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From: Warp
Subject: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 3 May 2000 10:02:54
Message: <3910318d@news.povray.org>
gt_city.jpg by Gilles Tran is the most photorealistic image I have ever
seen made with povray. Just amazing. I'm speechless.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 3 May 2000 10:48:19
Message: <39103BBF.EF96763E@pacbell.net>
Warp wrote:
> 
>   gt_city.jpg by Gilles Tran is the most photorealistic image I have ever
> seen made with povray. Just amazing. I'm speechless.

I couldn't agree more. He posted it in the French groups about a week
ago and when I saw it I wore out the translator at bablefish trying
to find out if it was rendered of if he had actually raytraced it.
Damn he's good...

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From: Philippe JACQUEROUX
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 3 May 2000 16:35:18
Message: <39108d86$1@news.povray.org>
True, fist time i saw it ,  i think "who is that guy who post a real
picture? is that a joke...
then i see that it was  G.Tran raytraced pic..This guy is out of contest, he
is just far the best for now..
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>   gt_city.jpg by Gilles Tran is the most photorealistic image I have ever
> seen made with povray. Just amazing. I'm speechless.
>
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> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 4 May 2000 02:14:54
Message: <3911155D.8C75AC57@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
"Philippe.JACQUEROUX" wrote:
> 
> True, fist time i saw it ,  i think "who is that guy who post a real
> picture? is that a joke...
> then i see that it was  G.Tran raytraced pic..This guy is out of contest, he
> is just far the best for now..

Funny that's nearly the same that I thought. I looked through the
previews and
saw a promising pic. I opened the full size version and there it was ...
My first thought: a photo
My second thought: some %$&^$%& using some hyper tool and a scene which
has been
made long before ...
Then I looked at the name of the artist ... ... ...
Could make me stop raytracing!

Marc

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 4 May 2000 02:59:19
Message: <39111F40.EC4A5CAB@pacbell.net>
Ken wrote:
> to find out if it was rendered of if he had actually raytraced it.

I must have been asleep when I wrote that. Should have read

"to find out if it was a picture or if he had actually raytraced it".

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From: Patrick Joyal
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 4 May 2000 09:15:37
Message: <391177f9$1@news.povray.org>
Unlike you, I didn't stop at the name of the artist... I've read how
he did it, and 90% of the objects in the scene were already made by other
artists, and it uses a lot of image maps.

It's a really good image, though. (the effect for the wet asphalt are
stunning)
But let's not get impressed too much, it was not actually that hard to do.
(for
him, anyway)

think about it...

Patrick

Marc Schimmler wrote in message <3911155D.8C75AC57@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>...
>"Philippe.JACQUEROUX" wrote:
>>
>> True, fist time i saw it ,  i think "who is that guy who post a real
>> picture? is that a joke...
>> then i see that it was  G.Tran raytraced pic..This guy is out of contest,
he
>> is just far the best for now..
>
>Funny that's nearly the same that I thought. I looked through the
>previews and
>saw a promising pic. I opened the full size version and there it was ...
>My first thought: a photo
>My second thought: some %$&^$%& using some hyper tool and a scene which
>has been
>made long before ...
>Then I looked at the name of the artist ... ... ...
>Could make me stop raytracing!
>
>Marc
>
>--
>Marc Schimmler


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 4 May 2000 09:51:05
Message: <39118049.CC5C8273@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Patrick Joyal wrote:
> 
> Unlike you, I didn't stop at the name of the artist... I've read how
> he did it, and 90% of the objects in the scene were already made by other
> artists, and it uses a lot of image maps.
> 
> It's a really good image, though. (the effect for the wet asphalt are
> stunning)
> But let's not get impressed too much, it was not actually that hard to do.
> (for
> him, anyway)
> 
> think about it...
> 

And it's still very difficult to do. Even or especially with image maps.
And look at the taillights.
True he uses models by others but even this is difficult.
The overall effect is stunning

Marc

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From: Vahur Krouverk
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 4 May 2000 10:17:44
Message: <391186F1.BFCB2B7B@aetec.ee>
Patrick Joyal wrote:
> 
> Unlike you, I didn't stop at the name of the artist... I've read how
> he did it, and 90% of the objects in the scene were already made by other
> artists, and it uses a lot of image maps.
> 
> It's a really good image, though. (the effect for the wet asphalt are
> stunning)
> But let's not get impressed too much, it was not actually that hard to do.
> (for
> him, anyway)
> 
> think about it...
> 
> Patrick
> 

It ain't sin to use image maps. Some of pure-povists may not agree with
this, but if one wants make good image, then image maps have their role.
In "Advanced RM" it is written, that folks at Pixar first thought, that
procedural shaders is the "only and true" way to go, but reality made
its own corrections, now most of texturing is made with texture maps.
Same is with reuse of objects: there is no point to do everything from
scratch, better would be to learn from others work and reuse it. As
someone said: "If I have one apple and you have apple and we exchange
them, then we still have one apple each. But if I have idea and you have
idea and we exchange them, then we have both 2 ideas!"
Gilles can create good (detailed) pictures, in short time and this is
thank to reuse of previously created objects, others work, good tools
and last but not least experience, skill and talent.


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 4 May 2000 10:44:27
Message: <39118ccb@news.povray.org>
I hadn't really thought of it as photorealistic - my main thought was that
it was one of the few raytraced pics I'd seen where the human figure worked
in closeup.

My only criticism would be (and it would be irrelevant on a lesser image) is
that the tail-lights don't throw enough light on the asphalt - I'm guessing
that they are high-ambient rather than actual lights.

And, yes, it is a very beautiful image.


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: The most photorealistic image ever
Date: 6 May 2000 07:32:21
Message: <391402c5@news.povray.org>
Was it naive to suppose that the full source of this magnificent image could
be found in the accompanying zip ? :(

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>   gt_city.jpg by Gilles Tran is the most photorealistic image I have ever
> seen made with povray. Just amazing. I'm speechless.


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