Am 05.12.2016 um 13:43 schrieb David Buck:

>> So the fact that I get the same broken picture regardless of the +BMn
>> setting means that the implementations of the different bounding
>> hierarchies have been adapted to the new interface consistently; and
>> that the render engine does indeed consistently use the new common
>> interface... just not /correctly/ ;)
> 
> See - you're making progress :-).  It's sometimes hard to imagine that
> the transition from "inconsistent" to "consistent" sometimes passes
> through "consistent but broken" first and that can be considered a step
> forward.
> 
> David Buck

Thanks -- it's a great consolation to hear that from The Man Himself ;)

(Though now I feel even more ashamed to have broken what you broght to
life ;))

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Am 05.12.2016 um 13:47 schrieb omniverse:

> Wish I could help but my programming know-how is limited to Basic and Fortran,
> both long since forgotten! Otherwise that sure sounds like a missed call out to
> a subroutine. LOL
> Hopefully something simple like that anyhow.

Nope.

I give you another hint: This is how it looks with the height_field set
to "no_image" ;)

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 05.12.2016 um 13:47 schrieb omniverse:
>
> I give you another hint: This is how it looks with the height_field set
> to "no_image" ;)

Okay, now that would scare me. Just how convoluted is the source code anyway?
Wait, don't answer that, I probably don't want to know and couldn't understand
anyhow!

For some reason this makes me think of a fun house hall of mirrors at the fair.

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omniverse <omn### [at] charternet> wrote:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Am 05.12.2016 um 13:47 schrieb omniverse:
>> 
>> I give you another hint: This is how it looks with the height_field set
>> to "no_image" ;)
> 
> Okay, now that would scare me. Just how convoluted is the source code anyway?
> Wait, don't answer that, I probably don't want to know and couldn't understand
> anyhow!
> 
> For some reason this makes me think of a fun house hall of mirrors at the fair.
> 
> 
> 

You should see the code map I generated from source!

It eats children, poops in your coffee and molests your dog....when it is
in a GOOD mood. ;-)

Ian

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Am 05.12.2016 um 17:24 schrieb omniverse:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Am 05.12.2016 um 13:47 schrieb omniverse:
>>
>> I give you another hint: This is how it looks with the height_field set
>> to "no_image" ;)
> 
> Okay, now that would scare me. Just how convoluted is the source code anyway?
> Wait, don't answer that, I probably don't want to know and couldn't understand
> anyhow!

To the contrary, it didn't scare me in the least -- it just confirmed my
guess: Turns out I just got the test for all the "no_whatever" flags
backwards.

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omniverse <omn### [at] charternet> wrote:
> 
> Wish I could help but my programming know-how is limited to Basic and Fortran,
> both long since forgotten! Otherwise that sure sounds like a missed call out to
> a subroutine. LOL
> Hopefully something simple like that anyhow.
> 
> Bob
> 

You don't have to code to offer material support, even small donations will
help in getting the tools needed to advance The Great Effort:
https://www.gofundme.com/uberpov

There is a tool which will be key in achieving progress in the overall
Refactor and implementation of new advanced features, called CppDepend,
which is a code and dependency analysis tool with comprehensive code query
language which will greatly ease the analysis of a codebase as complex as
that of Povray.

I am supplying Christoph a license to Visual Assist X in the next couple
weeks, he trial of which is already being used to good effect. If everyone
contributed even a small amount the progress that could be made would
surprise people.

Furthermore there are Epics which will require very large development
effort, some of these are much requested and others are prerequisites to
such things, and helping to fund those will be appreciated. Right now the
biggest thing is CppDepend though because it is a large one time
expenditure.

Spreading the word to your fellow Pov users and/or chipping in a little
funding is very helpful and important to the overall goal, even if not
everyone can contribute financially they can spread the word to those who
may be able to. :)

Right now it is just me on the finance side but I hope to expand
participation to a larger base, once people realize what is coming I think
they will be glad to have been a part of it, and I know they will love the
end result.

Ian

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Am 05.12.2016 um 18:15 schrieb [GDS|Entropy]:
> omniverse <omn### [at] charternet> wrote:
>>
>> Wish I could help but my programming know-how is limited to Basic and Fortran,
>> both long since forgotten! Otherwise that sure sounds like a missed call out to
>> a subroutine. LOL
>> Hopefully something simple like that anyhow.
>>
>> Bob
>>
> 
> You don't have to code to offer material support, even small donations will
> help in getting the tools needed to advance The Great Effort:
> https://www.gofundme.com/uberpov

Just for the records: I am Christoph Lipka and I approve this message.

(And no, I don't wear orangutan fur on my head, and haven't deleted an
e-mail in ages.)

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On 5-12-2016 22:17, clipka wrote:
> (And no, I don't wear orangutan fur on my head, and haven't deleted an
> e-mail in ages.)
>

Good to know. I was starting to get worried ;-)

-- 
Thomas

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Am 06.12.2016 um 09:08 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> On 5-12-2016 22:17, clipka wrote:
>> (And no, I don't wear orangutan fur on my head, and haven't deleted an
>> e-mail in ages.)
>>
> 
> Good to know. I was starting to get worried ;-)

https://youtu.be/AVPu09r4W0s

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> (And no, I don't wear orangutan fur on my head, and haven't deleted an
> e-mail in ages.)

I delete e-mails all the time, although I cannot guarantee that Yahoo! and/or
the National Security Agency don't have backups.

James Comey wouldn't be interested anyway.  They're all promotions, news
digests, and monthly statements.

(And I used to have a security clearance, so I can't figure out what's been
going on with the judgment of recent secretaries of state.)

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