nomail@nomail wrote:
> 
> maybe [Gilles Tran is] already sitting on an image he's worked on for
> months intending to upload it to the "contest" at the last minute...
> 

Whining in one thing, but these accusations are rediculous. A quick look 
at Gilles' website and the number of images produced per year clearly 
shows that there are almost no images "he's worked on for (more than 
two) months". In 2000 (the year 'Wet Bird' was produced), Gilles posted 
16 completed images, most of which are detailed, time-consuming full 
scenes, in addition to several radiosity experiments (also time-consuming).

  -Shay

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> Tran may not be competing, on the other hand, maybe he's already sitting
on
> an image he's worked on for months intending to upload it to the "contest"
> at the last minute...

Actually, I won't enter the competition for the very reason that I've known
(as a TAG member) about the competition well before it was officially
announced. This would be unfair to the other competitors and there would be
a potential conflict of interest. I don't rule out making a nice pic for the
fun of it - if I can find the time - but it wouldn't be competing.

G.

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- Posters

There are a lot of great prizes and I'm looking forward
to seeing a wide range of excellent entries. It's exciting
and I'm sure the sour note sounded by Nick represents
a minority of one.

I for one hope Gilles does enter and blows us away with
another one of his "Wow!" images; his work convinced
me (and many others I'm sure) to try POV-Ray.

I expect this competition will produce more than one
"Wow!" entry.

"Gilles Tran" <gitran_nospam_@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> news:web.41163e95d0ed11ec569e9b810@news.povray.org...
>
> > Tran may not be competing, on the other hand, maybe he's already sitting
> on
> > an image he's worked on for months intending to upload it to the "contest"
> > at the last minute...
>
> Actually, I won't enter the competition for the very reason that I've known
> (as a TAG member) about the competition well before it was officially
> announced. This would be unfair to the other competitors and there would be
> a potential conflict of interest. I don't rule out making a nice pic for the
> fun of it - if I can find the time - but it wouldn't be competing.

And as much as I, too, would like to have the chance to win a $10,000 super
computer, I am also bowing out of the competition to avoid the conflict of
interest claims.

However, if the winner would like to donate it to me after the competition is over,
I certainly would not refuse the offer. <wink> <wink>

> Hmm, I must admit that this thought crossed my mind too.  If Gilles is going
> to be competing, perhaps an explanation from the organizers of why this
> contest is not simply a "Gilles Tran Acclamation" is in order.

Woah hold on there! I was just making a joke about how good Gilles is!

As for your bizarre accusations, all I can say is that Gilles is one of the best
pov artists, and probably the most prolific. Obviously everywhere you see the
best pov pictures there will be a lot of his, simply because he makes more
pictures than other artists. Besides which, if you read the rules, you might
notice that the judges don't see who the author is for each image.

I think it's a shame he won't be entering since I'd love to see what he'd
produce for this contest.

-- 
Tek
www.evilsuperbrain.com

Well that is dissapointing to hear from both of you.  Perhaps you two could
enter an exhibition entry and compete for an honorable mention?

Skip

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> Well that is dissapointing to hear from both of you.  Perhaps you two
could
> enter an exhibition entry and compete for an honorable mention?

Competition itself is out of the question, but making "out of competition"
entries, as in movies festivals, is a good idea to me (after all, it's all
about making good POV-Ray images). It's pretty much undecided yet, but I'll
keep this in mind.

G.


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- Graphic experiments
- POV-Ray and Poser computer images
- Posters

> to be competing, perhaps an explanation from the organizers of why this
> contest is not simply a "Gilles Tran Acclamation" is in order.  I notice

Both section 3(b)(i) and (ii) of the rules and paragraph 3 of the 'terms
and conditions of registration' make it quite clear that he will not be.

  http://www.povcomp.com/rules/
  http://www.povcomp.com/rules/agreement/

I'm surprised that anyone even brought this matter up given how clearly it
is stated.

-- Chris

"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
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> > Hmm, I must admit that this thought crossed my mind too.  If Gilles is
going
> > to be competing, perhaps an explanation from the organizers of why this
> > contest is not simply a "Gilles Tran Acclamation" is in order.
>
> Woah hold on there! I was just making a joke about how good Gilles is!

I assumed as much, but text posts cause difficulty when trying to ascertain
the humor of the poster.

> As for your bizarre accusations, all I can say is that Gilles is one of
the best
> pov artists, and probably the most prolific. Obviously everywhere you see
the
> best pov pictures there will be a lot of his, simply because he makes more
> pictures than other artists. Besides which, if you read the rules, you
might
> notice that the judges don't see who the author is for each image.
>
> I think it's a shame he won't be entering since I'd love to see what he'd
> produce for this contest.
>

Agreed.

I really think that I'm going to enter.  I don't know if my image will
showcase all of the features of POV-Ray, but I have some ideas that I've
wanted to do for a long time.  I'm still trying to decide which one to do.
Additionally, my ideas are fairly general, so I'll have to get more
specific, and actually add a "soul" to whatever I create, rather than simply
having a pointless image of something mundane.  In other words, create art.

Worst case, I spend a lot of time creating a scene that I've wanted to
create for a long time anyway.  :-)

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

"Gilles Tran" <gitran_nospam_@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> news:4116fc9b$1@news.povray.org...
> > Well that is dissapointing to hear from both of you.  Perhaps you two
> could
> > enter an exhibition entry and compete for an honorable mention?
>
> Competition itself is out of the question, but making "out of competition"
> entries, as in movies festivals, is a good idea to me (after all, it's all
> about making good POV-Ray images). It's pretty much undecided yet, but
I'll
> keep this in mind.
>
> G.
>

please do, if you have the time :)