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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 12 Sep 2014 07:55:27
Message: <5412df2f$1@news.povray.org>
On 12-9-2014 10:24, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Not when you are an alien :-D

But seriously, observation does not mean staring at people. It means 
that you are receptive to attitude, pose, expression, reactions of 
people around you.

Thomas


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 12 Sep 2014 14:35:01
Message: <op.xl268je0ufxv4h@xena.home>
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:24:22 +0200, Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg>  
wrote:

> On 12-9-2014 5:43, And wrote:
>> But sometimes observation of other people will interrupt each other.  
>> Why don't
>> you mind that?
>>
>
> Not when you are an alien :-D
>

Or an Observer...

> Thomas


-- 
-Nekar Xenos-


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From: And
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 13 Sep 2014 05:25:01
Message: <web.54140d5ac61704b4b404a92e0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 12-9-2014 10:24, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > Not when you are an alien :-D
>
> But seriously, observation does not mean staring at people. It means
> that you are receptive to attitude, pose, expression, reactions of
> people around you.
>
> Thomas

Hmmm OK. Thank you.


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 13 Sep 2014 21:05:01
Message: <web.5414e93fc61704b4d19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
"And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> > On 12-9-2014 10:24, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > > Not when you are an alien :-D
> >
> > But seriously, observation does not mean staring at people. It means
> > that you are receptive to attitude, pose, expression, reactions of
> > people around you.
> >
> > Thomas
>
> Hmmm OK. Thank you.

Don't mind that guy staring at you. It's just Thomas.


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From: And
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 16 Sep 2014 15:35:01
Message: <web.5418903ec61704b46e139fe50@news.povray.org>
"jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> > Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> > > On 12-9-2014 10:24, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > > > Not when you are an alien :-D
> > >
> > > But seriously, observation does not mean staring at people. It means
> > > that you are receptive to attitude, pose, expression, reactions of
> > > people around you.
> > >
> > > Thomas
> >
> > Hmmm OK. Thank you.
>
> Don't mind that guy staring at you. It's just Thomas.

Ha :)


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From: And
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 16 Sep 2014 16:15:00
Message: <web.5418996ac61704b46e139fe50@news.povray.org>
"jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> > If photorealistic is important to you, I suggest that researching the knowledge
> > on physical based lighting. It has some concepts.
>
> Can use Uberpov's no cache stochastic rendering.

Is there any difference between no cache result and typical radiosity even with
very small error_bound?


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 16 Sep 2014 19:49:07
Message: <5418cc73@news.povray.org>
Am 16.09.2014 22:11, schrieb And:
> "jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>> "And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
>>> If photorealistic is important to you, I suggest that researching the knowledge
>>> on physical based lighting. It has some concepts.
>>
>> Can use Uberpov's no cache stochastic rendering.
>
> Is there any difference between no cache result and typical radiosity even with
> very small error_bound?

The short answer is "yes".

The somewhat longer answer begins with, "that certainly depends on your 
scene."

One thing that no_cache does is make the scene grainy (but 
"anti-aliasing" mode 3 can be used to good effect to counter this effect 
as much as desired, and I actually like it because it gives the image a 
more lively appearance.)

What you will /not/ have with no_cache is any type of splotchy 
artifacts; for instance, radiosity scenes with small detail on otherwise 
flat surfaces tend to have bright blotches in the crevices, which are 
very difficult to counteract with radiosity settings. Not so with 
no_cache: This rendering mode is true to the smallest detail (provided 
you throw enough computing time at it, otherwise the details may drown 
in random noise).


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From: And
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 17 Sep 2014 11:25:01
Message: <web.5419a6d4c61704b46e139fe50@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 16.09.2014 22:11, schrieb And wrote
> >
> > Is there any difference between no cache result and typical radiosity even with
> > very small error_bound?
>
> The short answer is "yes".
>
> The somewhat longer answer begins with, "that certainly depends on your
> scene."
>
> One thing that no_cache does is make the scene grainy (but
> "anti-aliasing" mode 3 can be used to good effect to counter this effect
> as much as desired, and I actually like it because it gives the image a
> more lively appearance.)
>
> What you will /not/ have with no_cache is any type of splotchy
> artifacts; for instance, radiosity scenes with small detail on otherwise
> flat surfaces tend to have bright blotches in the crevices, which are
> very difficult to counteract with radiosity settings. Not so with
> no_cache: This rendering mode is true to the smallest detail (provided
> you throw enough computing time at it, otherwise the details may drown
> in random noise).

Oh, thank you. I'm occupied these days. I will post my new renders if I have.


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 18 Sep 2014 14:10:00
Message: <web.541b1fa0c61704b4192ae5f10@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> #5 De Dulle Griet is a wip from 2007-2008. I stopped its development
> because of conflicting ideas I had about what the image would be in the
> end: In fact, a double image, one showing 'reality' (the copy I attach
> here) and one showing Cathy's imagination. I may revisit some day...

I am sorry, but I cannot hold it in any more.  The child in the background keeps
reminding me of former senator Larry Craig of Idaho.  (Google Craig wide
stance.)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Silentium - final
Date: 19 Sep 2014 03:10:08
Message: <541bd6d0$1@news.povray.org>
On 18-9-2014 20:08, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> I am sorry, but I cannot hold it in any more.  The child in the background keeps
> reminding me of former senator Larry Craig of Idaho.  (Google Craig wide
> stance.)
>
>

<grin>

Thomas


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