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From: Simon Lemieux
Subject: Building MPEG
Date: 12 Oct 2000 16:08:36
Message: <39E61AAA.7C686F8@yahoo.com>
Hi,
	I have been using mpeg2encode for a few months now and this is the only tool
I've used at all for encoding MPEG from pictures.

I was wondering two things,
 1) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting a good
animation for the IRTC. (ie: valid encryption)
 2) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting an animation
with the Best quality of frames and still a bit of compression (I'm talking
about mpeg, not avi...)

And then, are there software for linux that can do both?
I've looked at the utility page on www.povray.org, but geez, I'd have to try
them all??  But maybe you already examined some of them?

Thanks,
	Simon
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Building MPEG
Date: 16 Oct 2000 09:53:51
Message: <39eb086e@news.povray.org>
Encrypting and encoding are two different things.

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From: Simon Lemieux
Subject: Re: Building MPEG
Date: 17 Oct 2000 00:35:56
Message: <39EBD761.B58A1F6E@yahoo.com>
>   Encrypting and encoding are two different things.

Hmmm, yes indeed.  I must have made a mistake, but I'm sure you understood I
meant "encoding"! (Converting a serie of pictures to a single movie file)

Thanks,
	Simon

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From: Nicolas Calimet
Subject: Re: Building MPEG
Date: 30 Oct 2000 12:31:43
Message: <39FDB1CF.6DB2BD63@free.fr>
<french>
Salut Simon ;-)
</french>

>         I have been using mpeg2encode for a few months now and this is the only tool
> I've used at all for encoding MPEG from pictures.
>
> I was wondering two things,
>  1) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting a good
> animation for the IRTC. (ie: valid encryption)
>  2) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting an animation
> with the Best quality of frames and still a bit of compression (I'm talking
> about mpeg, not avi...)

	What's wrong with the MSSG encoder ? What do you mean by valid encoding ?
The mpeg2encode tool is supposed to give you "valid" files since it has been
used for the test models of the MPEG Commitee.
	There are several ways to improve quality of an encoding, in general
sense, not only with this tools. Parameters depend on which models you want
to use (MPEG-1 or 2), the bitrate you need, the type of source (TV caps, CG
animation, ...) and much more. I could manage having correct results in MPEG-2
with this tool while tweaking default parameters carefully.
	Under Linux, I don't know much good softs for encoding, but there's
one that rules in Windows platform: TMPGEnc. It's free until now, best quality
ever - even commercial softs can't cope with it. Produces VCD/SVCD/DVD(NTSC)-
compliant video streams. It's a japanese soft, but there are english ressources
for it (patch) until the author switch to an english version (should be the
next release).

Current TMPGEnc website:          www.yks.ne.jp/~hori/TMPGEnc.html
Future location (not ready yet):  www.tmpgenc.com
English ressources:               www.jamsoft.com/tmpgenc/ [check this one first]

	Note: I posted similar infos in p.unix a few months ago in the
"mpeg_encode Berkeley" thread (2000-08-20)

	Believe me, you should try it, it's also very fast. Input in from AVI
stream, but you can easily make it from TGA files.
	This soft, a few other tools, and DVD players are the only reason for
me to keep windoze on my PC ;-)


*** Nicolas Calimet
*** http://pov4grasp.free.fr


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From: Simon Lemieux
Subject: Re: Building MPEG
Date: 30 Oct 2000 21:53:03
Message: <39FE4237.95292610@yahoo.com>
>         What's wrong with the MSSG encoder ? What do you mean by valid encoding ?
> The mpeg2encode tool is supposed to give you "valid" files since it has been
> used for the test models of the MPEG Commitee.
>         There are several ways to improve quality of an encoding, in general
> sense, not only with this tools. Parameters depend on which models you want
> to use (MPEG-1 or 2), the bitrate you need, the type of source (TV caps, CG
> animation, ...) and much more. I could manage having correct results in MPEG-2
> with this tool while tweaking default parameters carefully.
>         Under Linux, I don't know much good softs for encoding, but there's
> one that rules in Windows platform: TMPGEnc. It's free until now, best quality
> ever - even commercial softs can't cope with it. Produces VCD/SVCD/DVD(NTSC)-
> compliant video streams. It's a japanese soft, but there are english ressources
> for it (patch) until the author switch to an english version (should be the
> next release).

My problem is that I don't have windows, and currently only have mpeg2encode, I
was wondering if there were any other software for linux that could give best
results... I'll try working with mpeg2encode, but if you know any other, please
post it!

Thanks,
	Simon

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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: Building MPEG
Date: 4 Nov 2000 22:09:35
Message: <3A04CF68.50061D2A@ij.net>
Simon Lemieux wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>         I have been using mpeg2encode for a few months now and this is the only tool
> I've used at all for encoding MPEG from pictures.

> I was wondering two things,
>  1) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting a good
> animation for the IRTC. (ie: valid encryption)

	I have since found mpeg_encode compiled for linus if you want to give
it a try. 

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From: Ed Brannin
Subject: Re: Building MPEG
Date: 6 May 2001 20:51:47
Message: <3af5f1a3$1@news.povray.org>
> >  1) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting a
good
> > animation for the IRTC. (ie: valid encryption)
> What's wrong with the MSSG encoder ? What do you mean by valid encoding ?
> The mpeg2encode tool is supposed to give you "valid" files since it has
been
> used for the test models of the MPEG Commitee.

Since Simon used the terms "IRTC" and "Valid" in the same sentence, I'll
assume he meant the following (from
http://www.irtc.org/anims/rules.html#anims ):

Only MPEG-1 format animation files are acceptable. "I", "P", and "B" frames
are permitted.
The MPEG file must be less than 5mb (5,242,880 bytes) in size.
The MPEG file may have any frame size or frame count. We recommend frames of
320x240 pixels, however, based on current widespread hardware and software
limitations.

well, I guess that's not too restrictive, save that MPEG-2 is a no-no.


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From: Michael Yecchh
Subject: Re: Building MPEG
Date: 22 Oct 2001 22:29:35
Message: <3bd4d60f$1@news.povray.org>
I tried to install TMPGEnc and it crashed some software on my computer.
TMPGEnc never did work and I had to do a full restore to get my system
straight.  I'm using Win2000 on a  1.4GHz P4.  Could be fluke, of course,
but there seem to be enough encoder candidates out there such that it will
be awhile before I try that one again.
r



"Nicolas Calimet" <pov### [at] freefr> wrote in message
news:39FDB1CF.6DB2BD63@free.fr...
> <french>
> Salut Simon ;-)
> </french>
>
> >         I have been using mpeg2encode for a few months now and this is
the only tool
> > I've used at all for encoding MPEG from pictures.
> >
> > I was wondering two things,
> >  1) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting a
good
> > animation for the IRTC. (ie: valid encryption)
> >  2) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting an
animation
> > with the Best quality of frames and still a bit of compression (I'm
talking
> > about mpeg, not avi...)
>
> What's wrong with the MSSG encoder ? What do you mean by valid encoding ?
> The mpeg2encode tool is supposed to give you "valid" files since it has
been
> used for the test models of the MPEG Commitee.
> There are several ways to improve quality of an encoding, in general
> sense, not only with this tools. Parameters depend on which models you
want
> to use (MPEG-1 or 2), the bitrate you need, the type of source (TV caps,
CG
> animation, ...) and much more. I could manage having correct results in
MPEG-2
> with this tool while tweaking default parameters carefully.
> Under Linux, I don't know much good softs for encoding, but there's
> one that rules in Windows platform: TMPGEnc. It's free until now, best
quality
> ever - even commercial softs can't cope with it. Produces
VCD/SVCD/DVD(NTSC)-
> compliant video streams. It's a japanese soft, but there are english
ressources
> for it (patch) until the author switch to an english version (should be
the
> next release).
>
> Current TMPGEnc website:          www.yks.ne.jp/~hori/TMPGEnc.html
> Future location (not ready yet):  www.tmpgenc.com
> English ressources:               www.jamsoft.com/tmpgenc/ [check this one
first]
>
> Note: I posted similar infos in p.unix a few months ago in the
> "mpeg_encode Berkeley" thread (2000-08-20)
>
> Believe me, you should try it, it's also very fast. Input in from AVI
> stream, but you can easily make it from TGA files.
> This soft, a few other tools, and DVD players are the only reason for
> me to keep windoze on my PC ;-)
>
>
> *** Nicolas Calimet
> *** http://pov4grasp.free.fr


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From: niteris 2000
Subject: Re: Building MPEG
Date: 13 Jul 2002 05:09:11
Message: <3d2fee37$1@news.povray.org>
I use bmp2avi and that works swell.  Even allows you to use your own codec.
Is a win32 command line tool, maybe lindows will run it????
-Zach
"Michael Yecchh" <som### [at] anywherecom> wrote in message
news:3bd4d60f$1@news.povray.org...
> I tried to install TMPGEnc and it crashed some software on my computer.
> TMPGEnc never did work and I had to do a full restore to get my system
> straight.  I'm using Win2000 on a  1.4GHz P4.  Could be fluke, of course,
> but there seem to be enough encoder candidates out there such that it will
> be awhile before I try that one again.
> r
>
>
>
> "Nicolas Calimet" <pov### [at] freefr> wrote in message
> news:39FDB1CF.6DB2BD63@free.fr...
> > <french>
> > Salut Simon ;-)
> > </french>
> >
> > >         I have been using mpeg2encode for a few months now and this is
> the only tool
> > > I've used at all for encoding MPEG from pictures.
> > >
> > > I was wondering two things,
> > >  1) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting a
> good
> > > animation for the IRTC. (ie: valid encryption)
> > >  2) what are the software for linux that are capable of encrypting an
> animation
> > > with the Best quality of frames and still a bit of compression (I'm
> talking
> > > about mpeg, not avi...)
> >
> > What's wrong with the MSSG encoder ? What do you mean by valid encoding
?
> > The mpeg2encode tool is supposed to give you "valid" files since it has
> been
> > used for the test models of the MPEG Commitee.
> > There are several ways to improve quality of an encoding, in general
> > sense, not only with this tools. Parameters depend on which models you
> want
> > to use (MPEG-1 or 2), the bitrate you need, the type of source (TV caps,
> CG
> > animation, ...) and much more. I could manage having correct results in
> MPEG-2
> > with this tool while tweaking default parameters carefully.
> > Under Linux, I don't know much good softs for encoding, but there's
> > one that rules in Windows platform: TMPGEnc. It's free until now, best
> quality
> > ever - even commercial softs can't cope with it. Produces
> VCD/SVCD/DVD(NTSC)-
> > compliant video streams. It's a japanese soft, but there are english
> ressources
> > for it (patch) until the author switch to an english version (should be
> the
> > next release).
> >
> > Current TMPGEnc website:          www.yks.ne.jp/~hori/TMPGEnc.html
> > Future location (not ready yet):  www.tmpgenc.com
> > English ressources:               www.jamsoft.com/tmpgenc/ [check this
one
> first]
> >
> > Note: I posted similar infos in p.unix a few months ago in the
> > "mpeg_encode Berkeley" thread (2000-08-20)
> >
> > Believe me, you should try it, it's also very fast. Input in from AVI
> > stream, but you can easily make it from TGA files.
> > This soft, a few other tools, and DVD players are the only reason for
> > me to keep windoze on my PC ;-)
> >
> >
> > *** Nicolas Calimet
> > *** http://pov4grasp.free.fr
>
>


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