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Dear All,
Is there an up-to-date command line version of POV-Ray available,
(executable for MS Windows)?
The GUI seems to have the queue limited to 300 entries.
I do not want to call the GUI with the command line
parameters for thousands of frames.
Thanks,
Maciej
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: up-to-date command line version
Date: 6 Oct 2003 06:12:03
Message: <3f813ff3@news.povray.org>
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In article <3f8133bb$1@news.povray.org> , Maciej <wet### [at] poczta onetpl>
wrote:
> Is there an up-to-date command line version of POV-Ray available,
> (executable for MS Windows)?
There is no such official version, only unofficial versions, but those are
not compiled with state-of-the-art compilers like the official Windows
version. But you can call the official Windows version via the command-line
just fine.
> The GUI seems to have the queue limited to 300 entries.
> I do not want to call the GUI with the command line
> parameters for thousands of frames.
If you are rendering an animation, what is preventing you from using "clock"
like everybody else does?
Thorsten
____________________________________________________
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e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg
I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:23:37 +0200, Maciej <wet### [at] pocztaonetpl> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Is there an up-to-date command line version of POV-Ray available,
> (executable for MS Windows)?
You can call GUI version from command line. In case you do not want splash
screen you can google for QuietPOV.
> The GUI seems to have the queue limited to 300 entries.
I do not remember such limitation but who knows...
> I do not want to call the GUI with the command line
> parameters for thousands of frames.
I do not understand above sentence. In 300 entries do you mean 300 frames of
one animation ? Then you can render it at once as 1 entry using animation
options.
If you see any language problems feel free to ask in Polish in
povray.international using [pl] at subject begining.
Regards, ABX
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>>Is there an up-to-date command line version of POV-Ray available,
>>(executable for MS Windows)?
>
> There is no such official version, only unofficial versions, but those are
> not compiled with state-of-the-art compilers like the official Windows
> version.
Where can I get unofficial versions? :-)
>>The GUI seems to have the queue limited to 300 entries.
>>I do not want to call the GUI with the command line
>>parameters for thousands of frames.
>
> If you are rendering an animation, what is preventing you from using "clock"
> like everybody else does?
AFAIK "clock" is just a variable with subsequent values...
In my case, every frame is quite different and produced
by an external program.
Maciej
ps. I'd call GUI if it only had a switch "do not start GUI" :-)
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:39:10 +0200, Maciej <wet### [at] pocztaonetpl> wrote:
> Where can I get unofficial versions? :-)
For example: http://megapov.inetart.net/
> AFAIK "clock" is just a variable with subsequent values...
> In my case, every frame is quite different and produced
> by an external program.
You can use one file to boundle all 300 frames into one:
//begin file
#include concat("frame",str(frame_number,0,0),".inc")
//end file
> ps. I'd call GUI if it only had a switch "do not start GUI" :-)
Look into manual for details about your wishes, there is platform dedicated
chapter number one.
ABX
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>>The GUI seems to have the queue limited to 300 entries.
>
> I do not remember such limitation but who knows...
I just checked:
1. Windows limits selecting multiple files in the
"Open" system dialog
2. POV-Ray limits the queue to 512 entries.
Maciej
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> If you are rendering an animation, what is preventing you from using
"clock"
> like everybody else does?
Not everybody uses clock!
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> You can use one file to boundle all 300 frames into one:
>
> //begin file
> #include concat("frame",str(frame_number,0,0),".inc")
> //end file
Yes, that is true, this IS a workaround and it is
different from calling a command-line program
that everybody is used to do :-)
Thanks,
Maciej
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ABX <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote in
news:8bh2ov4k550nqbn4eu2jsvibl9vcl7m3cj@4ax.com:
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>> ps. I'd call GUI if it only had a switch "do not start GUI" :-)
>
> Look into manual for details about your wishes, there is platform
> dedicated chapter number one.
>
> ABX
AFAICT, that is not documented or possible.
--
Tom
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http://www.imp.org/
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:45:31 +0200, Maciej <wet### [at] pocztaonetpl> wrote:
> 2. POV-Ray limits the queue to 512 entries.
Indeed, I see it,
#define MAX_QUEUE 512
in pvguiext.h.
So you can recompile it for your needs with highier MAX_QUEUE setting.
ABX
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:10:50 +0200, Maciej <wet### [at] pocztaonetpl> wrote:
> > //begin file
> > #include concat("frame",str(frame_number,0,0),".inc")
> > //end file
>
> Yes, that is true, this IS a workaround
No. It is as solution. :-)
ABX
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On 6 Oct 2003 07:22:26 -0400, Tom Galvin <tom### [at] imporg> wrote:
> > > ps. I'd call GUI if it only had a switch "do not start GUI" :-)
> > Look into manual for details about your wishes, there is platform
> > dedicated chapter number one.
>
> AFAICT, that is not documented or possible.
See two threads earlier for subject "POV Ray with Emacs and command line"
ABX
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> Indeed, I see it,
>
> #define MAX_QUEUE 512
>
> in pvguiext.h.
>
> So you can recompile it for your needs with highier MAX_QUEUE setting.
Yes, but why is this limit needed?
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>>>//begin file
>>> #include concat("frame",str(frame_number,0,0),".inc")
>>>//end file
>>
>>Yes, that is true, this IS a workaround
>
> No. It is as solution. :-)
I just found a solution... nice mingw/console port,
Persistence of Vision(tm) Ray Tracer Version MegaPOV 1.0/ based on
Pov-RAY 3.5 Unix (.CYGWIN_NT-4.0.gcc) :-)
Thanks!
Maciej
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:55:32 +0200, Maciej <wet### [at] pocztaonetpl> wrote:
> > #define MAX_QUEUE 512
>
> Yes, but why is this limit needed?
To make development simpler and memory requirements less agressive ?
As long as it is customizable, it is not limit but kind of advanced setting
(available only for those with compilers :-) ). Analogically you are free to
ask Microsoft why "Windows limits selecting multiple files in the "Open"
system dialog" as you stated.
ABX
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ABX <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote in news:o3l2ovkk6uuu8g4fk098jo1s4l9480etpu@
4ax.com:
>
> See two threads earlier for subject "POV Ray with Emacs and command line"
>
> ABX
>
You can use the windows START command so that it runs minimized, and you
can configure POV-Ray so that it does not grab focus, but you will still
have a splash screen and a GUI.
--
Tom
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http://www.imp.org/
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Maciej <wet### [at] pocztaonetpl> wrote in news:3f8157a0@news.povray.org:
>
> I just found a solution... nice mingw/console port,
>
> Persistence of Vision(tm) Ray Tracer Version MegaPOV 1.0/ based on
> Pov-RAY 3.5 Unix (.CYGWIN_NT-4.0.gcc) :-)
>
>
It is not an official version, but many people in IMP use this and have
been very happy with it.
Thanks again Christoph!!!
--
Tom
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http://www.imp.org/
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On 6 Oct 2003 10:39:53 -0400, Tom Galvin <tom### [at] imporg> wrote:
> You can use the windows START command so that it runs minimized, and you
> can configure POV-Ray so that it does not grab focus, but you will still
> have a splash screen and a GUI.
Yes, and that's what I said in my first post in this thread :-)
ABX
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ABX <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote in
news:6pv2ovsafkm7ctn19k3sdqd6nfbpmsb4ce@4ax.com:
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> Yes, and that's what I said in my first post in this thread :-)
>
> ABX
>
You said "But you can call the official Windows version via the command-
line just fine." Which I understood.
You later said "Look into manual for details about your wishes," in
response to a request for a "do not start GUI" switch. This had me
scratching my head and rereading the docs looking for a switch I might have
missed.
I am just trying to show why I posted what I did. It is completely likely
that I have overlooked parts of POV-Ray that can make my life easier. I
thought this could have been one of those.
My apologies if I was unclear.
--
Tom
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http://www.imp.org/
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: up-to-date command line version
Date: 6 Oct 2003 15:06:59
Message: <3f81bd53@news.povray.org>
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In article <Xns### [at] 204213191226> , Tom Galvin
<tom### [at] imporg> wrote:
> You said "But you can call the official Windows version via the command-
> line just fine." Which I understood.
>
> You later said "Look into manual for details about your wishes," in
> response to a request for a "do not start GUI" switch. This had me
> scratching my head and rereading the docs looking for a switch I might have
> missed.
You are confusing the statements from two different people here...
Thorsten
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e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in
news:3f81bd53@news.povray.org:
> In article <Xns### [at] 204213191226> , Tom Galvin
> <tom### [at] imporg> wrote:
>
>> You said "But you can call the official Windows version via the
>> command- line just fine." Which I understood.
>>
>
> You are confusing the statements from two different people here...
>
You are correct, I copied from the wrong spot. ABX said "You can call GUI
version from command line".
My apologies again.
--
Tom
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>>>#define MAX_QUEUE 512
>>Yes, but why is this limit needed?
>
> To make development simpler and memory requirements less agressive ?
Perhaps it allocates 512 entries at once :>
> As long as it is customizable, it is not limit but kind of advanced setting
> (available only for those with compilers :-) ).
Yes, very advanced - compiling POV-Ray GUI with "your favorite"
MS Windows compiler is not simple I'm afraid...
> Analogically you are free to
> ask Microsoft why "Windows limits selecting multiple files in the "Open"
> system dialog" as you stated.
Yes, I'm asking that :-)
But I understand that the open window is not supposed to
pass 300+ file names, while the queue should allow for
large number of files...
Anyway, as there IS a command-line, I will use GUI only
for single or small numbers of files.
Have a nice day!
Maciej
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 17:13:20 +0200, Maciej <wet### [at] pocztaonetpl> wrote:
> > > >#define MAX_QUEUE 512
> > >Yes, but why is this limit needed?
> > To make development simpler and memory requirements less agressive ?
>
> Perhaps it allocates 512 entries at once :>
I meant that controlling statically allocated and not resizeable arrays is far
simpler when there are many more important changes to be done during
development. Making it resizable would be rarely used (iirc you are the first
person who noticed such problem). I suppose every development has compromises
between wishes, needs and free time.
> > As long as it is customizable, it is not limit but kind of advanced setting
> > (available only for those with compilers :-) ).
>
> Yes, very advanced - compiling POV-Ray GUI with "your favorite"
> MS Windows compiler is not simple I'm afraid...
But possible. And anybody who will ask how to do this with available free
compilers for win32 will receive answer from me. I managed to compile it with
probably all freely availble win32 compilers.
> Anyway, as there IS a command-line, I will use GUI only
> for single or small numbers of files.
You are probably confusing official and unofficial nature of those products
here. AFAIK official GUI development had support from Intel. This can be
important difference for longer renderings since Intel compiler produces
faster code than MinGW.
ABX
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