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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 20 Dec 2014 14:47:57
Message: <5495d26d$1@news.povray.org>
On 20/12/2014 17:22, Doctor John wrote:
> On 20/12/14 09:58, Stephen wrote:
>>
>> FYI blue-blooded means royal or of royal descent.
>>
>
> Bend your knee when addressing Us. We are of Royal descent - albeit
> Hungarian royal blood.
>
> We said: BOW, peasants :-D
>

It sounds more like bow wow.
Ye scurvy dog.

> King John
>

Ah! named after the English king who was so despised that there has 
never been a king named after him. It figures ^^

You probably know that my surname is generally translated as son of the 
golden haired man or son of a wanderer. But because of the way that 
Irish names were anglicised (phonetically) it could be a variant of 
Macbeth, son of breath meaning life force. Or son of a prince.
I will bow to no man nor call any man sir.

I have a gauntlet and you have a face. When shall the two meet? ;-)


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 20 Dec 2014 15:48:27
Message: <5495e09b@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:23:41 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 19/12/2014 16:30, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> That often can help, but not always.  I know in one instance, those who
>> robbed the place broke in while they were off camping, and they took
>> *everything*  - computers, software, etc.  Alarm system on the building
>> was useless.
>>
>>
> That can happen anywhere.

Sure.  But you or I would be likely to report it to the police.  Where 
she lives, reporting it to the police is not likely to help, because 
there's apparently a good reason the police were involved in the theft (I 
don't remember the details, but she's lived with it for long enough to 
know what she can and can't expect from her local law enforcement).

>>> >Remembering the gun laws, I made my excuses and left. No offence
>>> >intended but I felt out of my depth and thought it the better part of
>>> >valour, to be somewhere else:-)
>> Oh, sure, the gun laws here in the US are*nuts*, and there are a lot of
>> truly crazy people here who manage to build arsenals that go far beyond
>> personal safety.
>>
>>
> Or hunting. How can you say that you need a machine gun to hunt. Unless
> you are hunting mince or ground meat.

I still like Robin Williams' (I think it was) suggestion that we should 
give Bambi some serious firepower to even out the odds.

>> I was in Arizona about 15 years ago for the first time, and one of my
>> coworkers (who lived there) said "if someone cuts you off on the road,
>> just let it go - don't flip them off, don't lay into your horn -
>> because you never know who's going to be armed and decide to shoot you
>> for doing even that much."
>>
> Is that not the reason given by the pro gun lobby?
> The black hats won't know which white hat is carrying.

It's one of several excuses, yeah.

>> Yet if you try to get any kind of even sensible dialog going about gun
>> control, you get people saying incredibly stupid things like "if you
>> take guns away, only criminals will have guns, because you can't stop
>> the flow of guns"
> 
> Easy peasy, shoot everyone who is carrying a gun. By definition they are
> criminals. And since guns are designed to kill not incapacitate I am
> sure that they won't mind having done to them what they intend to do to
> others.

Ah, but you can't shoot everyone who's carrying a gun without carrying a 
gun. ;)

>> or even worse "someone who's determined will find a way.
> 
> Well that is true but it takes away the unpremeditated aspect.

Yep, agreed.

>> They'll use a knife if they have to."
>>
>>
> Then they will need to get up close and personal. So it is not so
> attractive a proposition.

Also agreed.

>> Yeah, but how often is a knife-wielding lunatic going to take out a
>> classroom of 45 students + teacher?  Answer:  Not bloody likely.
> 
> Unless they are wearing a bandoleer of throwing knifes. ;-)

I don't know anyone who can throw as many knives as fast as even a non-
automatic weapon, much less a semi- or fully automatic weapon.

> The one thing that I have not heard, is about teaching children how to
> shoot. Gun safety is one thing you should learn if you have to have a
> gun. But no one mentions adolescents with hormone surges. I know that
> during that phase young people are not the most rational creatures in
> the world. Yet some are given guns and rifles before they are tall
> enough to see over them.

I do agree with that.  I grew up with a friend whose dad served in 
Vietnam, and he (with parents' permission, naturally) taught a number of 
my friend's friends how to shoot, and about gun safety.  He was an 
awesome instructor.

I don't have a gun, but I know how to use a number of different varieties 
because of him.

The closest I get to guns these days, though, is playing Borderlands. ;)

Jim
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 20 Dec 2014 17:36:11
Message: <5495f9db@news.povray.org>
On 20/12/14 19:47, Stephen wrote:
> I have a gauntlet and you have a face. When shall the two meet? ;-)
> 
Probably when you deign to put your hand in your pocket and buy me a
right royal measure of the water of life.

BTW if I see you gathering winter fuel this year, I shall set the
stag-hounds on you.

King John
-- 
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 20 Dec 2014 17:58:36
Message: <5495ff1c$1@news.povray.org>
On 20/12/2014 22:37, Doctor John wrote:
> On 20/12/14 19:47, Stephen wrote:
>> I have a gauntlet and you have a face. When shall the two meet? ;-)
>>
> Probably when you deign to put your hand in your pocket and buy me a
> right royal measure of the water of life.
>

IIRC I bought the last round for thee, thy wench and taught thy 
offspring the secret of spinning a silver piece.
Thou owest me.

> BTW if I see you gathering winter fuel this year, I shall set the
> stag-hounds on you.
>

And I shall return them as meek as lap dogs.


> King John
>
I have always said that the French had the right idea, in the late 18th 
century.

Off with his head! So much for Buckingham.*

http://tinyurl.com/l92oleb

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 21 Dec 2014 03:10:45
Message: <54968085$1@news.povray.org>
On 20-12-2014 23:58, Stephen wrote:
> On 20/12/2014 22:37, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 20/12/14 19:47, Stephen wrote:
>>> I have a gauntlet and you have a face. When shall the two meet? ;-)
>>>
>> Probably when you deign to put your hand in your pocket and buy me a
>> right royal measure of the water of life.
>>
>
> IIRC I bought the last round for thee, thy wench and taught thy
> offspring the secret of spinning a silver piece.
> Thou owest me.
>
>> BTW if I see you gathering winter fuel this year, I shall set the
>> stag-hounds on you.
>>
>
> And I shall return them as meek as lap dogs.
>
>
>> King John
>>
> I have always said that the French had the right idea, in the late 18th
> century.
>
> Off with his head! So much for Buckingham.*
>
> http://tinyurl.com/l92oleb
>

[sings while brandishing a pitchfork]

Ah, çà ira, çà ira, çà ira!
Les aristocrates à la lanterne!
Ah, çà ira, çà ira, çà ira!
Les aristocrates on les pendra!

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 21 Dec 2014 03:32:13
Message: <5496858d$1@news.povray.org>
On 21/12/2014 08:10, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> [sings while brandishing a pitchfork]
>
> Ah, çà ira, çà ira, çà ira!

Bring out the tumbrel.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 22 Dec 2014 03:24:00
Message: <5497d520@news.povray.org>
On 20/12/2014 20:48, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Or hunting. How can you say that you need a machine gun to hunt. Unless
>> >you are hunting mince or ground meat.
> I still like Robin Williams' (I think it was) suggestion that we should
> give Bambi some serious firepower to even out the odds.
>

A truly, American solution. :-P


>> >Is that not the reason given by the pro gun lobby?
>> >The black hats won't know which white hat is carrying.
> It's one of several excuses, yeah.
>

LOL You sound rightly P'd off with that one.


>> >
>> >Easy peasy, shoot everyone who is carrying a gun. By definition they are
>> >criminals. And since guns are designed to kill not incapacitate I am
>> >sure that they won't mind having done to them what they intend to do to
>> >others.
> Ah, but you can't shoot everyone who's carrying a gun without carrying a
> gun.;)
>

Use automatic gun detectors in all public places.




>> >Unless they are wearing a bandoleer of throwing knifes.;-)
> I don't know anyone who can throw as many knives as fast as even a non-
> automatic weapon, much less a semi- or fully automatic weapon.
>

I have been straining my mind to remember the comic charterer, who could 
have done that.


>
> I don't have a gun, but I know how to use a number of different varieties
> because of him.
>
> The closest I get to guns these days, though, is playing Borderlands.;)

The way to go. :-)

The last time I fired a gun was at a rifle club's open day about 45 
years ago. I am left eyed dominant and right handed so no use at that.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 22 Dec 2014 13:49:13
Message: <549867a9$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:23:58 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 20/12/2014 20:48, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> Or hunting. How can you say that you need a machine gun to hunt.
>>> Unless
>>> >you are hunting mince or ground meat.
>> I still like Robin Williams' (I think it was) suggestion that we should
>> give Bambi some serious firepower to even out the odds.
>>
>>
> A truly, American solution. :-P

But of course.  Every red-blooded American knows that the way you put a 
fire out is by adding more gasoline.  ;)

>>> >Is that not the reason given by the pro gun lobby?
>>> >The black hats won't know which white hat is carrying.
>> It's one of several excuses, yeah.
>>
>>
> LOL You sound rightly P'd off with that one.

You think? ;)

>>> >Easy peasy, shoot everyone who is carrying a gun. By definition they
>>> >are criminals. And since guns are designed to kill not incapacitate I
>>> >am sure that they won't mind having done to them what they intend to
>>> >do to others.
>> Ah, but you can't shoot everyone who's carrying a gun without carrying
>> a gun.;)
>>
>>
> Use automatic gun detectors in all public places.

Automatic gun detectors with their own firepower?  Have you not seen 
Terminator? ;)

>>> >Unless they are wearing a bandoleer of throwing knifes.;-)
>> I don't know anyone who can throw as many knives as fast as even a non-
>> automatic weapon, much less a semi- or fully automatic weapon.
>>
>>
> I have been straining my mind to remember the comic charterer, who could
> have done that.

The Knifekateer.  (A common character in the comic strip "Basic 
Instructions" - http://basicinstructions.net/)

Then again, the superheroes in that comic, when they appear, aren't that 
"super", so it seems that the Knifekateer wouldn't be able to manage 
it. ;)

>> I don't have a gun, but I know how to use a number of different
>> varieties because of him.
>>
>> The closest I get to guns these days, though, is playing Borderlands.;)
> 
> The way to go. :-)
> 
> The last time I fired a gun was at a rifle club's open day about 45
> years ago. I am left eyed dominant and right handed so no use at that.

I've got pretty good aim, or used to - though the second time skeet 
shooting, I didn't do so well.  It helps to hold the shotgun tight in 
your *shoulder*, not your upper arm.  Doing the latter will give you a 
very sore arm, and you won't be able to hit *anything* you intend to.

Jim
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 22 Dec 2014 15:37:16
Message: <549880fc@news.povray.org>
On 22/12/14 18:49, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
> I've got pretty good aim, or used to - though the second time skeet 
> shooting, I didn't do so well.  It helps to hold the shotgun tight in 
> your *shoulder*, not your upper arm.  Doing the latter will give you a 
> very sore arm, and you won't be able to hit *anything* you intend to.
> 

You should try firing an old .303 Lee-Enfield. Do it wrong and you are
in a world of pain >< . Also, don't hold your breath. Just s-q-u-e-e-z-e

Not boasting but I'm still a good shot.

John
-- 
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 22 Dec 2014 18:15:27
Message: <5498a60f$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:38:06 +0000, Doctor John wrote:

> On 22/12/14 18:49, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> 
>> I've got pretty good aim, or used to - though the second time skeet
>> shooting, I didn't do so well.  It helps to hold the shotgun tight in
>> your *shoulder*, not your upper arm.  Doing the latter will give you a
>> very sore arm, and you won't be able to hit *anything* you intend to.
>> 
>> 
> You should try firing an old .303 Lee-Enfield. Do it wrong and you are
> in a world of pain >< . Also, don't hold your breath. Just s-q-u-e-e-z-e

I'd believe it.  And yeah, breathing is important. :)

> Not boasting but I'm still a good shot.

:)

Jim
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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