Hi,
hope, this is not the wrong newsgroup!!
I'm starting to work with hamapatch, but i can't figure out how to
select points. Yes, i have read the manual, and yes, there is a
selection tool in the patch tab. But.. it doesn't work ;-((. I'm using
version 2.1.

can someone help me?


best wishes,

Robert

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:14:14 +0200, Robert =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther?= 
wrote...
> Hi,
> hope, this is not the wrong newsgroup!!
> I'm starting to work with hamapatch, but i can't figure out how to
> select points. Yes, i have read the manual, and yes, there is a
> selection tool in the patch tab. But.. it doesn't work ;-((. I'm using
> version 2.1.
> 
> can someone help me?

Select the tool on the objeccts tab that looks like a dashed box, and 
drag a box around the points you want to select.

Or you can single click with the four pointed arrow tool (translate) to 
select single points IIRC.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.

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Hi Jamie,
thanks for answering, but what you call the dashed box, was what i meant
with the selection tool. It doesn't work!
I only can deselect points that were selected before. Ok, a work around is
to select all points with the select tab in the menu bar and then deselect
the desired points and then inverse them with the selection tab in the menu
bar.

But that can't be the idea of the dashed box??

(what is the meaning of IIRC?)

best wishes,

Robert


>
> Select the tool on the objeccts tab that looks like a dashed box, and
> drag a box around the points you want to select.
>
> Or you can single click with the four pointed arrow tool (translate) to
> select single points IIRC.
>
> Bye for now,
>      Jamie.

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>Hi Jamie,
>thanks for answering, but what you call the dashed box, was what i meant
>with the selection tool. It doesn't work!
>I only can deselect points that were selected before. Ok, a work around is
>to select all points with the select tab in the menu bar and then deselect
>the desired points and then inverse them with the selection tab in the menu
>bar.
>
Hi Robert,

 I have been using Hamapatch V2.1 quite a lot recently and the selection tool works
fine for
me.
The selection tool is the cross with four arrow heads, NOT the dashed box, which is
for
multiple selection in a rectangular area. This and the "lasso" tool work much the same
as
their equivalents in PSP.

To select single points;
1) selected the Patch tab
2) select the first button, (a cross with four arrow heads)
3) select each point individually with the left mouse button.
(I switch off the axes button for most operations)

The use of the Control button in combination with the mouse click is very important. 
By holding down Control whilst clicking you can add or remove points from your
selection.
If you already have more than one point selected then you MUST hold down Control
whilst
clicking the left mouse button to select or deselect. 

BTW, IIRC=if I remember correctly.

Hope this helps.

David
----------------------
dav### [at] hamiltonitecom
http://hamiltonite.com/

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Hi David,
the hint with the control button was the break through!!!
Many thanks! That's what i wanted.
Nevertheless, how does the rectanguler box and the lasso work? (don't know PSP). When
i do a
selection with them, nothing happens...

Many thanks again,

Robert

> Hi Robert,
>
>  I have been using Hamapatch V2.1 quite a lot recently and the selection tool works
fine for
> me.
> The selection tool is the cross with four arrow heads, NOT the dashed box, which is
for
> multiple selection in a rectangular area. This and the "lasso" tool work much the
same as
> their equivalents in PSP.
>
> To select single points;
> 1) selected the Patch tab
> 2) select the first button, (a cross with four arrow heads)
> 3) select each point individually with the left mouse button.
> (I switch off the axes button for most operations)
>
> The use of the Control button in combination with the mouse click is very important.
> By holding down Control whilst clicking you can add or remove points from your
selection.
> If you already have more than one point selected then you MUST hold down Control
whilst
> clicking the left mouse button to select or deselect.
>
> BTW, IIRC=if I remember correctly.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> David
> ----------------------
> dav### [at] hamiltonitecom
> http://hamiltonite.com/

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>How does the rectanguler box and the lasso work? (don't know PSP). When i do a
>selection with them, nothing happens...
>
Robert, 

The rectangular box and the lasso are used to select multiple points.

The rectangle button works by placing the cursor somewhere near where you want to
start the
selection, then press and HOLD the left mouse button whilst you drag the cursor over
the
rectangular area you are interested in. Releasing the mouse button selects all the
points
contained within the rectangle.

The lasso button is used to draw an irregular area around points you wish to select. 
This
works by again pressing and holding the left mouse button whilst dragging the cursor
around
the points you want to select.  This results in a white trace of the cursor.  When you
release
the mouse button all the points enclosed within the area of the white trace will be
selected.

The clue to both is to drag the cursor whilst holding down the left mouse button.

The use of inverse is also very useful here as you can select the points you DON'T
want and
then use inverse to get all those you want.

David
----------------------
dav### [at] hamiltonitecom
http://hamiltonite.com/

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Hi David,
so far it was clear to me that i have to hold down the left mouse button whilst
dragging the
mouse. But, what should i say? Am I too stupid? When i do the mentioned things,
nothing happens.
The encircled points remain red (no selection occured). The other way round
(everything is
selected) to deselect points work...

Robert

David Wilkinson schrieb:


>
> >How does the rectanguler box and the lasso work? (don't know PSP). When i do a
> >selection with them, nothing happens...
> >
> Robert,
>
> The rectangular box and the lasso are used to select multiple points.
>
> The rectangle button works by placing the cursor somewhere near where you want to
start the
> selection, then press and HOLD the left mouse button whilst you drag the cursor over
the
> rectangular area you are interested in. Releasing the mouse button selects all the
points
> contained within the rectangle.
>
> The lasso button is used to draw an irregular area around points you wish to select.
 This
> works by again pressing and holding the left mouse button whilst dragging the cursor
around
> the points you want to select.  This results in a white trace of the cursor.  When
you release
> the mouse button all the points enclosed within the area of the white trace will be
selected.
>
> The clue to both is to drag the cursor whilst holding down the left mouse button.
>
> The use of inverse is also very useful here as you can select the points you DON'T
want and
> then use inverse to get all those you want.
>
> David
> ----------------------
> dav### [at] hamiltonitecom
> http://hamiltonite.com/

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>so far it was clear to me that i have to hold down the left mouse button whilst
dragging the
>mouse. But, what should i say? Am I too stupid? When i do the mentioned things,
nothing happens.
>The encircled points remain red (no selection occured). The other way round
(everything is
>selected) to deselect points work...
>
Hi Robert,

I have tried to reproduce what is happening to you, but cannot.  My system selects the
points
just as I have described.  It also works the other way round (as yours does) and
deselects
points already selected.  It may be something you are doing wrong, but I can't see
what it is.
It may just be that there has been a glitch with your system and it will be OK after
you have
rebooted.  If this fails to sort things out, you could try re-loading Hamapatch

BTW, in my configuration Hamapatch is not entirely stable.  Sometimes it just exits
when I am
selecting a point, so I make sure I save everything frequently.

I will be interested to hear if you manage to sort out your selection problems.

David
----------------------
dav### [at] hamiltonitecom
http://hamiltonite.com/

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I've just remembered something.  You are pressing [enter] to clear your 
previous selection before trying to make another selection, aren't you?

Bye for now,
     Jamie.

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Jamie Davison schrieb:

> I've just remembered something.  You are pressing [enter] to clear your
> previous selection before trying to make another selection, aren't you?
>
> Bye for now,
>      Jamie.

Yes, i did. But you dont have to, if you want to select some more points to
the already selected.
BTW, now it works! I downloaded hamapatch again (not so simple, due to
crosswind.net) and now everything is allright ;-) Strange...

best wishes,

Robert

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