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From: Warp
Subject: Re: AVI or MPEG?
Date: 15 Mar 2005 06:00:33
Message: <4236c051@news.povray.org>
Greg M. Johnson <gregj;-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> Okay here's the flipside: what's the best HTML (or other web page syntax) 
> means for distributing a video?

  Just put a link to the video file?

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[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Peter Duthie
Subject: Re: AVI or MPEG?
Date: 15 Mar 2005 17:58:46
Message: <423768a6@news.povray.org>
I assume Greg means which format will work with the most people when 
they click on the link to the video file.  In which case I think 
animated GIF would be the most universal.... although this might not be 
what you had in mind!  I'd suggest pick a few different encoding types, 
and put multiple links on your page, let the viewer decide.  This seems 
to be what a lot of commercial sites do now anyway, with a link to a 
Real Video encoded file, and another link to windows media compatible 
file.  Not that I'm a fan of either of those.

Peter D.

Warp wrote:

> Greg M. Johnson <gregj;-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
>>Okay here's the flipside: what's the best HTML (or other web page syntax) 
>>means for distributing a video?
> 
> 
>   Just put a link to the video file?
>


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: AVI or MPEG?
Date: 15 Mar 2005 20:02:18
Message: <4237859a@news.povray.org>
Peter Duthie <pd_### [at] warlordsofbeercom> wrote:
> This seems 
> to be what a lot of commercial sites do now anyway, with a link to a 
> Real Video encoded file, and another link to windows media compatible 
> file.  Not that I'm a fan of either of those.

  I don't recommend using those either. They are proprietary closed
formats which you usually can't play with any given free player (unless
support has been hacked "illegally" in it) and the players they provide
(for only a few platforms, of course) usually suck big time. Also their
size/quality ratio is much worse than eg. with XviD. (Another one I do
not recommend is quicktime .mov for the same reasons.)

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N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -


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From: scorpmetal
Subject: Re: AVI or MPEG?
Date: 16 Mar 2005 03:55:00
Message: <web.4237f3d1a206947cfe7107b80@news.povray.org>
How to convert the file *.avi to the file *.mpeg??? Can you show me some
link to download ?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: AVI or MPEG?
Date: 16 Mar 2005 07:21:50
Message: <423824de@news.povray.org>
scorpmetal <sco### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> How to convert the file *.avi to the file *.mpeg???

  Why would you want to?

  Anyways, I believe tmpgenc can do that (try google).

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[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
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From: Jaap
Subject: Re: AVI or MPEG?
Date: 23 Mar 2005 11:10:01
Message: <web.42419401a206947ca8399d8d0@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Peter Duthie <pd_### [at] warlordsofbeercom> wrote:
> > This seems
> > to be what a lot of commercial sites do now anyway, with a link to a
> > Real Video encoded file, and another link to windows media compatible
> > file.  Not that I'm a fan of either of those.
>
>   I don't recommend using those either. They are proprietary closed
> formats (...)

It's not the best bet for compatibility(yet), but the ogg theora format is
at least very open (full published specs and reference codecs). it's a very
simple format (someone is even making an FPGA implementation),
and it should be able outperform divx/xvid.
And before anyone will install a player that supports this format,
someone will have to publish there movies in this new format :-)
Today's hardware is capable of rendering a large number of frames at DVD
resolution, so publishing in mpeg1 seems a bit of a waste of
storage/bandwidth.

(see also my theora HOWTO post in
POV-Ray:Newsgroups:povray.binaries.utilities)

jaap.


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