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From: hughes, b 
Subject: Got it to compile too. Thanks Vahur K.
Date: 29 Oct 2002 23:06:17
Message: <3dbf5ab9$1@news.povray.org>
After some effort of course, trying to figure out what was meant by all the
talk of htmlhelp.lib and winmm.obj.
I had gotten a htmlhelp.lib from out of a zip of the HTML Help documentation
at  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?releaseid=33071
And I also did what Tony tried for using the winmm.lib, which was to copy it
from BCC55\LIB\PSDK and rename it with that obj extension. I wasn't
successful no matter how I tried, don't know if that's because of Windows XP
here or my lack of know-how.

If I had simply commented out those two lines in pvengine.c Vahur told of in
a reply to ABX I'd probably have saved myself the trouble. To be exact, I
mean this:

//#pragma comment(lib, "htmlhelp")
//#pragma comment(lib, "winmm")


// suggested to use instead by ABX:
//#ifndef __BORLANDC__
//  #pragma comment(lib, "htmlhelp")
//  #pragma comment(lib, "winmm")
//#endif

I'm not clear about that identifier __BORLANDC__. Is that supposed to work
as-is? Or is that just a placeholder for the real name needed there. Guess I
could try it to find out...

This is the very first time I ever successfully compiled a program of any
kind. Having had looked over doing so for other programs in the past I never
knew I could actually do it until now. Only way this worked okay is due to
you, Vahur Krouverk, and I am grateful. Maybe I'll be able to continue to do
more later on.

P.S.  program code is crazy stuff, like POV script times 100, I'll need a IQ
boost to deal with it.
--
Farewell,
Bob


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Got it to compile too. Thanks Vahur K.
Date: 30 Oct 2002 05:00:21
Message: <ufavrukrvjia21r1uervjkmrhp5f31mnnt@4ax.com>
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:06:12 -0600, "hughes, b." <omn### [at] charternet>
wrote:
> I'm not clear about that identifier __BORLANDC__. Is that supposed to work
> as-is? Or is that just a placeholder for the real name needed there. Guess I
> could try it to find out...

It is supposed to work as is. Read pages on http://predef.sourceforge.net/

In case you are interested in internals of free borland you can download help
files from ftp://ftp.borland.com/pub/bcppbuilder/techpubs/bcb5/ .
Basic informations can be found in b5std.zip file. Be carefull to not
overwrite help from free borland becouse it is newest.

ABX


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From: Vahur Krouverk
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 makefile for Inprise (Borland) free command-linetools
Date: 30 Oct 2002 13:15:01
Message: <3DC021B7.1050405@starman.ee>
ABX wrote:
> Vahur, since you are only brave to play with free borland compilation process,
> would you like to try prepare compilation of povcmax2.dll and cmedit.dll using
> notes written in $(POV35winsrc)\windows\readme.txt ? Is it mission imposible
> with free borland ?

I don't know, whether it is impossible or not. If I have time, then I'll 
give it a try. But why? Do you really want to hack editor?


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 makefile for Inprise (Borland) free command-linetools
Date: 30 Oct 2002 13:30:57
Message: <3u80su4d4j6j2piv3a85e93n3p15o2rhse@4ax.com>
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:15:19 +0200, Vahur Krouverk <vkr### [at] starmanee>
wrote:
> I don't know, whether it is impossible or not. If I have time, then I'll 
> give it a try. But why? Do you really want to hack editor?

Yes. I had to use not nice hack to achive effect described in
http://news.povray.org/povray.unofficial.patches/28351/ . IMO it should be
done in editor code rather than in POV-Ray port.

ABX


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From: Vahur Krouverk
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 makefile for Inprise (Borland) free command-linetools
Date: 30 Oct 2002 14:40:37
Message: <3DC035C4.7060705@starman.ee>
ABX wrote:
> Yes. I had to use not nice hack to achive effect described in
> http://news.povray.org/povray.unofficial.patches/28351/ . IMO it should be
> done in editor code rather than in POV-Ray port.
> 
Hmm, XML editor? Why not to use XML Notepad? 
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnxml/html/xmlpadfaq.asp>

:-)


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 makefile for Inprise (Borland) free command-linetools
Date: 30 Oct 2002 14:59:26
Message: <71e0suo6ertaets3eils02rgdmk23qt0jq@4ax.com>
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:40:52 +0200, Vahur Krouverk <vkr### [at] starmanee>
wrote:
> Hmm, XML editor? Why not to use XML Notepad? 
>
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnxml/html/xmlpadfaq.asp>

It was easier for me to create patch with ready autocompletion and highliging
of docbook keywords than learning all this stuff
(http://www.dpawson.co.uk/docbook/docbookref.pdf). Note I have bought old,
cheap, used machine to work on POV patching and documentation. It is Pentium
75 MHz. Does XML Notepad works on it?

ABX


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From: Vahur Krouverk
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 makefile for Inprise (Borland) free command-linetools
Date: 30 Oct 2002 15:53:56
Message: <3DC046F7.1010903@starman.ee>
ABX wrote:
 > Note I have bought
 > old, cheap, used machine to work on POV patching and documentation.
 > It is Pentium 75 MHz. Does XML Notepad works on it?
I guess so (although my response was more in region of joke).
But MHz and processor type has nothing to do with coding productivity: I 
wrote POVMan on 66 MHz 486 DX2 with 32 MB of memory and RedHat 6.1. Now 
(since April 2001) I have 1GHz AMD Athlon with 256 MB of memory and 
Windows 2000 Professional  + RH 7.1 and hasn't yet released any new 
version of POVMan. Commitment and availability of free time are more 
important factors....


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From: hughes, b 
Subject: Re: Got it to compile too. Thanks Vahur K.
Date: 30 Oct 2002 21:54:17
Message: <3dc09b59$1@news.povray.org>
"ABX" <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote in message
news:ufavrukrvjia21r1uervjkmrhp5f31mnnt@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:06:12 -0600, "hughes, b." <omn### [at] charternet>
> wrote:
> > I'm not clear about that identifier __BORLANDC__. Is that supposed to
work
> > as-is? Or is that just a placeholder for the real name needed there.
Guess I
> > could try it to find out...
>
> It is supposed to work as is. Read pages on http://predef.sourceforge.net/

Oh, okay, thanks for letting me know. I had retried it but used the wrong
type bitmap splash screen, 24-bit not 8-bit, so once again I had commented
out your conditional lines thinking that was the problem. Haven't done it
over again (yet), maybe I'll get there eventually.

> In case you are interested in internals of free borland you can download
help
> files from ftp://ftp.borland.com/pub/bcppbuilder/techpubs/bcb5/ .
> Basic informations can be found in b5std.zip file. Be carefull to not
> overwrite help from free borland becouse it is newest.

Couldn't say yet if I'll ever be able to figure out this crazy C++ coding
stuff but at least I'm finally looking into it, so thanks also for those
sources of info... whatever it's all about.   :-)


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