>I always RTFM (heck, I even print it) and I check before posting... and you
>are right: it is in there. Sorry... I know this must be pretty annoying for
>you... The whole pov doc is quite big, I can't remenber everything. By the
>way, why hasn't the win-gui help a find option? This could eliminate some of
>my kind of posts.

That's a good point. We may add a button for it. Otherwise, press 'index' then
choose the find tab (that's standard WinHelp 4 behaviour).

>On the whole, pov is fantastic. I use it everyday, and I enjoy it - very
>much. I only wanted to help you make it even better. I never wanted to hurt
>you, and I am really sorry if I did.

Not hurt. Just exhausted.

As for the bug, if I can find some other users who report the same problem I'll
look into it. As it is this is the first time (in the two years since POVWIN
was first released) that I can recall of ever hearing of a problem of this
nature (closing other apps windows).

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>...that I can recall of ever hearing of a problem of this
>nature (closing other apps windows).

hwnd = FindWindow("POV-Ray for Windows", NULL);
SendMessage(hwnd, WM_CLOSE, 0, 0);



Friedemann Schmidt
F.S### [at] fhtw-berlinde
Raytracing-Gallery: http://www.rz.fhtw-berlin.de/~s0049669/

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F.S### [at] fhtw-berlinde (Friedemann Schmidt) wrote:

>>...that I can recall of ever hearing of a problem of this
>>nature (closing other apps windows).
>
>hwnd = FindWindow("POV-Ray for Windows", NULL);
>SendMessage(hwnd, WM_CLOSE, 0, 0);

Yes, of course I'm aware of this method. But you have to do it deliberately. 
So I state again: I've never heard of a problem (with POVWIN) of this nature
(closing other apps windows).

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This might not be the answer but.......

I'v had a similar problem with another memory/cpu intensive piece of
software. I pulled out the ram chips and swapped them with another
machine. Problem fixed.

-- 
regards

Nathan O'Brien
no1### [at] no13net
http://www.no13.net


Philippe Debar wrote:
> 
> PPOVwin does strange things to other running applications when
> finishing/starting a rendering. This is specially visible and annoying when
> rendering an animation with many quick-traced frames.
> 
> Observed problems :
> + povwin steals or gives focus at each frame ;
> + povwin closes (not minimises or hides, but closes) other windows or
> applications (observed very often with winhelp, even other applications
> helps ; win explorer windows ; acdsee32 and display properties)
> + povwin prevents screensaver to start or interrupts screensaver (apparently
> randomly).
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>    POV INFO
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> POV-Ray for Windows
> Version 3.1.beta.6b.watcom.win32 [Pentium II optimised]
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>    SYSTEM INFO
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> MS Windows 95 4.00.950 B
> IE 4.0 4.711712.6
> Pentium Pro 233MHz
> 128MB RAM

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I don't know about your system, but mine wakes the computer (or prevents
power-saving mode) if there's HDD activity. If I render something regular,
the saver is not activated at all. If I do a
100000-glass-spheres-with-media-and-radiosity-aa0.0 scene and it takes more
than 15 min pre line, the saver activates and deactivates. My advice is,
turn off your monitor for overnight renders.

Peter

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Nathan O'Brien wrote in message <361349AC.1EFD788C@no13.net>...
>This might not be the answer but.......
>
>I'v had a similar problem with another memory/cpu intensive piece of
>software. I pulled out the ram chips and swapped them with another
>machine. Problem fixed.
>
>--
>regards
>
>Nathan O'Brien


Hey - I added 64MB - so maybe this is it (although I don't understand how).
Thanks... I'll try swapping my ram at the first occasion.


Philippe

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Hi!
Peter Popov wrote in message <36144c04.0@news.povray.org>...
>I don't know about your system, but mine wakes the computer (or prevents
>power-saving mode) if there's HDD activity. If I render something regular,
>the saver is not activated at all. If I do a
>100000-glass-spheres-with-media-and-radiosity-aa0.0 scene and it takes more
>than 15 min pre line, the saver activates and deactivates. My advice is,
>turn off your monitor for overnight renders.
>
>Peter


Of course, I always shut my monitor off for long renders (the computer is in
my sleeping room, and when the screen wakes up in the middle of the night, I
do also). I don't know if it is HDD activity that does it. The screensaver
does kick in when I use scan disk and messes the process. Also, it isn't
systematic : sometimes the screensaver works, sometimes it doesn't, and
sometimes it starts and wakes up for apparently no reasons... No doubt, I am
using windows 95 :-)

It isn't serious. It is barely annoying (well, it is when I am in a bad
mood). I just wanted to add this with the other weird behaviours of my
computer, as I thought it could be tied.

(I'd like to see that 100000-glass-spheres-with-media-and-radiosity-aa0.0
scene one day)

Povingly,


Philippe

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Philippe Debar wrote:
> 
> PPOVwin does strange things to other running applications when
> finishing/starting a rendering. This is specially visible and annoying when
> rendering an animation with many quick-traced frames.
> 
> Observed problems :
> + povwin steals or gives focus at each frame ;
> + povwin closes (not minimises or hides, but closes) other windows or
> applications (observed very often with winhelp, even other applications
> helps ; win explorer windows ; acdsee32 and display properties)
> + povwin prevents screensaver to start or interrupts screensaver (apparently
> randomly).


I haven't seen these things... but I have seen, since installing 3.1r1 and
not before, that font assignments to other processes become corrupted.  It
appears I need to restart W95 to restore things.

This is NOT a bug report, but rather an informal report of observed behavior
which might provide evidence of some sort of unsocial behavior by POV.  I 
also run Netscape 4.06, which is also relatively new, so it could also
be implicated in this problem.

Dan
-- 
http://www.flash.net/~djconnel/

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> It appears I need to restart W95 to restore things.

Correction : I appear to have been able to resolve things
this time by killing POV and restarting it.  But again,
Netscape could potentially be implicated.  I leave this
observation as an invitation for those with similar experiences;
it is not of the confidence level of a real bug report, as
I have already noted.

Dan

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Dan Connelly wrote:
> 
> > It appears I need to restart W95 to restore things.
> 
> Correction : I appear to have been able to resolve things
> this time by killing POV and restarting it.  But again,
> Netscape could potentially be implicated.  I leave this
> observation as an invitation for those with similar experiences;
> it is not of the confidence level of a real bug report, as
> I have already noted.
> 
> Dan

I might be totally off here, but, having no problems as described here I did
have some erratic font-behaviour in Netscape while running applications that use
openGL. Perhaps that might have something to do with it. Apart from that I
believe there are some things that are also not real bugs, just, let's call them
'unexpected occurences' that seem to be related to the editor, more then to POV
itself. The reload-dialogs are an example of this.

Regards,

Remco

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