Ken wrote:
> 
> Josh English wrote:
> >
> > I am have a problem with my phone lines at home and can't get a dial
> > tone, so I can't submit my IRTC entry without lugging the computer to a
> > friends house. I'm in Portland Oregon, USA and I know the deadline is
> > tonight, but it is my local midnight or midnight at the server? If
> > local, I have a chance, if not, I might not be able to submit my entry
> > in time. I won't even get home until 7pm tonight.
> >
> > When exactly is the deadline?
> 
> I seem to recall that the deadline is for midnight pacific standard
> time - which is coincidentally the same time zone you are in. Even
> if you are a couple of hours late they will probably accept it. I
> also seem to recall something from the submissions info page about
> the IRTC admin who reviews submissions not doing anything with them
> until the following morning, after his coffee so, there is some time
> buffered into the system.
> 
> If I am wrong about this someone please correct me.

From the stills faq -

[1.2.13] What's the precise end of the submission period? 

         Unless otherwise noted, the submission period continues through the
         last day of the round, which is normally the last day of the second
         month of the round. The official precise end of the submission period
         is 11:59:59 PM US Pacific Time on that day. 

[1.2.14] My rendering won't be finished until 2am the day after submission is
         closed--what can I do?
 
         The actual drop-dead moment is the instant that we generate the voting
         forms based on the images we have at that point. While we sometimes
         accept late entries, we never guarantee any extensions. Please always
         try to get your entry submitted well before the deadline.

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Thanks. I skimmed the FAQ, but obvously not close enough.

I really hate lugging my computer around....

Josh

Ken wrote:

> Ken wrote:
> >
> > Josh English wrote:
> > >
> > > I am have a problem with my phone lines at home and can't get a dial
> > > tone, so I can't submit my IRTC entry without lugging the computer to a
> > > friends house. I'm in Portland Oregon, USA and I know the deadline is
> > > tonight, but it is my local midnight or midnight at the server? If
> > > local, I have a chance, if not, I might not be able to submit my entry
> > > in time. I won't even get home until 7pm tonight.
> > >
> > > When exactly is the deadline?
> >
> > I seem to recall that the deadline is for midnight pacific standard
> > time - which is coincidentally the same time zone you are in. Even
> > if you are a couple of hours late they will probably accept it. I
> > also seem to recall something from the submissions info page about
> > the IRTC admin who reviews submissions not doing anything with them
> > until the following morning, after his coffee so, there is some time
> > buffered into the system.
> >
> > If I am wrong about this someone please correct me.
>
> From the stills faq -
>
> [1.2.13] What's the precise end of the submission period?
>
>          Unless otherwise noted, the submission period continues through the
>          last day of the round, which is normally the last day of the second
>          month of the round. The official precise end of the submission period
>          is 11:59:59 PM US Pacific Time on that day.
>
> [1.2.14] My rendering won't be finished until 2am the day after submission is
>          closed--what can I do?
>
>          The actual drop-dead moment is the instant that we generate the voting
>          forms based on the images we have at that point. While we sometimes
>          accept late entries, we never guarantee any extensions. Please always
>          try to get your entry submitted well before the deadline.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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Josh English wrote:

> Thanks. I skimmed the FAQ, but obvously not close enough.
>
> I really hate lugging my computer around....

Your pic's in the winvote archives, so something must have worked :)

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Yeah. I had to take my computer to a friends house and upload it from
there. I made it in time.I really hate how my phone conks out when I
need to use it. The wires in the apartment building are crossed with my
neighbors, and the apartment owner is too cheap to rewire the place.

Josh

Simon de Vet wrote:

> Josh English wrote:
>
> > Thanks. I skimmed the FAQ, but obvously not close enough.
> >
> > I really hate lugging my computer around....
>
> Your pic's in the winvote archives, so something must have worked :)

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Josh English wrote:
> 
> Yeah. I had to take my computer to a friends house and upload it from
> there. I made it in time.I really hate how my phone conks out when I
> need to use it. The wires in the apartment building are crossed with my
> neighbors, and the apartment owner is too cheap to rewire the place.
> 
> Josh

 I don't know about where you live but here in California it is a law
that apartment owners MUST keep the telephone wiring inside tenant
buildings in good working order. Your state may have similar laws
protecting your rights to reliable telephone service. If you live
in such a place it might behoove you to point out this fact to your
slum lord. If you needed medical assistance and could not reach
help over the phone because the wiring was not in good repair it
would put your slum lord in a position of liability.

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USA, Oregon, Portland

Ken wrote:
>
>  I don't know about where you live but here in California it is a law
> that apartment owners MUST keep the telephone wiring inside tenant
> buildings in good working order. Your state may have similar laws
> protecting your rights to reliable telephone service. If you live
> in such a place it might behoove you to point out this fact to your
> slum lord. If you needed medical assistance and could not reach
> help over the phone because the wiring was not in good repair it
> would put your slum lord in a position of liability.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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than the reality of the appearance."
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"mr.art" wrote:
> 
> USA, Oregon, Portland

He mentioned that in his original post, Art.

 Where I said " I don't know about where you live but here in California..."
what meant to imply is I don't know if the laws where you live are the same
but here they give you certain rights. I already knew where he lives but not
the laws that apply in his home state.


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On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:17:46 -0800, Ken wrote:
>
>
>"mr.art" wrote:
>> 
>> USA, Oregon, Portland
>
>He mentioned that in his original post, Art.
>
> Where I said " I don't know about where you live but here in California..."
>what meant to imply is I don't know if the laws where you live are the same
>but here they give you certain rights. I already knew where he lives but not
>the laws that apply in his home state.

Here you're not allowd to touch the phone lines, even inside your own building.
The phone lines belong to the telecos. You can do what you want with the 
power lines, the water and to some extent the gas, but touching the phone lines
is a big NoNo.  And with laws like this we wonder why BT still have a manopoly.

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Steve wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 22:17:46 -0800, Ken wrote:
> >
> >
> >"mr.art" wrote:
> >>
> >> USA, Oregon, Portland
> >
> >He mentioned that in his original post, Art.
> >
> > Where I said " I don't know about where you live but here in California..."
> >what meant to imply is I don't know if the laws where you live are the same
> >but here they give you certain rights. I already knew where he lives but not
> >the laws that apply in his home state.
> 
> Here you're not allowd to touch the phone lines, even inside your own building.
> The phone lines belong to the telecos. You can do what you want with the
> power lines, the water and to some extent the gas, but touching the phone lines
> is a big NoNo.  And with laws like this we wonder why BT still have a manopoly.

Here the phone companies own the wires from their main service buiding all
the way to where they enter your building. Any wire inside your building
is now your responisibility to maintain. They will of course repair your
wiringing for you, for a price, or you can do it yourself, or hire an
outside contracter to do it for you. This came from the break up of AT&T
and the Bell Telephone monopoly.

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US West will cover the lines that go from the outside into the main switchbox
in the basement, where you can see the wires as they were installed by
decade. They say it's the building owners responsibity to keep the wires in
good condition from there up to each apartment. I have two phone jacks that
are daisy chained together and they enter the wall in my kitchen, and for the
past two years I can hear my neighbor when he's on the phone. When he gets a
phone call my phone "chirps" and I frequently come home to an answering
maching recording dial tones from it.

I plan on moving soon. I have other problems with the place. Like the hot
water in my bathroom sink turns on then I hear a "clunk" and the water slows
to a trickle. I put up with it because I don't have much of a backbone. The
next tenant will probably raise quite a fuss.

Josh

Ken wrote:

>  I don't know about where you live but here in California it is a law
> that apartment owners MUST keep the telephone wiring inside tenant
> buildings in good working order. Your state may have similar laws
> protecting your rights to reliable telephone service. If you live
> in such a place it might behoove you to point out this fact to your
> slum lord. If you needed medical assistance and could not reach
> help over the phone because the wiring was not in good repair it
> would put your slum lord in a position of liability.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.htmlhttp://www.povray.org/links/

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