Sorry for that stupid question, but from France, I don't really figure what
Pacific Time is. Could you please give the equivalent in GMT ?

Thanks

Estelle, Rennes, France

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Estelle Gargatte wrote:

> Pacific Time is. Could you please give the equivalent in GMT ?

It is GMT - 7. That means if you live in GMT+1 and your clock shows
13.00 pm it is 5 am in PDT time zone (I just learned this too!).

I hope this helps,

Marc

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Institut fuer Computeranwendungen
Universitaet Stuttgart

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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:50:59 +0100, Marc Schimmler 
	<sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:
>Estelle Gargatte wrote:
>
>> Pacific Time is. Could you please give the equivalent in GMT ?
>
>It is GMT - 7. That means if you live in GMT+1 and your clock shows
>13.00 pm it is 5 am in PDT time zone (I just learned this too!).

Those places in the US where Daylight Savings Time is observed
stop observing it ("fall back") on the last Sunday in October.  
This means that "Pacific Time" currently means "Pacific 
Standard Time", which is GMT-8.  This will continue to be true 
until the first Sunday in April, when the barbarians will once 
more begin observing Daylight Savings Time and will "spring 
forward" to GMT-7.  

For the sake of everyone involved, I'll suppress my standard 
rant about how much productivity this 18th-century practice 
costs us twice a year as people miss appointments and deadlines
because they forgot to reset one of the approximately twelve
billion clocks in the average American house.

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Ron Parker wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:50:59 +0100, Marc Schimmler
>         <sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:
> >It is GMT - 7. That means if you live in GMT+1 and your clock shows
> >13.00 pm it is 5 am in PDT time zone (I just learned this too!).
> 
> Those places in the US where Daylight Savings Time is observed
> stop observing it ("fall back") on the last Sunday in October.
> This means that "Pacific Time" currently means "Pacific
> Standard Time", which is GMT-8.  This will continue to be true
> until the first Sunday in April, when the barbarians will once
> more begin observing Daylight Savings Time and will "spring
> forward" to GMT-7.
> 

Thank you for the correction!

>
> For the sake of everyone involved, I'll suppress my standard
> rant about how much productivity this 18th-century practice
> costs us twice a year as people miss appointments and deadlines
> because they forgot to reset one of the approximately twelve
> billion clocks in the average American house.

So this nonsense is practised everywhere! 
Try to tell your children that everything is now one hour earlier (or
later?).

Marc

-- 
Marc Schimmler
Institut fuer Computeranwendungen
Universitaet Stuttgart

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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:10:09 +0100, Marc Schimmler 
	<sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:
>Ron Parker wrote:
>> For the sake of everyone involved, I'll suppress my standard
>> rant about how much productivity this 18th-century practice
>> costs us twice a year as people miss appointments and deadlines
>> because they forgot to reset one of the approximately twelve
>> billion clocks in the average American house.
>
>So this nonsense is practised everywhere! 
>Try to tell your children that everything is now one hour earlier (or
>later?).

Not everywhere.  Most of Indiana has been a bastion of sanity since 
WWII, but our elected "leaders" keep trying to change that.

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To further clarify deadlines for entry into the IRTC:

Stills are 11:59:59 GMT minus 7 hours, last day of second month, for the 
March/April through July/August topics.

Animations are 11:59:59 GMT minus 7 hours, 15th day of the last month, for 
January to April, April to July, and July to October topic rounds.

Stills are 11:59:59 GMT minus 8 hours, last day of second month, for the 
September/October through January/February topics.

Animations 11:59:59 GMT minus 8 hours, 15th day of the last month, for only 
the October to January topic round.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

(Note: GMT is Greenwich Meridian Time also known as Universal Time or UT)

Examples (possible errors due to outdated/misinterpreted information):

GMT - 12:00 Kwajelein Atoll, Marshall Islands
GMT - 11:00 Midway Islands, (US?)
GMT - 10:00 Hawaii, USA
GMT - 9:00  Alaska, USA
GMT - 8:00  Pacific Time (US and Canada)
GMT - 7:00  Mountain Time (US and Canada)
GMT - 6:00  Mexico City, Mexico
GMT - 5:00  Eastern Time (US and Canada)
GMT - 5:00  Indiana (East), USA
GMT - 4:00  Caracas, Venezuela (-4:30?)
GMT - 3:45  Georgetown, British Guiana
GMT - 3:30  Island of Newfoundland, Newfoundland
GMT - 3:00  Brasilia, Brazil
GMT - 2:00  Tel Aviv, Israel
GMT - 1:00  Sao Tiago, Cape Verde Islands
GMT - 0:00  London, England
GMT + 1:00  Paris, France
GMT + 2:00  Eastern Europe
GMT + 3:00  Moscow, Russia
GMT + 3:30  Tehran, Iran
GMT + 4:30  Kabul, Afghanistan
GMT + 4:00  Masqat, Muscat(?)
GMT + 5:00  Karachi, Pakistan
GMT + 5:30  New Delhi, India
GMT + 6:00  Dahka (Dacca?), Pakistan East(?)
GMT + 7:00  Hanoi,Vietnam
GMT + 8:00  Hong Kong, China
GMT + 9:00  Tokyo, Japan
GMT + 9:30  Darwin, Australia
GMT + 10:00 Sydney, Australia
GMT + 11:00 Solomon Islands, Melanesia
GMT + 12:00 Wellington, New Zealand

Message <363dc898.0@news.povray.org>, Ron Parker typed...
>
>On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:50:59 +0100, Marc Schimmler 
>        <sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:
>>Estelle Gargatte wrote:
>>
>>> Pacific Time is. Could you please give the equivalent in GMT ?
>>
>>It is GMT - 7. That means if you live in GMT+1 and your clock shows
>>13.00 pm it is 5 am in PDT time zone (I just learned this too!).
>
>Those places in the US where Daylight Savings Time is observed
>stop observing it ("fall back") on the last Sunday in October.  
>This means that "Pacific Time" currently means "Pacific 
>Standard Time", which is GMT-8.  This will continue to be true 
>until the first Sunday in April, when the barbarians will once 
>more begin observing Daylight Savings Time and will "spring 
>forward" to GMT-7.  

-- 
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=Bob

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ver### [at] aolcom (=Bob) writes:

> (Note: GMT is Greenwich Meridian Time also known as Universal Time or UT)

  Not quite: 0:00 GMT is 12:00 UT (noon), while 0:00 UT is midnight and
12:00 GMT.  (Oh man, don't tell me you're confused...  Nobody uses the
12-hour-cycles anymore, do they?)

Roland.
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English speakers call me Rowlannd' Mass,
Nihongode hanasu hitoha [Lolando Masu] to iimasu.
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Ron Parker wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:50:59 +0100, Marc Schimmler
>         <sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:
> >Estelle Gargatte wrote:
> >
> >> Pacific Time is. Could you please give the equivalent in GMT ?
> >
> >It is GMT - 7. That means if you live in GMT+1 and your clock shows
> >13.00 pm it is 5 am in PDT time zone (I just learned this too!).
>
> Those places in the US where Daylight Savings Time is observed
> stop observing it ("fall back") on the last Sunday in October.
> This means that "Pacific Time" currently means "Pacific
> Standard Time", which is GMT-8.  This will continue to be true
> until the first Sunday in April, when the barbarians will once
> more begin observing Daylight Savings Time and will "spring
> forward" to GMT-7.
>
> For the sake of everyone involved, I'll suppress my standard
> rant about how much productivity this 18th-century practice
> costs us twice a year as people miss appointments and deadlines
> because they forgot to reset one of the approximately twelve
> billion clocks in the average American house.

  My average amrican home does not have 12 billion clocks.
Perhaps a dozen is all.

Ken Tyler

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"Estelle Gargatte" <est### [at] rennessemafr> wrote:

>Sorry for that stupid question, but from France, I don't really figure what
>Pacific Time is. Could you please give the equivalent in GMT ?

This URL -

  http://www.whitepages.com.au/time.shtml

will, I believe, allow you to find out what time - in your local area - any
other given time in the world is, and vice versa. Just enter USA/California in
the top, and your area in the bottom.

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On 3 Nov 1998 00:17:10 -0500, =Bob <ver### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>To further clarify deadlines for entry into the IRTC:

[...]

>Please correct me if I am wrong.

The FAQ clearly states that the deadlines are Pacific Time.  It
just doesn't specify whether they mean Pacific Standard Time or 
Pacific Daylight Time, so I'm assuming they mean whichever is 
current.

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