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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 19 Feb 2001 20:57:28
Message: <3A91CE8C.B22A5F4C@hotmail.com>
Duncan Gray wrote:
> 
> Wow. I'm gobsmacked.
>
> I'd like to offer some form of suggestion as to how to improve it ... but I
> cant ...
> 
> Perfect.

Thank you very much anyway !


(I'll have to look up "gobsmacked" somewhere,
but I have a feeling that my dictionary doesn't
have that word :)

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Tor Olav

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 20 Feb 2001 04:47:37
Message: <3A923D3B.BE192CFD@gmx.de>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
> I have now dimmed down the main light source and reduced the
> recursion_limit from 4 to 3 and started a new rendering.
> 
> Hopefully I'll see the result tomorrow when I come home from work.
> 

Ooops, i thought you were using recursion_limit 1, if you use 3 or 4, this
seems perfectly ok.

> 
> But would this be possible when the shape is made with CSG ?
> 
> ... Or are there any "iso-normals" in MegaPOV ?
> 

No, but in this case you could try to code the CSG in an isosurface
function although it's probably not worth the work, because it will be
extremely slow.  

Christoph

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From: Duncan Gray
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 20 Feb 2001 18:24:56
Message: <3a92fcc8@news.povray.org>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> (I'll have to look up "gobsmacked" somewhere,
> but I have a feeling that my dictionary doesn't
> have that word :)

My apologies - I must be more careful with my use of English - your English
is so good that I  forget it is not your first language.

My definition of Gobsmacked would be:

Stunned. As though one has just been slapped across the face with a large
fish.

But my dictionary defines it as:

Gobsmacked: Adjective. (slang) Flabbergasted, utterly amazed or overawed.
Flabbergasted: Astounded (to shock with surprise)
Overawed: Overcome with awe (respect or admiration)

Therefore if I may respond again to your picture:

--
Wow. I am utterly amazed by you picture and as stunned as person who has
just been slapped on the face with a large, wet fish. The first view of your
picture shocked and supprised me and left me feeling overcome with respect
and admiration for you and your work.

(I liked it very much. But such a short phrase cannot possibly describe how
much I liked it  :-)
--
Duncan Gray
(warning: may contain traces of nut)


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 21 Feb 2001 20:18:30
Message: <3A946867.760FE0E1@hotmail.com>
Duncan Gray wrote:
> 
> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> > (I'll have to look up "gobsmacked" somewhere,
> > but I have a feeling that my dictionary doesn't
> > have that word :)
> 
> My apologies - I must be more careful with my use of English - your English
> is so good that I  forget it is not your first language.
> 
> My definition of Gobsmacked would be:
> 
> Stunned. As though one has just been slapped across the face with a large
> fish.
> 
> But my dictionary defines it as:
> 
> Gobsmacked: Adjective. (slang) Flabbergasted, utterly amazed or overawed.
> Flabbergasted: Astounded (to shock with surprise)
> Overawed: Overcome with awe (respect or admiration)
> 
> Therefore if I may respond again to your picture:
> 
> --
> Wow. I am utterly amazed by you picture and as stunned as person who has
> just been slapped on the face with a large, wet fish. The first view of your
> picture shocked and supprised me and left me feeling overcome with respect
> and admiration for you and your work.
> 
> (I liked it very much. But such a short phrase cannot possibly describe how
> much I liked it  :-)


Hi Duncan

I don't know what to say ...
except for THANKS (and that I'm blushing).

=)


P.S.:
Please don't stop using strange words.
- I like to learn new ones.

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Tor Olav

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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 22 Feb 2001 10:34:51
Message: <g4ca9ts2qv3p6ih84tru2e8tajrmbb8qkk@4ax.com>
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 03:24:54 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen <tor### [at] hotmailcom>
wrote:

<snip>

I thought this was a strikingly original image when I saw it, but now, after
reading the the excerpt below from the science section of today's Guardian
newspaper, I see Tor, that you have just been looking through your molecule
scanning microscope  :-)

"For years ATP was called the powerhouse of the cell, but this
was a metaphor: no one expected it actually to rotate like a
turbine, but this is in fact what it does. The ATP motor is an
enzyme, ATP synthase, with a structure that has been likened
to a mushroom: six pods sit around a spindle, and the reaction
precesses around the six heads. In the cell the rotation itself
does not drive anything physically: it is a byproduct of the cyclic
reactions that have to cascade to keep going. In living cells, the
energy produced is passed down an electrochemical chain of
reactions until it finds useful work to do, in moving a muscle, for
example."
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 23 Feb 2001 17:06:55
Message: <3A96DE9C.439C31DB@faricy.net>
David Wilkinson wrote:

> I thought this was a strikingly original image when I saw it, but now, after
> reading the the excerpt below from the science section of today's Guardian
> newspaper, I see Tor, that you have just been looking through your molecule
> scanning microscope  :-)
> ...
> to a mushroom: six pods sit around a spindle, and the reaction
> ...

But if you look closely there's an irregularity, Tor's has 7 :)

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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 23 Feb 2001 17:37:57
Message: <qfpd9tc78rngeo2vhp41iaeuqroda1903q@4ax.com>
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:05:16 -0600, David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote:

>David Wilkinson wrote:
>
>> I thought this was a strikingly original image when I saw it, but now, after
>> reading the the excerpt below from the science section of today's Guardian
>> newspaper, I see Tor, that you have just been looking through your molecule
>> scanning microscope  :-)
>> ...
>> to a mushroom: six pods sit around a spindle, and the reaction
>> ...
>
>But if you look closely there's an irregularity, Tor's has 7 :)

Evolution strikes again!
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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 23 Feb 2001 18:24:46
Message: <3A96F0CE.2FAD4688@hotmail.com>
David Wilkinson wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 03:24:54 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen <tor### [at] hotmailcom>
> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> I thought this was a strikingly original image when I saw it, but now, after
> reading the the excerpt below from the science section of today's Guardian
> newspaper, I see Tor, that you have just been looking through your molecule
> scanning microscope  :-)
> 
> "For years ATP was called the powerhouse of the cell, but this
> was a metaphor: no one expected it actually to rotate like a
> turbine, but this is in fact what it does. The ATP motor is an
> enzyme, ATP synthase, with a structure that has been likened
> to a mushroom: six pods sit around a spindle, and the reaction
> precesses around the six heads. In the cell the rotation itself
> does not drive anything physically: it is a byproduct of the cyclic
> reactions that have to cascade to keep going. In living cells, the
> energy produced is passed down an electrochemical chain of
> reactions until it finds useful work to do, in moving a muscle, for
> example."

=)


Did they show any pictures ?

I wish I had such molecule scanning microscope...
or even a plain microscope to put my Nikon onto.

Those macro and micro worlds are very exiting !


-- 
Best regards,

Tor Olav

mailto:tor### [at] hotmailcom
http://hjem.sol.no/t-o-k/tokpicts.html
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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 23 Feb 2001 18:28:04
Message: <3A96F195.DE59BA6F@hotmail.com>
David Fontaine wrote:
> 
> David Wilkinson wrote:
> 
> > I thought this was a strikingly original image when I saw it, but now, after
> > reading the the excerpt below from the science section of today's Guardian
> > newspaper, I see Tor, that you have just been looking through your molecule
> > scanning microscope  :-)
> > ...
> > to a mushroom: six pods sit around a spindle, and the reaction
> > ...
> 
> But if you look closely there's an irregularity, Tor's has 7 :)

The wide angled camera deceives your eyes.

It's actually 8 mushpods there (like at the corners of a cube).


-- 
Best regards,

Tor Olav

mailto:tor### [at] hotmailcom
http://hjem.sol.no/t-o-k/tokpicts.html
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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Mushy Sphere (37KB)
Date: 23 Feb 2001 18:31:10
Message: <3A96F24E.5903F366@hotmail.com>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> ...
> It's actually 8 mushpods there (like at the corners of a cube).

Sorry.
Not like in a cube, cause the lower 4 are
rotated 45 degrees around the y-axis.

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Tor Olav

mailto:tor### [at] hotmailcom
http://hjem.sol.no/t-o-k/tokpicts.html
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