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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 8 Dec 2009 13:36:00
Message: <4b1e9c90$1@news.povray.org>

> Looks like a job for a 3D printer!   :-)
> 
> Here's one for only $5000:  http://www.desktopfactory.com/our_product/
> 
> 
> 
> On 2009-12-07 21:14, Alain wrote:

>>> Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>>> Now model a modern art gallery and put these on pedestals therein.
>>>
>>> Good idea! I could make some of them really big, put 2D plots in picture
>>> frames... *gazes into middle distance*
>>>
>>>
>> Beter yet:
>>
>> Make them *for real!*
>>
>>
>> Alain
> 

I've seen one made out from an old ploter converted with the laser from 
an old fax machine. You can also reuse one from any old laser printer. 
It could create stuning models out of ordinary sugar with a granyness of 
about 0.5mm.
It can be home made for under $100 or about, and the functioning cost is 
prety low.



Alain


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From: Rick Gutleber
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 8 Dec 2009 15:18:10
Message: <4b1eb482$1@news.povray.org>
I've seen demos of that as well.  In one instance, they "printed" a 
chain made out of sugar, with the links already connected.

The raw materials are very cheap.  It's a fast-moving field of research 
and development.  Very exciting stuff.  In another 10 years, we might 
have machine to fabricate 3D objects out of all kinds of materials, 
including food!

Imagine the possibilities:

Strange Attractor Crackers
Chocolate Mandelbulbs
Menger Sponge Cake
Cantor Cheese Logs
Moebius Strip Steaks
Solenoid Licorice
(see http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mjmcguff/codeGallery/*)

Rick

* Many years ago, I wrote code to generate Pickover's solenoids in POV-Ray.


On 2009-12-08 13:36, Alain wrote:

>> Looks like a job for a 3D printer! :-)
>>
>> Here's one for only $5000: http://www.desktopfactory.com/our_product/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2009-12-07 21:14, Alain wrote:

>>>> Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>>>> Now model a modern art gallery and put these on pedestals therein.
>>>>
>>>> Good idea! I could make some of them really big, put 2D plots in
>>>> picture
>>>> frames... *gazes into middle distance*
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Beter yet:
>>>
>>> Make them *for real!*
>>>
>>>
>>> Alain
>>
>
> I've seen one made out from an old ploter converted with the laser from
> an old fax machine. You can also reuse one from any old laser printer.
> It could create stuning models out of ordinary sugar with a granyness of
> about 0.5mm.
> It can be home made for under $100 or about, and the functioning cost is
> prety low.
>
>
>
> Alain


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From: Rick Gutleber
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 8 Dec 2009 15:20:32
Message: <4b1eb510$1@news.povray.org>
They didn't teach anything like that when I was in school, although I 
still didn't pay enough attention.

My mind managed to completely block out all memories of differential 
equations completely.  To this day I couldn't tell you the first thing 
about them.  :-)

But thanks to POV-Ray, I'm very comfortable with trigonometry!

On 2009-12-07 16:31, s.day wrote:
> Bill Pragnell<bil### [at] hotmailcom>  wrote:
>> All that amazing mandelbulb stuff has inspired me to dig out a strange
>> attractor search/plot app I wrote a few years ago, and try to get some
>> decent plots into POV-Ray. Here's a few of the nicer ones I've found
>> over the last couple of weeks.
>>
>> Bill
>
> Excellent really interesting shapes, I don't think I will even try to understand
> how they were made and just accept I should have paid more attention at school.
> It's a shame they don't look as good at high resolutions you could make some
> fairly good abstract poster art.
>
> Sean
>


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 8 Dec 2009 19:05:00
Message: <web.4b1ee97be6b3a3e077a8e84e0@news.povray.org>
Rick Gutleber <ric### [at] hiscom> wrote:
> They didn't teach anything like that when I was in school, although I
> still didn't pay enough attention.
>
> My mind managed to completely block out all memories of differential
> equations completely.  To this day I couldn't tell you the first thing
> about them.  :-)
>
> But thanks to POV-Ray, I'm very comfortable with trigonometry!

I'm sure I would have paid a lot more attention if they had used POV to try to
teach me (although I don't think it was around back then...). Still, my daughter
was the only pupil in her class that knew what a radius was as she had asked me
how I created pictures on the computer and I had shown her how to make a very
basic scene. I'm sure using something like POV would make the lessons much more
memorable.

Sean


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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 8 Dec 2009 19:10:03
Message: <web.4b1eea9ae6b3a3e04726e92b0@news.povray.org>
Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> All that amazing mandelbulb stuff has inspired me to dig out a strange
> attractor search/plot app I wrote a few years ago, and try to get some
> decent plots into POV-Ray. Here's a few of the nicer ones I've found
> over the last couple of weeks.
>
> Bill

Wow, those are awesome Bill! I wrote a little app a couple of years back to plot
2d attractors but never came up with anything as cool as your 3d versions. The
renders are very artistically done - I love the lighting.

Seeing these made me go searching through my own stuff - here's one I did that's
a "morph" between two attractors. I loaded the data sets into SDL arrays and
used elements from each array as cylinder endpoints (with gradient pigments
along their arbitrary axes). Good times.

Rob

http://www.McGregorFineArt.com


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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 8 Dec 2009 19:15:02
Message: <web.4b1eeb52e6b3a3e04726e92b0@news.povray.org>
And here's another one where I used the attractor data to generate a height
field and associated pigment.

:)


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 9 Dec 2009 05:15:00
Message: <web.4b1f777be6b3a3e06dd25f0b0@news.povray.org>
"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> wrote:
> Wow, those are awesome Bill!

Thanks!

> 2d attractors but never came up with anything as cool as your 3d versions. The
> renders are very artistically done - I love the lighting.

Random colours and positions, seeded by the data file. Usually needs a bit of a
tweak to get a nice combo, but quite handy!

> Seeing these made me go searching through my own stuff - here's one I did that's
> a "morph" between two attractors.

Looks interesting - it's a pity you can't quite make out the attractors'
shapes... good idea though. I might try an animation using my sphere technique,
if I turn off AA they only take a minute or so.

Bill


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 9 Dec 2009 06:00:00
Message: <web.4b1f82fde6b3a3e0f48316a30@news.povray.org>
Gobsmackingly goodlooking!

But I think you got the spidery one wrong:  looks more like a butterfly and a
very good looking one at that!

Povray abstracts at its best, ladies and gentleman! :D


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 9 Dec 2009 06:30:00
Message: <web.4b1f8943e6b3a3e06dd25f0b0@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> But I think you got the spidery one wrong:  looks more like a butterfly and a
> very good looking one at that!

Hehe, naming was an issue, until I decided to call them the first noun that came
to mind when looking at the 2D plot. Some of them look utterly different in
3D... :)

> Povray abstracts at its best, ladies and gentleman! :D

There's plenty more. I'll put them all up on a web page at some point :)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Strange attractors
Date: 9 Dec 2009 08:35:11
Message: <4b1fa78f$1@news.povray.org>
Robert McGregor wrote:

> Seeing these made me go searching through my own stuff - here's one I did that's
> a "morph" between two attractors. I loaded the data sets into SDL arrays and
> used elements from each array as cylinder endpoints (with gradient pigments
> along their arbitrary axes). Good times.
> 

What a good idea to use that background. :D


-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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