Hi

i just wanted to say that you don't need those two threads too,
but you have to change your shell from the explorer to povray,
you can do that with utilitys, like shellselect ( don't ask me were i got
it, it was mentiond in this group some time ago ) or you can change it
manualy, i think in the system.ini.

When you do that only povray is running, nothing else ( you have no
start button and so on ), and if you wan't to use the explorer for file
browsing, or wan't to reboot without the go down in the ctrl-alt-del menu.
you can adjust the tools menu, and put an explorer and so there.

( And i am also not responsible for any damage occured thru my tip )


>===============  ONES that MUST stay running  (don't touch!)  ===========
>
>explorer
>systray
>
>===========================================================================

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personnally when i want to ensure my PC is giving POVray all it has, i run
the dos version, it really does make a difference.


Rick

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I've heard that so much that I just had to try it. So I installed
POV for
ms-dos and ran the "skyvase.pov" benchmark from booting into ms-dos.
Results : 203 seconds. I ran it twice more checking that all the options
were
there as recommended : same thing. Now, in Win98, with nothing else
running and the recommended options set it renders in 101-102 seconds
(not quite as consistent). The margin is very significant. So, what am I
doing wrong ?

        My machine is new, a Celeron 366A non-overclocked with 128 Meg RAM.
such a difference... I just can't explain it otherwise but that there was a
lot of swapping
through the HD ?

        JM




>personnally when i want to ensure my PC is giving POVray all it has, i run
>the dos version, it really does make a difference.
>
>
>Rick
>
>

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Guilty as charged.

I was the one with the link to shell select. I can dig it up and post it here,
or a link.

What happends is that:
The shell program (litestep, explorer, evwm, reveal) reads from the registry and
autostart menus, then launch theese programs.
If you use another program as shell, then it wiill not launch theese processes.
Therefore, it is adviceableto run POV as a shell if you want the total cpu
speed.

no, this won't cause much trouble. If you double click the background, you will
get the old "task-manager" launched. from this you can access the "run.." and
"shutdown" menus.

Here is the address to shell selector:
http://www.v-active.com/shellselect/
(15k download)



"Lars W." wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> i just wanted to say that you don't need those two threads too,
> but you have to change your shell from the explorer to povray,
> you can do that with utilitys, like shellselect ( don't ask me were i got
> it, it was mentiond in this group some time ago ) or you can change it
> manualy, i think in the system.ini.
> 
> When you do that only povray is running, nothing else ( you have no
> start button and so on ), and if you wan't to use the explorer for file
> browsing, or wan't to reboot without the go down in the ctrl-alt-del menu.
> you can adjust the tools menu, and put an explorer and so there.
> 
> ( And i am also not responsible for any damage occured thru my tip )
> 
> >===============  ONES that MUST stay running  (don't touch!)  ===========
> >
> >explorer
> >systray
> >
> >===========================================================================

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I did the same thing and got the same results, and came to the conclusion
that I needed to haul out my old memory management 'config.sys' thingies so
I could take advantage of the 128 MB of RAM.

Never did bother doing that though.


Jean Montambeault <jrm### [at] videotronca> wrote in message
news:37335509.0@news.povray.org...
>
>         I've heard that so much that I just had to try it. So I installed
> POV for
> ms-dos and ran the "skyvase.pov" benchmark from booting into ms-dos.
> Results : 203 seconds. I ran it twice more checking that all the options
> were
> there as recommended : same thing. Now, in Win98, with nothing else
> running and the recommended options set it renders in 101-102 seconds
> (not quite as consistent). The margin is very significant. So, what am I
> doing wrong ?
>
>         My machine is new, a Celeron 366A non-overclocked with 128 Meg
RAM.
> such a difference... I just can't explain it otherwise but that there was
a
> lot of swapping
> through the HD ?
>
>         JM
>
>
>

> >personnally when i want to ensure my PC is giving POVray all it has, i
run
> >the dos version, it really does make a difference.
> >
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >
>
>

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...and if you can get it, won't you tell me how-wow ?

           Well, since I ran the msdos version from inside Windoze :

 100 seconds flat. Pfff!

        JM


>I did the same thing and got the same results, and came to the conclusion
>that I needed to haul out my old memory management 'config.sys' thingies so
>I could take advantage of the 128 MB of RAM.
>
>Never did bother doing that though.
>
>
>Jean Montambeault <jrm### [at] videotronca> wrote in message
>news:37335509.0@news.povray.org...
>>
>>         I've heard that so much that I just had to try it. So I installed
>> POV for
>> ms-dos and ran the "skyvase.pov" benchmark from booting into ms-dos.
>> Results : 203 seconds. I ran it twice more checking that all the options

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Johnny Smith wrote:

> ===============  ONES that MUST stay running  (don't touch!)  ===========
> explorer
> systray

For the record I shut down systray frequently and suffer no loss of
operating ability. It's mostly just another controller for background
utilities that are not necessary for the system to run properly.


-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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"Rick (Kitty5)" <kit### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote:
: personnally when i want to ensure my PC is giving POVray all it has, i run
: the dos version, it really does make a difference.

  Not anymore with msvc 3.1e. See my speed comparison in this newsgroup or
povray.msdos.

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Jean Montambeault wrote in message <37335509.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>        I've heard that so much that I just had to try it. So I installed
>POV for
>ms-dos and ran the "skyvase.pov" benchmark from booting into ms-dos.
>Results : 203 seconds. I ran it twice more checking that all the options
>were
>there as recommended : same thing. Now, in Win98, with nothing else
>running and the recommended options set it renders in 101-102 seconds
>(not quite as consistent). The margin is very significant. So, what am I
>doing wrong ?


One possibility:  on my 400Mhz AMD K6, if I tell Windoze 98 to 'restart in
dos mode', for unknown reasons the computer runs so slowly, it feels like a
486/33!  The fix:  when turning on the computer, press F8 (I think) to start
up in true DOS.

Mark

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Johnny Smith wrote in message <373290F8.5955C954@telebot.net>...
>As proof of such,  close everything so that the taskbar is completely emtpy
and the only
>thing you see is the start button.  Now,  please do the three finger,
nothing left to
>lose,  windows puked again,  salute.  (Control-Alt-Delete)  There should
appear a box in
>the center of the screen.
>Look at what is listed in that box.  Each item that appears is a
thread/program of some
>sort.  These NEED to be closed/terminated.  If you think for one instant
that these
>background threads/programs are inconsequential,  Montey is going to inform
you that you
>JUST missed "computer trivia" for 500,  and that you just lost the double
jeopardy round.


Actually, most of these background processes ARE inconsequential, taking up
(on my computer) less than 1/10 of a percent of the processor time combined.
The exception?  Explorer, at 1% of processor time.

To find out how much processor time each program is using, download a
utility called WinTop.

Mark

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