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From: Hj Malthaner
Subject: Re: Mining operations in a new future world
Date: 1 Jan 2021 15:49:20
Message: <5fef8ad0@news.povray.org>
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On 5/9/19 10:22 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
> I had the idea to make a scene of a spaceship, landed on some alien
> planet, with machinery around performing mining operations.
It's been a while. I felt stuck with the scene, worked on other things,
but recently came back and tried to improve it. Many small steps, much
trial and error, but I think this is good enough to be called the final
version now.
https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/art/Azurite-Surface-Mining-864445059
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https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/gallery/42758766/3D
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Op 01/01/2021 om 21:49 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
> On 5/9/19 10:22 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
>> I had the idea to make a scene of a spaceship, landed on some alien
>> planet, with machinery around performing mining operations.
>
> It's been a while. I felt stuck with the scene, worked on other things,
> but recently came back and tried to improve it. Many small steps, much
> trial and error, but I think this is good enough to be called the final
> version now.
>
> https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/art/Azurite-Surface-Mining-864445059
>
Yes, a nice one indeed. If I may give a comment: what I miss is a
suggestion of atmosphere. There is the exhaust of the mother ship and
there is a zeppelin, but the planet seems strangely bare of air. To
remain simple, a bit of ground fog would already help a lot; if you feel
ready for the challenge, a (thin) media would be great. It would give
that atmospheric haze with dimmer horizons which would also give depth
to the landscape.
Happy New Year!
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Thomas
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On 1/2/21 8:30 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Op 01/01/2021 om 21:49 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
>> On 5/9/19 10:22 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
>>> I had the idea to make a scene of a spaceship, landed on some alien
>>> planet, with machinery around performing mining operations.
>>
>> Many small
>> steps, much trial and error, but I think this is good enough to be
>> called the final version now.
>>
>> https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/art/Azurite-Surface-Mining-864445059
>>
>
> Yes, a nice one indeed. If I may give a comment: what I miss is a
> suggestion of atmosphere. There is the exhaust of the mother ship and
> there is a zeppelin, but the planet seems strangely bare of air. To
> remain simple, a bit of ground fog would already help a lot; if you feel
> ready for the challenge, a (thin) media would be great. It would give
> that atmospheric haze with dimmer horizons which would also give depth
> to the landscape.
>
> Happy New Year!
Thanks and happy new year as well!
I had been using the fog feature in the early versions, but it seemed to
cause troubles with radiosity and light coming from the sky sphere, so I
removed it. But you are right, a media should work fine. So far the time
for tracing the scene is moderate, I could try and see how it works. The
planet isn't supposed to have a lot of atmosphere but some dust and haze
surely would help to give an impression of depth.
The zeppelin was kinda artistic freedom, wouldn't work well in a thin
atmosphere I think. But NASA actually suggested evacuated zeppelins for
Mars exploration.
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From: Hj Malthaner
Subject: Re: Mining operations in a new future world
Date: 2 Jan 2021 13:59:47
Message: <5ff0c2a3@news.povray.org>
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On 7/18/19 4:06 PM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> The ship designs show similarities to those 1960s spaceships from the
> Perry Rhodan universe.
Perry Rhoday was likely my first contact with science fiction and very
certainly defined my views on how science fiction should be. So, even
that I didn't intend any references in this scene, it seems the
influence is still there :)
> But indeed, off-world mining is indeed a very interesting topic. For
> some time to come, mining equipment will still look similar to the one
> you depicted in your artwork, and what we have today.
That's good to hear that I didn't stretch imagination too much here.
> I believe, the fusion
> technology can be used for energy production, but with changed
> parameters also for creation of resources.
Since we were talking about the Perry Rhodan universe already, I can
confirm that fusion was used there as a means to produce all heavier
elements from hydrogen and helium. Not one of the cheap or easy means,
but some of the techno-crazy installations had such converters.
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From: Hj Malthaner
Subject: Re: Mining operations in a new future world
Date: 2 Jan 2021 15:52:45
Message: <5ff0dd1d@news.povray.org>
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On 1/2/21 8:30 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Yes, a nice one indeed. If I may give a comment: what I miss is a
> suggestion of atmosphere. There is the exhaust of the mother ship and
> there is a zeppelin, but the planet seems strangely bare of air. To
> remain simple, a bit of ground fog would already help a lot; if you feel
> ready for the challenge, a (thin) media would be great. It would give
> that atmospheric haze with dimmer horizons which would also give depth
> to the landscape.
That was a good suggestion, thank you! As mentioned, fog didn't work so
well, but a spherical media did. I've only added a very little haze, but
it seems to improve the balance of the scene a lot. Render times
doubled, but I can live with that. Thanks again!
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Some of my PovRay works:
https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/gallery/42758766/3D
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On 5/13/19 6:23 PM, Leroy wrote:
> "Hj. Malthaner" <han### [at] nospamgmxde> wrote:
>> I had the idea to make a scene of a spaceship, landed on some alien
>> planet, with machinery around performing mining operations.
> Great work.
Thanks!
> The only question I have can you animate this scene?
In theory yes. It'll be very complicated to deduce all motions from a
single clock value by formulas. The game breaker are most likely the
render times. So actually, no.
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Le 2021-01-02 à 15:52, Hj. Malthaner a écrit :
> On 1/2/21 8:30 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> Yes, a nice one indeed. If I may give a comment: what I miss is a
>> suggestion of atmosphere. There is the exhaust of the mother ship and
>> there is a zeppelin, but the planet seems strangely bare of air. To
>> remain simple, a bit of ground fog would already help a lot; if you
>> feel ready for the challenge, a (thin) media would be great. It would
>> give that atmospheric haze with dimmer horizons which would also give
>> depth to the landscape.
>
> That was a good suggestion, thank you! As mentioned, fog didn't work so
> well, but a spherical media did. I've only added a very little haze, but
> it seems to improve the balance of the scene a lot. Render times
> doubled, but I can live with that. Thanks again!
>
Yes, better.
That dust cloud around the digger's wheel is a nice touch. It show that
work is underway.
Alain
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Hj. Malthaner wrote on 02/01/2021 21:52:
> On 1/2/21 8:30 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> Yes, a nice one indeed. If I may give a comment: what I miss is a
>> suggestion of atmosphere. There is the exhaust of the mother ship and
>> there is a zeppelin, but the planet seems strangely bare of air. To
>> remain simple, a bit of ground fog would already help a lot; if you
>> feel ready for the challenge, a (thin) media would be great. It would
>> give that atmospheric haze with dimmer horizons which would also give
>> depth to the landscape.
>
> That was a good suggestion, thank you! As mentioned, fog didn't work so
> well, but a spherical media did. I've only added a very little haze, but
> it seems to improve the balance of the scene a lot. Render times
> doubled, but I can live with that. Thanks again!
>
A nice scene even in the night version.
Paolo
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