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From: Chris R
Subject: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 24 Feb 2024 23:35:00
Message: <web.65dac2f8cc5275fe239175245cc1b6e@news.povray.org>
This is a WIP that I'm calling "Reservations...".

Only moderate anti-aliasing and no radiosity or photons enabled yet; still an 11
hour render, which isn't bad given there are a lot of light sources in the
scene.

The napkins need a lot of work yet; they look like pipe insulation rather than
cloth right now.  A few more scene elements are yet to be added and the
silverware models need to be cleaned up.

-- Chris R


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From: tTh
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 25 Feb 2024 03:13:46
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On 2/25/24 05:32, Chris R wrote:

> The napkins need a lot of work yet; they look like pipe insulation rather than
> cloth right now.  A few more scene elements are yet to be added and the
> silverware models need to be cleaned up.
> 

I don't think I'd like to eat with forks with such thin handles.


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From: 19100
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 25 Feb 2024 12:45:00
Message: <web.65db7b705ee5eae07a99ed35edfc8715@news.povray.org>
"Chris R" <car### [at] comcastnet> wrote:
> This is a WIP that I'm calling "Reservations...".
>
> Only moderate anti-aliasing and no radiosity or photons enabled yet; still an 11
> hour render, which isn't bad given there are a lot of light sources in the
> scene.
>
> The napkins need a lot of work yet; they look like pipe insulation rather than
> cloth right now.  A few more scene elements are yet to be added and the
> silverware models need to be cleaned up.
>
> -- Chris R

Wow that's coming along great, the bricks look fantastic!


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 26 Feb 2024 02:18:39
Message: <65dc3b4f$1@news.povray.org>
Op 25/02/2024 om 05:32 schreef Chris R:
> This is a WIP that I'm calling "Reservations...".
> 
Somebody got away in a hurry.... :-)

I am not sure about the brick walls in such a setting. I am afraid it 
might generate claustrophobia, and for interiors I prefer light walls.

I agree about the forks, and I would add the glasses: How do you drink 
from such narrow openings?

The napkin holders strongly remind me of the one I owned when I was 
young; It was silver, though. Otherwise, almost identical.

Well done indeed. I am curious to see follow-up versions of the scene.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Jörg "Yadgar" Bleimann
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 26 Feb 2024 07:33:07
Message: <65dc8503@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 26.02.24 08:18, Thomas de Groot wrote:

> I agree about the forks, and I would add the glasses: How do you drink 
> from such narrow openings?

They remind me of a Star Trek episode I've watched as a kid some 45 
years ago... since then, I always imagined ultra-slim high glasses 
filled with strikingly colourful synthetic drinks as the epitome of 
futuristic table culture!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

Now playing: No Lights in my Eyes (Mike Batt)

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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 26 Feb 2024 09:28:08
Message: <65dc9ff8@news.povray.org>
Le 2024-02-26 à 02:18, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> Op 25/02/2024 om 05:32 schreef Chris R:
>> This is a WIP that I'm calling "Reservations...".
>>
> Somebody got away in a hurry.... :-)
> 
> I am not sure about the brick walls in such a setting. I am afraid it 
> might generate claustrophobia, and for interiors I prefer light walls.
> 
> I agree about the forks, and I would add the glasses: How do you drink 
> from such narrow openings?
> 
> The napkin holders strongly remind me of the one I owned when I was 
> young; It was silver, though. Otherwise, almost identical.
> 
> Well done indeed. I am curious to see follow-up versions of the scene.
> 
Looking again, and the spoons and knives have that same tiny, almost 
unusable, handle.

Those glasses... When you use them, the rim stay under your nose, 
preventing you from getting the aroma of the wine, making it rather 
bland. Drinking from them is not the real problem. The real problem is 
ENJOYING your drink.


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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 26 Feb 2024 09:32:19
Message: <65dca0f3$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2024-02-26 à 02:18, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> Op 25/02/2024 om 05:32 schreef Chris R:
>> This is a WIP that I'm calling "Reservations...".
>>
> Somebody got away in a hurry.... :-)
> 
> I am not sure about the brick walls in such a setting. I am afraid it 
> might generate claustrophobia, and for interiors I prefer light walls.
> 
I went in a few places with exposed brick walls. Even worked in a 
restaurant that had all brick walls like here. Those don't generate 
claustrophobia unless you are already claustrophobic, and then, only in 
the smaller rooms.


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From: Chris R
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 26 Feb 2024 11:05:00
Message: <web.65dcb57c5ee5eae0239175245cc1b6e@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Op 25/02/2024 om 05:32 schreef Chris R:
> > This is a WIP that I'm calling "Reservations...".
> >
> Somebody got away in a hurry.... :-)
If you look really closely at the standing glass, there is a ring in it.  The
intention of the scene is that the guest showed up, saw the ring and walked
away.  The host finished their champagne and left in disgust.  Probably should
have taken the ring back, but who's thinking clearly at that point?  :-)

>
> I am not sure about the brick walls in such a setting. I am afraid it
> might generate claustrophobia, and for interiors I prefer light walls.

I've noticed many of the newer restaurants I have gone to lately are more
dark-themed.  The kitchier ones have plaster that lets the brick show through in
various places, but I wanted to focus on the actual bricks in this scene.  They
also tend to have very high ceilings which help with claustrophobia.  Mine are
15 feet, but you can't see that in this view.

>
> I agree about the forks, and I would add the glasses: How do you drink
> from such narrow openings?

The silverware is definitely a work in progress.  All of the handles (except the
knife) use the same model, just with different lengths.  They were rough
approximations of something I found on a restaurant supply website, but I admit
they could be made heftier.

The glasses are champagne flutes, which are typically very narrow; if you sniff
champagne you just get bubbles up your nose.  However, I will verify that I
didn't confuse diameter and radius in my dimensions...

>
> The napkin holders strongly remind me of the one I owned when I was
> young; It was silver, though. Otherwise, almost identical.

I may add some sort of textured embossing on the napkin rings too.
>
> Well done indeed. I am curious to see follow-up versions of the scene.
>

I will get at it fixing the modeling.  No one commented on the dripping
condensation on the ice bucket, which is my favorite part, so I need to remove
the distractions...

> --
> Thomas

-- Chris R


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 27 Feb 2024 02:21:22
Message: <65dd8d72$1@news.povray.org>
Op 26/02/2024 om 15:32 schreef Alain Martel:
> Le 2024-02-26 à 02:18, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
>> Op 25/02/2024 om 05:32 schreef Chris R:
>>> This is a WIP that I'm calling "Reservations...".
>>>
>> Somebody got away in a hurry.... :-)
>>
>> I am not sure about the brick walls in such a setting. I am afraid it 
>> might generate claustrophobia, and for interiors I prefer light walls.
>>
> I went in a few places with exposed brick walls. Even worked in a 
> restaurant that had all brick walls like here. Those don't generate 
> claustrophobia unless you are already claustrophobic, and then, only in 
> the smaller rooms.
> 
I don't know. In the sixties/seventies, it was a fashion to have one 
wall in your living room showing the crude bricks, like here, instead of 
wall paper or paint. It had a nice effect indeed, but mostly because of 
the contrast with the other walls. An all-brick living room was never 
considered and would - imho - be terribly distracting if not depressing. 
And it would make the living room dark and 'cold'.

[Note: I am neither claustrophobic nor depressed ;-) ]

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Interior Brick Scene WIP
Date: 27 Feb 2024 02:31:09
Message: <65dd8fbd$1@news.povray.org>
Op 26/02/2024 om 16:59 schreef Chris R:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Op 25/02/2024 om 05:32 schreef Chris R:
>>> This is a WIP that I'm calling "Reservations...".
>>>
>> Somebody got away in a hurry.... :-)
> If you look really closely at the standing glass, there is a ring in it.  The
> intention of the scene is that the guest showed up, saw the ring and walked
> away.  The host finished their champagne and left in disgust.  Probably should
> have taken the ring back, but who's thinking clearly at that point?  :-)
> 
Even knowing now there is a ring in that glass, I have real trouble to 
see it. Too many reflections/refractions?

>>
>> I am not sure about the brick walls in such a setting. I am afraid it
>> might generate claustrophobia, and for interiors I prefer light walls.
> 
> I've noticed many of the newer restaurants I have gone to lately are more
> dark-themed.  The kitchier ones have plaster that lets the brick show through in
> various places, but I wanted to focus on the actual bricks in this scene.  They
> also tend to have very high ceilings which help with claustrophobia.  Mine are
> 15 feet, but you can't see that in this view.
> 
15 feet? Ok.

>>
>> I agree about the forks, and I would add the glasses: How do you drink
>> from such narrow openings?
> 
> The silverware is definitely a work in progress.  All of the handles (except the
> knife) use the same model, just with different lengths.  They were rough
> approximations of something I found on a restaurant supply website, but I admit
> they could be made heftier.
> 
> The glasses are champagne flutes, which are typically very narrow; if you sniff
> champagne you just get bubbles up your nose.  However, I will verify that I
> didn't confuse diameter and radius in my dimensions...
> 
These look a bit /too/ narrow to me, but I have not drunk champagne for 
more than a lifetime I am afraid ;-)

>>
>> The napkin holders strongly remind me of the one I owned when I was
>> young; It was silver, though. Otherwise, almost identical.
> 
> I may add some sort of textured embossing on the napkin rings too.
>>
>> Well done indeed. I am curious to see follow-up versions of the scene.
>>
> 
> I will get at it fixing the modeling.  No one commented on the dripping
> condensation on the ice bucket, which is my favorite part, so I need to remove
> the distractions...
> 
Hmm... again, I am not really /aware/ of the dripping condensation...

>> --
>> Thomas
> 
> -- Chris R
> 
> 

-- 
Thomas


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