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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 12:42:48
Message: <37287df8.0@news.povray.org>
Povray 2000

A Festival of Raytraced Images

These are some preliminary proposals for the festival - feel free to
comment, suggest and criticize

You can post your comments here for general discussion or send them to me
personally.

The Festival will be a one off and the site will remain open for I year?

The closing date for the submission of pictures for the festival will be
December 31st 1999 for display on the web site by the end of January.
Pictures may be submitted after September 1st 1999

So that navigation around the site will easier the festival will be divided
into many categories:

A Preliminary list:

Natural world
Landscape
Seascape
People/Portraits
Experimental
Scientific
Mathematical
Fractals
Architecture
Interiors
Still-life
Abstract
My Worst
My Best
Fun/Humour
Futuristic
Space
Ethnic

Please feel free to suggest others.

I'm going to suggest a novel way of organising the site. People submit A
320x240 image of their pic with a short text description and a link to their
web site where a bigger version of the pic can be found. This has the
advantage of reducing bandwidth on the site whilst giving people an
opportunity to see more of your work.
For those without sites a larger image can be submitted which we will host.

I need a banner for the site - Pov colours lots of rays, glass etc. Wording
Povray 2000 a festival of raytraced images, or whatever, suggestions? So
come on guys be creative have a go.

I also need a legal person to sort out copyright  anyone out there a lawyer?

Finally I need lots of people with FREE access and phone calls to the net to
upload the pics. Perhaps people could volunteer to take on a category.
Otherwise the cost to me would be prohibative.

Get raytracing, we need your pics - Mick


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 14:12:57
Message: <3728927A.CD856DC5@geocities.com>
I would just recommend not making the categories exclusive: into what category
should I place my image of  the Australian bushman & Scandanavian viking  who
meet together in space to fight the great Recursive Fractal Beast?

I would instead get a programmer to allow searches according to several indices
, such as:
 age / country / self-described skill level  of artist,
 genre of theme (sci/fi, Old West, childhood),
 style (photorealism of reality,  photorealism of cartoony folks)
 lines of POV code,
 AND MAYBE
 some sort of voting/rating system.


Mick Hazelgrove wrote:

> Povray 2000
>
> A Festival of Raytraced Images
>
> These are some preliminary proposals for the festival - feel free to
> comment, suggest and criticize
>
> You can post your comments here for general discussion or send them to me
> personally.
>
> The Festival will be a one off and the site will remain open for I year?
>
> The closing date for the submission of pictures for the festival will be
> December 31st 1999 for display on the web site by the end of January.
> Pictures may be submitted after September 1st 1999
>
> So that navigation around the site will easier the festival will be divided
> into many categories:
>
> A Preliminary list:
>
> Natural world
> Landscape
> Seascape
> People/Portraits
> Experimental
> Scientific
> Mathematical
> Fractals
> Architecture
> Interiors
> Still-life
> Abstract
> My Worst
> My Best
> Fun/Humour
> Futuristic
> Space
> Ethnic
>
> Please feel free to suggest others.
>
> I'm going to suggest a novel way of organising the site. People submit A
> 320x240 image of their pic with a short text description and a link to their
> web site where a bigger version of the pic can be found. This has the
> advantage of reducing bandwidth on the site whilst giving people an
> opportunity to see more of your work.
> For those without sites a larger image can be submitted which we will host.
>
> I need a banner for the site - Pov colours lots of rays, glass etc. Wording
> Povray 2000 a festival of raytraced images, or whatever, suggestions? So
> come on guys be creative have a go.
>
> I also need a legal person to sort out copyright  anyone out there a lawyer?
>
> Finally I need lots of people with FREE access and phone calls to the net to
> upload the pics. Perhaps people could volunteer to take on a category.
> Otherwise the cost to me would be prohibative.
>
> Get raytracing, we need your pics - Mick


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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 14:55:28
Message: <37289d10.0@news.povray.org>
Greg M. Johnson <gre### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
news:3728927A.CD856DC5@geocities.com...
> I would just recommend not making the categories exclusive: into what
category
> should I place my image of  the Australian bushman & Scandanavian viking
who
> meet together in space to fight the great Recursive Fractal Beast?

Simple we just add another category - Fantasy!!!


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From: Ph Gibone
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 14:55:33
Message: <37289d15.0@news.povray.org>
> AND MAYBE
> some sort of voting/rating system.


No, please don't make it a competition
Philippe


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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 15:22:26
Message: <3728a362.0@news.povray.org>
Mick Hazelgrove wrote in message <37287df8.0@news.povray.org>...
[snip]
>
>I'm going to suggest a novel way of organising the site. People submit A
>320x240 image of their pic with a short text description and a link to
their
>web site where a bigger version of the pic can be found.

I think this is a good idea. And it can easily be done in a totally
transparent way, where the visitor never knows that the image comes from
some other server. You'll need some volunteers (or some automated mechanism)
though, to look for broken links, in case people take down or move their
larger pic (and even if everybody has the best intention not to, over a
course of a year that *will* happen).

>Finally I need lots of people with FREE access and phone calls to the net
to
>upload the pics. Perhaps people could volunteer to take on a category.
>Otherwise the cost to me would be prohibative.


Mark me up for that and contact me once you need help with it.

Johannes.


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 16:55:20
Message: <3728A476.1DF6E6F3@panama.phoenix.net>
>The closing date for the submission of pictures for the festival will be
>December 31st 1999 for display on the web site by the end of January.
>Pictures may be submitted after September 1st 1999

Shouldn't 1 month be enough time to set things up? We could start submitting in
November, and get the site ready during December. We would have things
presentable in early January.

>Natural world
>Landscape
>Seascape

How about Nature? This would include all of the above.

>Please feel free to suggest others.

I think you missed Religion and Miscelaneous.

> I'm going to suggest a novel way of organising the site. People submit A
> 320x240 image of their pic with a short text description and a link to their
> web site where a bigger version of the pic can be found. This has the
> advantage of reducing bandwidth on the site whilst giving people an
> opportunity to see more of your work.

I take it you based this idea on the IRTC. I think that this is the best way to
subdivide the site. Chronologically (the month and year of the image's
creation), Alphabetically (the title of each image), by Artist (the last and
first name of the artist), and by Category (the aforementioned categories). I
don't think a separation by country is necessary, as in the site I take this
idea from: http://www.raph.com/3dartists/3dp.html

> I need a banner for the site - Pov colours lots of rays, glass etc. Wording
> Povray 2000 a festival of raytraced images, or whatever, suggestions? So
> come on guys be creative have a go.

Maybe the Title shoud be the common image (i.e. the one we make together).

> I also need a legal person to sort out copyright  anyone out there a lawyer?

Mr. Tyler has the uncanny ability to write like one. Ask him. (=

> Finally I need lots of people with FREE access and phone calls to the net to
> upload the pics. Perhaps people could volunteer to take on a category.

Obviously this isn't a one person job. I would like to help. Maybe I can turn on
my FTPDaemon at a specified time, or let people ICQ the files to me. I don't
have a free connection, but it is unlimited, as is my telephone, so there is no
problem here. I would upload during the night to the site.


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 21:08:45
Message: <3728F181.CF4068DF@ndirect.co.uk>
>  AND MAYBE
>  some sort of voting/rating system.

Not a competition please, just enjoying art.

Cheers
Steve




Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> 
> I would just recommend not making the categories exclusive: into what category
> should I place my image of  the Australian bushman & Scandanavian viking  who
> meet together in space to fight the great Recursive Fractal Beast?
> 
> I would instead get a programmer to allow searches according to several indices
> , such as:
>  age / country / self-described skill level  of artist,
>  genre of theme (sci/fi, Old West, childhood),
>  style (photorealism of reality,  photorealism of cartoony folks)
>  lines of POV code,
>  AND MAYBE
>  some sort of voting/rating system.
> 
> Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> 
> > Povray 2000
> >
> > A Festival of Raytraced Images
> >
> > These are some preliminary proposals for the festival - feel free to
> > comment, suggest and criticize
> >
> > You can post your comments here for general discussion or send them to me
> > personally.
> >
> > The Festival will be a one off and the site will remain open for I year?
> >
> > The closing date for the submission of pictures for the festival will be
> > December 31st 1999 for display on the web site by the end of January.
> > Pictures may be submitted after September 1st 1999
> >
> > So that navigation around the site will easier the festival will be divided
> > into many categories:
> >
> > A Preliminary list:
> >
> > Natural world
> > Landscape
> > Seascape
> > People/Portraits
> > Experimental
> > Scientific
> > Mathematical
> > Fractals
> > Architecture
> > Interiors
> > Still-life
> > Abstract
> > My Worst
> > My Best
> > Fun/Humour
> > Futuristic
> > Space
> > Ethnic
> >
> > Please feel free to suggest others.
> >
> > I'm going to suggest a novel way of organising the site. People submit A
> > 320x240 image of their pic with a short text description and a link to their
> > web site where a bigger version of the pic can be found. This has the
> > advantage of reducing bandwidth on the site whilst giving people an
> > opportunity to see more of your work.
> > For those without sites a larger image can be submitted which we will host.
> >
> > I need a banner for the site - Pov colours lots of rays, glass etc. Wording
> > Povray 2000 a festival of raytraced images, or whatever, suggestions? So
> > come on guys be creative have a go.
> >
> > I also need a legal person to sort out copyright  anyone out there a lawyer?
> >
> > Finally I need lots of people with FREE access and phone calls to the net to
> > upload the pics. Perhaps people could volunteer to take on a category.
> > Otherwise the cost to me would be prohibative.
> >
> > Get raytracing, we need your pics - Mick


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 21:44:10
Message: <3728FC15.EB679FEB@pacbell.net>
TonyB wrote:

> > I also need a legal person to sort out copyright  anyone out there a lawyer?
> 
> Mr. Tyler has the uncanny ability to write like one. Ask him. (=

  While it is true I am a silver tounged devil I defer to Johannes Hubert
as one who has direct personal experience in such matters and is a much
better and qualified candidate than I.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 29 Apr 1999 22:36:20
Message: <37290914.0@news.povray.org>
I think any set of categories where each entrant is forced to put theirs into one
category stinks. ['Scuse my html.]    If my bushman-viking-fractal monster battle
takes place in a grand, breathtaking cathedral, why can't I also be in the
Architecture category?   The arguments already starting below increase my confidence
that I'm right.

I like the idea of an index. Hopefully, there will be 2x-5x the number of entries in
the IRTC, and thus it may take me weeks to see them all.  One morning, I could tell
the index,  "Let's see the entries by the 10 oldest people," next day, "Let's look
at a handful which are photorealistic-cartoony in style and construction."  Next
day, "Let's see some by people in the Southern Hemisphere."  Then, "Let's see a few
Architecture and a few Fractal images." [Hopefully, my space battle scene could be
seen by either search!]     Then, "Let's look at some sPatch-derived art."

OKAY, drop the idea of a contest.  If my idea of multiple indices doesn't get
implemented, then I especially don't want the front page to be dominated by the
WINNERS, just like the IRTC, anyway.  I was hoping for some kind of rating system to
be one of about seven different indexing categories.   Hey instead, how about some
kind of "mailto:" feature where we can compliment the user/ ask for code?

TonyB wrote:

> >Natural world
> >Landscape
> >Seascape
>
> How about Nature? This would include all of the above.
>
> >Please feel free to suggest others.
>
> I think you missed Religion and Miscelaneous.
>
> I take it you based this idea on the IRTC. I think that this is the best way to
> subdivide the site. Chronologically (the month and year of the image's
> creation), Alphabetically (the title of each image), by Artist (the last and
> first name of the artist), and by Category (the aforementioned categories). I
> don't think a separation by country is necessary, as in the site I take this
> idea from: http://www.raph.com/3dartists/3dp.html
>


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Povray Festival
Date: 30 Apr 1999 08:26:39
Message: <37297EC4.635B15EA@panama.phoenix.net>
> I think any set of categories where each entrant is forced to put
> theirs into one   category stinks. ['Scuse my html.]    If my
> bushman-viking-fractal monster battle  takes place in a grand,
> breathtaking cathedral, why can't I also be in the Architecture
> category?   The arguments already starting below increase my
> confidence that I'm right.

I DID say that they should create a Miscelaneous category. You should be
happy with that. It should encompass all freaky works of art like yours.


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