Well, a couple of things... A, yes I got a copy from my student book
store, but Lance is also a student, and therefore a valid user of
academic editions.  Second, I am allowed to transfer the software one
time to another user... the only question is if NT belongs to the Visual
C++ license or has it's own.  I'll answer that from the EULA Section 4.2
which deals with using NT Workstation without a license.  This indicates
that NT is licensed separately.  Therefore a valid entity to transfer
the license from one end user to another as is also specified in the
EULA.  As long as I don't use it, or maintain any part of the NT system,
here, I can transfer it.  Thanks for your concern however.

Steve

Rudy Velthuis wrote:
> 
> Stephen Lavedas schrieb in Nachricht <36DC6043.D647B86A@virginia.edu>...
> >Hey Lance... I just bought a copy of Visual C++ 6.0 for school which
> >came with a copy of NT Workstation 4, if you want it, I'll send it to
> >you if you don't mind paying shipping.  Just a thought, I'm sure not
> >going to use it.
> 
> I'm afraid you're perhaps not allowed to sell the NT4 just like that. I'd
> recommend reading the MS license papers first. If you bought this for
> school, you might have a special license (if it was at a special price, you
> almost certainly have). If the license doesn't say anything against it,
> you're propably OK. Just be careful with selling parts of packages like
> these, you *could* get into (legal) trouble.
> 
> BTW this is not a flame, just serious advice.
> 
> --
> Rudy Velthuis

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I've only seen Quad PII Xeons in SGI systems (their new NT based
workstation).

It's about $11,300 Australian.  Oh, and that's without a monitor.  You can
get their new high-res LCD monitor (EXTREMELY COOL AND EXCELLENT COLOUR!!!)
for an extra $4,500 Australian.

It does come with composite in out too, which is a real bonus!  Plus, it
looks really cool!!!  :)

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Isn't it fine as long as all of the packaging and what not is with it. 
You can resell software, as long as you don't keep a copy.

Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> WOAH!!!  he he he, that was funny, did you see the reaction to that
> message???  WOW!!!  Like sodium and oxygen!  PHEW!
> 
> I guess NT would be nice (especially running MAX), but I do agree a little
> with what everyone has been saying, it's probably in some breech
> somewhere...
> 
> Thanks anyway :)
> 
> P.S.  I'll email you ;-)  he he he*
> 
> Lance.
> 
> *JUST A JOKE, NO NEED DOUST ME WITH PETROL!!!
> 
> ---
> For the latest 3D Studio MAX plug-ins, images and much more, go to:
> The Zone - http://come.to/the.zone

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"John M. Dlugosz" wrote:

> Lance Birch wrote in message <36db7991.0@news.povray.org>...
> >Mainly because NT is very expensive, and people like 9x's easy of use when
> >it comes to PnP and USB.  I personally would like to use NT, but I don't
> >have the money at the moment.
> >
> >Of course there are NT's benefits over 95/98 at the moment like
> >multi-processor support.  I'd definitely like to see SGI's new
> >workstation... it runs Windows NT and has 4 Intel Xeon processors!!!
> >
> >(he he he, a TAD out of my price range too ;-)
>
> Re price:  It's only about $100 more bought with a system.

Ahh, but that $100 is only for NT Workstation. Server is more, and according to
MS, if you access it from more than 10 computers (not even at the same time) you
need to buy NT Server.

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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:28:26 -0600, John M. Dlugosz <joh### [at] dlugoszcom> wrote:
>Re 4 Xeon:  That's my next machine!  I'm serious -- 12 to 18 months I want a
>quad PIII Xeon, I'm guessing 1200Mhz...  where did you see quad boards?

VA Research (www.varesearch.com) sells quad Xeons with Linux preinstalled.  
Their prices are for whole systems; a quad Xeon "compute server" is $13995.  
Pricewatch (www.pricewatch.com) only shows one entry for the query 
"motherboards quad" and it also looks like a whole system; it's $10545.
These are PII Xeons, of course.  I haven't seen just the boards available
anywhere.

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Nieminen Mika schrieb in Nachricht <36d69d1b.0@news.povray.org>...
>  I'm sure people must be tired of me whining about win95-only programs
>which I can't use and why don't they port them to other platforms too...
>  Well... It seems to end now. I just bought a new computer (PII 350MHz
64MB)
>and windows 98 (oh boy it was expensive! I mean win98).
>  So now, at last, I can use moray, spatch, etc etc...
>  Hopefully you will never hear me whining about win95-only programs
anymore.
>(But don't bet for that ;) )


I did (almost) the same: PII400, 128MB, 12.8GB HD, 16MB GC and Win98. Hope
I'll get some decent rendering times now!

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Mike <Ama### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>
> You'll find that NT users are really into Quake II, since that's one of
> the few cool games that'll run on it.

That's interesting -- it's one of the few Win95/98 games that'll run on
OS/2 Warp, too...



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Jeff Lee         shi### [at] gatenet         http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/

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Rudy Velthuis wrote in message <36df003f.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>
>I did (almost) the same: PII400, 128MB, 12.8GB HD, 16MB GC and Win98. Hope
>I'll get some decent rendering times now!
>


Hell, I jumped from 486DX120/16/300MB to Celeron416/64/10GB 2 months ago
(~14X speed increase in POV). The first 3 days I was a happy puppy. By now
I'm sick&tired of the slow-ass low-memory piece of crap (Yeah, I know, I've
been raytracing too long...)
It's sad, really. One never finds satisfaction. At least not for long <sigh>

Margus

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Cool.  For now I can drool...
Interesting that the one from varesearch uses EDO DRAM (16 sockets!) so I
=could= get one now without buying new memory...

Seriously, I'm waiting 'till NT5 is out and clean, and USB takes root, and
clock speeds go up more.

Ron Parker wrote in message <36de8b9f.0@news.povray.org>...
>On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:28:26 -0600, John M. Dlugosz <joh### [at] dlugoszcom>
wrote:
>>Re 4 Xeon:  That's my next machine!  I'm serious -- 12 to 18 months I want
a
>>quad PIII Xeon, I'm guessing 1200Mhz...  where did you see quad boards?
>
>VA Research (www.varesearch.com) sells quad Xeons with Linux preinstalled.
>Their prices are for whole systems; a quad Xeon "compute server" is $13995.
>Pricewatch (www.pricewatch.com) only shows one entry for the query
>"motherboards quad" and it also looks like a whole system; it's $10545.
>These are PII Xeons, of course.  I haven't seen just the boards available
>anywhere.

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Margus Ramst schrieb in Nachricht <36df199e.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>Hell, I jumped from 486DX120/16/300MB to Celeron416/64/10GB 2 months ago
>(~14X speed increase in POV). The first 3 days I was a happy puppy. By now
>I'm sick&tired of the slow-ass low-memory piece of crap (Yeah, I know, I've
>been raytracing too long...)
>It's sad, really. One never finds satisfaction. At least not for long
<sigh>


In my experience, if you go from a slower to a faster machine, you get used
to the increased speed very easily, and even find it still too slow after a
while. You really feel the difference, if you have to go back to a slower
machine. Then you'll learn to appreciate the new one. I think this counts
for any increaese in speed, size, wealth, etc. in life. You only feel the
difference if you have to go back.

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Rudy Velthuis

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