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Rudy Velthuis wrote:
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> That's why almost no-one from abroad can say
> "'s-Gravenhage" or "Scheveningen".
_I_ can. I once had a friend coming from
Scheveningen. It took me a while until I could
pronounce it, but nevertheless, now I do understand
a lot more dutch than I could before. Reading is
easy (I'm from Germany), but listening.....
Markus
--
Ich nicht eine Sekunde!!!" H. Heinol in Val Thorens
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Markus Becker wrote:
> _I_ can. I once had a friend coming from
> Scheveningen. It took me a while until I could
> pronounce it, but nevertheless, now I do understand
> a lot more dutch than I could before. Reading is
> easy (I'm from Germany), but listening.....
>
It's even easier if you come from northern Germany like me where they
still speak Plattdeutsch. There are so many similarities between
Plattdeutsch, Dutch, English and Danish.
If you can understand my Grandpa than Dutch is easy! :-)
Marc
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Marc Schimmler
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I will have, just have to do the trimming and further collection as time
goes by. And as time goes by there is apparently more and more trimming
in need. I wasn't going to keep the language barrier conversations
though, only the name/place comments. Should I keep all of the talk?
Meaning every reply content of all the "Where..." original?
I'm debating this inwardly right now.
Ken wrote:
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> Johannes Hubert wrote:
> >
> > Mike wrote in message <36D14120.B6A43BBE@aol.com>...
> > >Does anyone have the Cliff's notes for this thread?
> >
> > What are "Cliff's notes" ?
> >
> > Johannes.
>
> I believe it refers to a digested form of, with explanations but containig
> only the relevant facts, contains no extraneous material, a study aid.
>
> A compiled list of who, what, where.
>
> See: http://www.cliffs.com/
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
--
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Marc Schimmler schrieb in Nachricht
<36D2B59F.663D3C6B@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>...
>It's even easier if you come from northern Germany like me where they
>still speak Plattdeutsch. There are so many similarities between
>Plattdeutsch, Dutch, English and Danish.
>
>If you can understand my Grandpa than Dutch is easy! :-)
True. My mother is from the east of the Netherlands (Twente, Enschede). When
we were in Denmark (I was 10 years old) the first time, she had big problems
reading what the words meant, until she found out, she only had to pronounce
them and then think it was her dialect. Then her problems were far less.
And the northen German Plattdeutsch is really similar to Dutch dialects
Gronings or Twents. I have no problems understanding Plattdeutsch.
--
Rudy Velthuis
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Markus Becker schrieb in Nachricht <36D2B430.65D4E979@zess.uni-siegen.de>...
>>
>> That's why almost no-one from abroad can say
>> "'s-Gravenhage" or "Scheveningen".
>
>_I_ can. I once had a friend coming from
>Scheveningen.
You're really one of very few then.
--
Rudy
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It's a bunch of pulications by a company (presumably owned by a guy
named Cliff)that American students read when they don't feel like
reading the text books.
Kind of a joke that occured to me when I clicked the little + icon next
to "Where are you" and Netscape barfed.
-Mike
Ken wrote:
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> Johannes Hubert wrote:
> >
> > Mike wrote in message <36D14120.B6A43BBE@aol.com>...
> > >Does anyone have the Cliff's notes for this thread?
> >
> > What are "Cliff's notes" ?
> >
> > Johannes.
>
> I believe it refers to a digested form of, with explanations but containig
> only the relevant facts, contains no extraneous material, a study aid.
>
> A compiled list of who, what, where.
>
> See: http://www.cliffs.com/
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Rudy Velthuis wrote:
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> You're really one of very few then.
Yes, because I'm one of the few that have been quite
regularly to holland when they where younger....
(is it really _that_ few germans that can?)
Markus
--
Ich nicht eine Sekunde!!!" H. Heinol in Val Thorens
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Markus Becker schrieb in Nachricht <36D3D44F.5FDE0AA7@zess.uni-siegen.de>...
>Rudy Velthuis wrote:
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>> You're really one of very few then.
>
>Yes, because I'm one of the few that have been quite
>regularly to holland when they where younger....
>(is it really _that_ few germans that can?)
>
Ask around. Ask people to pronounce it, after you told them how to pronounce
it. Most of them will have a hard time. So most never bother to learn, as
many Dutch understand German anyway (esp. in Scheveningen or Zandvoort).
--
Rudy
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Mike wrote:
>
> It's a bunch of pulications by a company (presumably owned by a guy
> named Cliff)that American students read when they don't feel like
> reading the text books.
Yeah ! That's what I said. I think.
> Kind of a joke that occured to me when I clicked the little + icon next
> to "Where are you" and Netscape barfed.
Netscape has a discriminating palette.
> -Mike
>
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > Johannes Hubert wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike wrote in message <36D14120.B6A43BBE@aol.com>...
> > > >Does anyone have the Cliff's notes for this thread?
> > >
> > > What are "Cliff's notes" ?
> > >
> > > Johannes.
> >
> > I believe it refers to a digested form of, with explanations but containig
> > only the relevant facts, contains no extraneous material, a study aid.
> >
> > A compiled list of who, what, where.
> >
> > See: http://www.cliffs.com/
> >
> > --
> > Ken Tyler
> >
> > mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
--
Ken Tyler
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Ken wrote:
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> Johannes Hubert wrote:
> >
> > Mike wrote in message <36D14120.B6A43BBE@aol.com>...
> > >Does anyone have the Cliff's notes for this thread?
> >
> > What are "Cliff's notes" ?
> >
> > Johannes.
>
> I believe it refers to a digested form of, with explanations but containig
> only the relevant facts, contains no extraneous material, a study aid.
>
> A compiled list of who, what, where.
>
> See: http://www.cliffs.com/
Damn, "Fahrenheit 451" comes to my mind: add pace, cut novels shorter,
then leave only reviews of them, then ban books, as nobody reads them
anyway and they make people unhappy; let people watch soap operas from
TV. Bradbury was quite prophet in his novel. And Cliff sells even this
book!
Anyway, I'm thankful for those people, who solved my free time problem
by breaking to my apartment and taking TV, while I was taking powder in
Alps. Now I have much more time to read books and learn foreign
languages (and raytrace some pics).
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