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Can you tell from this page whether my other printer is better?
http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00856588#AbT1
I don't see the dpi listed anywhere except for the scanner.
Mike
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On 1/19/2016 7:43 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> Can you tell from this page whether my other printer is better?
>
> http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00856588#AbT1
>
> I don't see the dpi listed anywhere except for the scanner.
>
>
> Mike
Here's a better link.
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/8050965094118643781/specs?sclient=psy-ab&espv=2&biw=1838&bih=995&q=hp+deskjet+f4180+specs&oq=hp+deskjet+f4180+specs&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.112064104,d.cGc&ion=1&tch=1&ech=1&psi=TdeeVvLgLYKSjwOnn5nABw.1453250382123.7&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizhaTbk7fKAhVJyGMKHZMRBjwQuC8IhAE
Mike
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On 1/19/2016 6:24 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 1/19/2016 6:21 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> For regular printing, the spec sheet says "Resolution Up to 1200 × 6000
>> dpi", which works out to 1 dot in 0.01290994448735805628393088466594
>> inches. Maybe you were looking at the Fax section?
>>
>>
>> Mike
>
> Never mind. Dots per inch is measured in a straight line, not an area.
>
>
> Mike
Wat the frig.
Did you get an email from me? Now I am trying Thunderbird for nntp and
I keep hitting "Reply" instead of "Followup". But there's no mail in my
outbox, so I don't know what happened.
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On 1/19/2016 6:24 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 1/19/2016 6:21 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> For regular printing, the spec sheet says "Resolution Up to 1200 × 6000
>> dpi", which works out to 1 dot in 0.01290994448735805628393088466594
>> inches. Maybe you were looking at the Fax section?
>>
>>
>> Mike
>
> Never mind. Dots per inch is measured in a straight line, not an area.
>
>
> Mike
[ yay, found the post that went out as email ]
Ha! Yes I was looking at the fax section (which is limited by the T4 and
T30 ancient FAX specs)
So 1200x6000 is very decent, but you still have the "size of dot" issue.
One thing you can do is photo paper, which has less bleeding/absorbancy
than regular paper. - Make sure to select the photo paper type driver as
this prints a lot more slowly to minimize the amount of wet ink sitting
on the paper.
A pro printing shop will have a loupe with a ruler in it so you can
measure the size and bleed of dots from your paper. Walmart (not a pro
shop) will do an 8x10 for $2.89 . Photo chemistry is going to give you
the best true resolution. (Although I don't know the resolution of the
Fuji gear at Walmart, in 2000 they used our Gretag[1] boxes which did
true 4800x4800).
[1] I worked on the UI and drivers for the machine. I bowed to the
superior intelligence of the Swiss engineers who used the width of
molecules in their chemistry calculations.
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Le 16-01-19 23:56, dick balaska a écrit :
> On 1/19/2016 6:24 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> On 1/19/2016 6:21 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>>> For regular printing, the spec sheet says "Resolution Up to 1200 × 6000
>>> dpi", which works out to 1 dot in 0.01290994448735805628393088466594
>>> inches. Maybe you were looking at the Fax section?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> Never mind. Dots per inch is measured in a straight line, not an area.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>
> [ yay, found the post that went out as email ]
>
> Ha! Yes I was looking at the fax section (which is limited by the T4 and
> T30 ancient FAX specs)
>
> So 1200x6000 is very decent, but you still have the "size of dot" issue.
> One thing you can do is photo paper, which has less bleeding/absorbancy
> than regular paper. - Make sure to select the photo paper type driver as
> this prints a lot more slowly to minimize the amount of wet ink sitting
> on the paper.
>
> A pro printing shop will have a loupe with a ruler in it so you can
> measure the size and bleed of dots from your paper. Walmart (not a pro
> shop) will do an 8x10 for $2.89 . Photo chemistry is going to give you
> the best true resolution. (Although I don't know the resolution of the
> Fuji gear at Walmart, in 2000 they used our Gretag[1] boxes which did
> true 4800x4800).
>
> [1] I worked on the UI and drivers for the machine. I bowed to the
> superior intelligence of the Swiss engineers who used the width of
> molecules in their chemistry calculations.
One *BIG* limiting factor is the paper used.
Most paper will make the ink from an ink jet printer bleed and spread,
possibly a lot. For the best quality, you need a coated, low capilarity,
paper. That will make the ink take longer to dry, but prevent most
spreading of the ink.
It's not such a problem with laser printer that use dry inks, but it
still can affect the pring quality. For laser printers, the main
limiting factor is the quality of the optics.
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Here is the chromadepth scene again after changing the pattern from
gradient to spherical. Unfortunately, I don't really sense any 3D
effect. In fact the tree line in the distance is messed up. The leaves
of the trees appear much closer than the trunks. I don't consider this
experiment a success. :(
Mike
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On 20.01.2016 5:27, dick balaska wrote:
> Did you get an email from me? Now I am trying Thunderbird for nntp and
> I keep hitting "Reply" instead of "Followup". But there's no mail in my
> outbox, so I don't know what happened.
How do you reply? In my Thunderbird both Reply button in toolbar and
the Ctrl+R shortcut seem to default to "followup" for newsgroup posts.
Only "reply all" or "reply to sender only" include email address.
Also if you do accidentally send a mail via the newsgroup account it
is possible its outbox / sent folder is configured differently from the
email account. Possibly the mail ended up under "Local folders".
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On 1/26/2016 6:59 PM, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> On 20.01.2016 5:27, dick balaska wrote:
>
>> Did you get an email from me? Now I am trying Thunderbird for nntp and
>> I keep hitting "Reply" instead of "Followup". But there's no mail in my
>> outbox, so I don't know what happened.
>
> How do you reply? In my Thunderbird both Reply button in toolbar and
> the Ctrl+R shortcut seem to default to "followup" for newsgroup posts.
> Only "reply all" or "reply to sender only" include email address.
>
> Also if you do accidentally send a mail via the newsgroup account it
> is possible its outbox / sent folder is configured differently from the
> email account. Possibly the mail ended up under "Local folders".
>
I have the same problem as Dick. You have to press the Followup button.
I never tried the shortcuts though.
Mike
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On 27-1-2016 0:59, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> On 20.01.2016 5:27, dick balaska wrote:
>
>> Did you get an email from me? Now I am trying Thunderbird for nntp and
>> I keep hitting "Reply" instead of "Followup". But there's no mail in my
>> outbox, so I don't know what happened.
>
> How do you reply? In my Thunderbird both Reply button in toolbar and
> the Ctrl+R shortcut seem to default to "followup" for newsgroup posts.
> Only "reply all" or "reply to sender only" include email address.
>
> Also if you do accidentally send a mail via the newsgroup account it
> is possible its outbox / sent folder is configured differently from the
> email account. Possibly the mail ended up under "Local folders".
>
My 'Outbox'folder in Thunderbird is always empty. However, look into the
'Sent/Local Folders' folder: there is where the messages go, from
'Followup' as well as from 'reply'.
--
Thomas
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On 1/26/2016 8:21 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 1/26/2016 6:59 PM, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>> On 20.01.2016 5:27, dick balaska wrote:
>>
>>> Did you get an email from me? Now I am trying Thunderbird for nntp and
>>> I keep hitting "Reply" instead of "Followup". But there's no mail in my
>>> outbox, so I don't know what happened.
>>
>> How do you reply? In my Thunderbird both Reply button in toolbar and
>> the Ctrl+R shortcut seem to default to "followup" for newsgroup posts.
>> Only "reply all" or "reply to sender only" include email address.
>>
>> Also if you do accidentally send a mail via the newsgroup account it
>> is possible its outbox / sent folder is configured differently from the
>> email account. Possibly the mail ended up under "Local folders".
I did find the mail in Local Folders after I didn't need it.
> I have the same problem as Dick. You have to press the Followup button.
> I never tried the shortcuts though.
In the message header pane, right-click -> Customize. Remove the reply
button. I never hit Reply anymore. ;)
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