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I once tried to suggest to our German government, to implement a Fat
tax: depending on percentage of bad fat in a food, the producer or
deliverer (restaurant) would have to pay a fat-percentage-dependant tax.
Of course, restaurants and supermarkets would forward that fat tax to
the consumer. the effect would be, so I hope, that unhealthy food
becomes more expensive and less attractive, and the money taken by this
tax should be used to support health insurances to finance cures for
fat-sick persons.
But the politicians answered, such a fat tax would be unfair to the few
slim persons who need to eat more fat in order to look normal...
That was maybe around 2005 when I proposed that.
On 04.03.2016 10:36, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degroot org> wrote:
>> On 4-3-2016 9:03, clipka wrote:
>>> You Dutch have an advantage there: The stuff you folks put your butter
>>> onto isn't real bread anyway :P
>>>
>>
>> Do we have that in common then with the US (see above)? ;-)
>
> We're the fattest white-majority country in the world. (Some Pacific islands
> (which import food from the USA), Caribbean islands (which used to supply sugar
> to the USA), and Arab countries (which import money from the USA) have us beat
> out.) This is why we've had to take steps:
>
> First, we cut out fat. (We've only gotten fatter since.)
>
> Then we cut out the sugar. (Net result is fat people calling Michelle Obama
> transgender.)
>
> Now everyone's blaming gluten, so wheat's gotta go. (Anyone taking bets?)
>
>
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On 4-3-2016 14:38, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Those are some really good looking cards. I spent a lot of time last year
> trying to make some decent looking whist cards, and they're not half as good as
> those.
>
Just image_maps uv_mapped on a mesh. No big deal :-)
--
Thomas
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Am 05.03.2016 um 06:07 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
> Maybe there is cottage cheese on it..?
>
> I would make it as a difference, and add plenty random-sized spheres as
> differences to that area where the bread is cut. But true - there are
> several good ways to make a healthy bread. i will follow this thread. :-)
I suspect crackle pattern would be the best basis; it'll need some
elaborate warping though, to change the shape of the holes near the crust.
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Am 05.03.2016 um 06:16 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
> I once tried to suggest to our German government, to implement a Fat
> tax:
...
> But the politicians answered, such a fat tax would be unfair to the few
> slim persons who need to eat more fat in order to look normal...
And rightly so.
I personally know someone who has been struggling all his life to /gain/
weight, despite a surprisingly sugar-rich diet. I'm sure there are
people out there who are in the same situation despite a fat-rich diet.
Also, it would address a non-issue anyway. In general, we're far, far
away from American obesity -- and the portion of our population who
/are/ outright obese wouldn't be impressed by a fat tax /at all/.
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Am 05.03.2016 um 06:12 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
> Ho ho ho ho ho! That is the foundation of a new war!
No, the war is pretty old ;)
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On 4-3-2016 19:01, clipka wrote:
>> Now everyone's blaming gluten, so wheat's gotta go. (Anyone taking bets?)
>
> You're gonna fart more frequently? :P
>
It is crazy. Because about 0.6 percent of population has a gluten
problem, everybody needs to stop eating it?
Nowadays, eating is not about... eating (and enjoying it btw) it is
about ingesting certain chemical compounds and avoiding others, if one
believes the /vox populi/.
--
Thomas
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Am 05.03.2016 um 10:07 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> On 4-3-2016 19:01, clipka wrote:
>>> Now everyone's blaming gluten, so wheat's gotta go. (Anyone taking
>>> bets?)
>>
>> You're gonna fart more frequently? :P
>>
>
> It is crazy. Because about 0.6 percent of population has a gluten
> problem, everybody needs to stop eating it?
It could be worse.
Because a fraction of the population had a hypothyreosis problem (*),
everybody needed to /start/ eating iodine a few decades ago.
Now we have portions of the population who have a _hyperthyreosis_
problem, and they _cannot stop_ eating iodine because there's no
low-iodine food available anymore.
But there's always more money to be made in selling augmented stuff
(provided you can get the propaganda rolling) than there is in selling
the conventional, so we all need to eat iodine.
(*The incidence of hyperthyreosis and its link to lack of iodine
happened to have been discovered shortly after the Chernobyl nuclear
catastrophe proved less catastrophic to Europe than feared, and the
medical industry was left with an excess production of iodine
supplements. But I guess the timing was just a coincidence...)
Same with gluten-free food: It's augmented, so there's more money to be
made with it than with conventional food, so we all need to eat it.
> Nowadays, eating is not about... eating (and enjoying it btw) it is
> about ingesting certain chemical compounds and avoiding others, if one
> believes the /vox populi/.
/vox propagandi/ would be more to the point.
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> I would make it as a difference, and add plenty random-sized spheres as
> differences to that area where the bread is cut. But true - there are
> several good ways to make a healthy bread. i will follow this thread. :-)
The problem with difference is then how do you manage to texture it ?
Thanks for following :-)
> Are you going to add a glass or bowl with honey beside it, another with
> butter?
There will be other elements in the scene, but no butter, no honey. You'll see
that in this forum, if I succeed in completing it !!
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I thought of crackle pattern too and tried it but wasn't satisfied with the
result. But it may be that I haven't used it in a suitable manner.
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 05.03.2016 um 06:07 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
> > Maybe there is cottage cheese on it..?
> >
> > I would make it as a difference, and add plenty random-sized spheres as
> > differences to that area where the bread is cut. But true - there are
> > several good ways to make a healthy bread. i will follow this thread. :-)
>
> I suspect crackle pattern would be the best basis; it'll need some
> elaborate warping though, to change the shape of the holes near the crust.
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On 5-3-2016 10:52, clipka wrote:
> Am 05.03.2016 um 10:07 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> On 4-3-2016 19:01, clipka wrote:
>>>> Now everyone's blaming gluten, so wheat's gotta go. (Anyone taking
>>>> bets?)
>>>
>>> You're gonna fart more frequently? :P
>>>
>>
>> It is crazy. Because about 0.6 percent of population has a gluten
>> problem, everybody needs to stop eating it?
>
> It could be worse.
>
> Because a fraction of the population had a hypothyreosis problem (*),
> everybody needed to /start/ eating iodine a few decades ago.
>
[...]
Yes, there is that too.
>
>
> Same with gluten-free food: It's augmented, so there's more money to be
> made with it than with conventional food, so we all need to eat it.
Absolutely.
>
>
>> Nowadays, eating is not about... eating (and enjoying it btw) it is
>> about ingesting certain chemical compounds and avoiding others, if one
>> believes the /vox populi/.
>
> /vox propagandi/ would be more to the point.
>
It is a clever mixture of both I guess and who starts what is often
difficult to reconstruct. Mostly /propagandi/ probably.
--
Thomas
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