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I put POV-Ray in the system tray during a long render. Now I cannot
see it to check on the progress. Using Task Manager I can see that
pvengine.exe is running in the Processes tab but not in the
Applications tab. Just before this occurred iexplorer crashed and now
Task Manager does not show in the system tray either. It looks like a
reboot to me but I don't want to stop a render that has been running
for 10 hours or so. Any advice?
Regards
Stephen
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:47:04 +0000, Stephen McAvoy <mca### [at] aol com>
wrote:
> Any advice?
Forgot to mention I'm running XP SP1
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen McAvoy wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:47:04 +0000, Stephen McAvoy <mca### [at] aolcom>
> wrote:
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>>Any advice?
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> Forgot to mention I'm running XP SP1
>
> Regards
> Stephen
In XP there's a chevron next to the notification area . Click it and it
will expand the notification area showing all icons, it could have been
hidden because it was "inactive" However,
I don't know if IExplore took explorer down with it, but if it did:
go to http://www.sysinternals.com and download process explorer. Unzip
it, run it, find the PVENGINE process and right-click. Choose bring to
front.
--
~Mike
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> In XP there's a chevron next to the notification area . Click it and it
> will expand the notification area showing all icons, it could have been
> hidden because it was "inactive" However,
>
> I don't know if IExplore took explorer down with it, but if it did:
>
> go to http://www.sysinternals.com and download process explorer. Unzip
> it, run it, find the PVENGINE process and right-click. Choose bring to
> front.
Occasionally the chevron will be gone; I think there's a bug in Windows
causing this, especially after the volume icon is clicked. If the
chevron is gone, there's a simpler solution. I discovered this yesterday
after spending the better part of an hour trying to open up POV that I
had set on High priority and then put in the tray. Since the priority
was so high it wouldn't respond to clicks on the taskbar. I could barely
open up the Task Manager.
All you have to do is browse through Windows Explorer to your POV-Ray
installation directory and open pvengine.exe. If you have "Keep Single
Instance" checked, POV-Ray will immediately come up - the same one that
was in the tray just a few seconds ago. No render interruptions. If you
don't have the Single Instance option checked and a *new* POV program
comes up, check the option (found on the Options menu), exit that POV
instance and reopen it. It *should* open up the instance that's hidden
in your taskbar.
Hope it works...I know all about that "I don't want to lose this looong
render!!" feeling. :) (I currently have one running that's been chugging
for approximately 3 days, 1 hour and 17 minutes!)
~Mike
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:02:32 -0600, Mike Raiford
<mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>go to http://www.sysinternals.com and download process explorer. Unzip
>it, run it, find the PVENGINE process and right-click. Choose bring to
>front.
Great, thanks that did it. Nice utility Process Explorer.
As for PovRay 33% done after 8 2/3 hrs. Why on earth did I want to use
Radiosity?
Regards
Stephen
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 00:22:29 -0800, Mike Thorn
<mik### [at] realitycheckmultimediacom> wrote:
>All you have to do is browse through Windows Explorer to your POV-Ray
>installation directory and open pvengine.exe. If you have "Keep Single
>Instance" checked, POV-Ray will immediately come up - the same one that
>was in the tray just a few seconds ago. No render interruptions. If you
>don't have the Single Instance option checked and a *new* POV program
>comes up, check the option (found on the Options menu), exit that POV
>instance and reopen it. It *should* open up the instance that's hidden
>in your taskbar.
Thanks I remember this
>Hope it works...I know all about that "I don't want to lose this looong
>render!!" feeling. :) (I currently have one running that's been chugging
>for approximately 3 days, 1 hour and 17 minutes!)
Wish I had the patience :-)
Or a second machine to just render on.
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen McAvoy wrote:
> I put POV-Ray in the system tray during a long render. Now I cannot
> see it to check on the progress. Using Task Manager I can see that
> pvengine.exe is running in the Processes tab but not in the
> Applications tab. Just before this occurred iexplorer crashed and now
> Task Manager does not show in the system tray either. It looks like a
> reboot to me but I don't want to stop a render that has been running
> for 10 hours or so. Any advice?
>
> Regards
> Stephen
This is EXACTLY why I installed Linux on my system - one of the greatest
motivators was stability during rendering.
Have you considered partitioning off 5GB or so and installing a Linux
distribution there expressly for rendering? This is exactly what I have
done - I still design scenes in Windows, but then render them in Linux - I
have often left traces running for weeks at a time in it. Modern
distributions are a snap to install and setup, and Povray runs like a charm
on my RedHat 9 system. One caveat though is that most Linux distributions
(as far as I know) still can't reliably read or write NTFS - which is why I
expressly installed XP with a FAT32 filesystem. This allows full
compatibilty - I design and finalize in Windows, then crank up Linux and
with one minimal ini-file change I render, in Linux, on the Windows
partition, using the scene just as it is. You just have to take a little
care with how you specify paths, as those can cause a bit of problems. But
otherwise, great!
--
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician
Polar Design Solutions
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Stephen McAvoy wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 00:22:29 -0800, Mike Thorn
> <mik### [at] realitycheckmultimediacom> wrote:
>
>>All you have to do is browse through Windows Explorer to your POV-Ray
>>installation directory and open pvengine.exe. If you have "Keep Single
>>Instance" checked, POV-Ray will immediately come up - the same one that
>>Hope it works...I know all about that "I don't want to lose this looong
>>render!!" feeling. :) (I currently have one running that's been chugging
>>for approximately 3 days, 1 hour and 17 minutes!)
>
> Wish I had the patience :-)
> Or a second machine to just render on.
I feel like a tortoise - I must have a very slow system (old 1.8GHz P4) -
and most of what I consider "nice" scenes I have done often took a week or
more... without radiosity!
Darn - gotta find some $$$ to upgrade (again...)
--
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician
Polar Design Solutions
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Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> Stephen McAvoy wrote:
>
>
>>I put POV-Ray in the system tray during a long render. Now I cannot
>>see it to check on the progress. Using Task Manager I can see that
>>pvengine.exe is running in the Processes tab but not in the
>>Applications tab. Just before this occurred iexplorer crashed and now
>>Task Manager does not show in the system tray either. It looks like a
>>reboot to me but I don't want to stop a render that has been running
>>for 10 hours or so. Any advice?
>>
>>Regards
>> Stephen
>
>
> This is EXACTLY why I installed Linux on my system - one of the greatest
> motivators was stability during rendering.
>
> Have you considered partitioning off 5GB or so and installing a Linux
> distribution there expressly for rendering? This is exactly what I have
> done - I still design scenes in Windows, but then render them in Linux - I
> have often left traces running for weeks at a time in it. Modern
> distributions are a snap to install and setup, and Povray runs like a charm
> on my RedHat 9 system. One caveat though is that most Linux distributions
> (as far as I know) still can't reliably read or write NTFS - which is why I
> expressly installed XP with a FAT32 filesystem. This allows full
> compatibilty - I design and finalize in Windows, then crank up Linux and
> with one minimal ini-file change I render, in Linux, on the Windows
> partition, using the scene just as it is. You just have to take a little
> care with how you specify paths, as those can cause a bit of problems. But
> otherwise, great!
Gee, that's a good idea. I have a few extra gigabytes I could split off.
The only reason I wouldn't like that is that it would make it difficult
to run some of my Windows apps (HotSync for my Palm, etc) during a
render. (tho I use Thunderbird and Firefox for all my web stuff so
that's not an issue.) I've already learned the hard way to only use
"safe" apps and play "stable" games while a render is running. :)
I was also under the general impression that Linux has a smaller RAM
footprint than WinXP (what I run on my main PC)...is this true? That
could speed things up a bit. My 1Ghz Athlon runs faster than our 1.1Ghz
P4 just because of the extra 512MB RAM I have in it, but of course it's
not all wholly available no matter what OS you're running.
~Mike
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