Whenever I've started a render, it's almost impossible to type in POV's editor.  Every
now
and then POV-Ray decides to take a nap for a few seconds, and during that period, I
can do
almost nothing with my computer.  However, when I restart POV-Ray, the problem seems
to be
solved.
I'm using POVMan 0.71.4, but I had the same problem with MegaPov 0.7.
Now, what I want to know is: did anyone have a similar problem, and is it fixed in
POV-Ray
3.5?

cu!
--
camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
<.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf

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I have the same problem with POV-Ray 3.5 on Win NT (SP 6), with a K6 processor.  I
think it happened under 3.1g as well but I don't recall clearly.


On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:06:13 +0100, "Zeger Knaepen"
<zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote:
> Whenever I've started a render, it's almost impossible to type in POV's editor. 
Every now
> and then POV-Ray decides to take a nap for a few seconds, and during that period, I
can do
> almost nothing with my computer.  However, when I restart POV-Ray, the problem seems
to be
> solved.
> I'm using POVMan 0.71.4, but I had the same problem with MegaPov 0.7.
> Now, what I want to know is: did anyone have a similar problem, and is it fixed in
POV-Ray
> 3.5?
> 
> cu!
> --
> camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
> ;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
> ;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
> <.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf
> 
>

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Setting the priority of pvengine.exe to Below Normal seems to help things
for me.  Ctrl+Alt+Delete to get to the Processes and right-click on the
executable (megapov.exe, whatever), Set Priority there.

I never had trouble in the beta of 3.5's CodeMax Editor even if I let things
be default but external programs will freeze on occasion if I don't tone
down POV-Ray in the Processes.  It really grabs all the CPU time or
something and even if I raise GUI priority via Render menu it doesn't take
much effect it seems.
I must say that even if lowering priority helps running adjacent programs I
can't say it would help the internal editor though.  I just don't see any
significant change in that regard so that's not something I can comment on.
You get into a whole render-time thing there by changing all that stuff, so
setting things the way you need is going to be a bit of personal preference.

Not really been a bad problem to me, maybe partly MHz related as to what is
seen.  I've a 800MHz P3 here.

bob h

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I have the same problem too.

Mick

"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in message
news:3c4e0c85@news.povray.org...
> Whenever I've started a render, it's almost impossible to type in POV's editor. 
Every now
> and then POV-Ray decides to take a nap for a few seconds, and during that period, I
can do
> almost nothing with my computer.  However, when I restart POV-Ray, the problem seems
to be
> solved.
> I'm using POVMan 0.71.4, but I had the same problem with MegaPov 0.7.
> Now, what I want to know is: did anyone have a similar problem, and is it fixed in
POV-Ray
> 3.5?
>
> cu!
> --
> camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
> ;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
> ;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
> <.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf
>
>

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> I have the same problem too.
I don't really understand why I'm the first one to complain about this, if I'm not the
only one having this problem?

cu!
--
camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
<.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf

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Perhaps because nobody else has XP?

Zeger Knaepen wrote:

> > I have the same problem too.
> I don't really understand why I'm the first one to complain about this, if I'm not
the
> only one having this problem?
>
> cu!
> --
> camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
> ;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
> ;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
> <.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf

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It only started with beta 10 and it's only just started to be an annoyance. at first I
thought it was just something to do with the
many processes I tend to have going at once but now it seems it's something to do with
pov.

Mick

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"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> a écrit dans le
message de news: 3c4e0c85@news.povray.org...
> Whenever I've started a render, it's almost impossible to type in POV's
editor.  Every now
> and then POV-Ray decides to take a nap for a few seconds, and during that
period, I can do
> almost nothing with my computer.  However, when I restart POV-Ray, the
problem seems to be
> solved.

I have had this problem for years with NT (since 3.1 at least, on several
machine) and reported it a few times but got no confirmation. Why nobody
seemed to mind until now is probably due that few people used NT, and if
this problem has spread to XP it may mean that it's eventually going to grab
someone's attention !

G.

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On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:27:17 +0100, "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote:
> I have had this problem for years with NT (since 3.1 at least, on several
> machine) and reported it a few times but got no confirmation. Why nobody
> seemed to mind until now is probably due that few people used NT, and if
> this problem has spread to XP it may mean that it's eventually going to grab
> someone's attention !

iirc I have confirmed this behaviour in answer to your post in some group (iirc
beta-test)

I always set povray to low priority on my NT. It helps avoid pauses in my case. 

Assumptions: For 3.5 I played a lot with insert menu and found that it takes
little time to load it. I wonder if it is some kind of dynamic resources and it
is loaded and unloaded time to time. There are bitmaps - perhaps they are
unallocated when memory is required to something and allocated again when povray
gets focus or insert menu gets hit.

ABX

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Gilles Tran wrote:
> 
> I have had this problem for years with NT (since 3.1 at least, on several
> machine) and reported it a few times but got no confirmation. Why nobody
> seemed to mind until now is probably due that few people used NT, and if
> this problem has spread to XP it may mean that it's eventually going to grab
> someone's attention !

I have never had such a problem unless i set the priority to more than
'Lower', the only somehow related problem i can think of is the 'long
delay when saving on network drive' problem, but that's something
different i think.

Christoph

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IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/

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On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:40:00 +0100, W�odzimierz ABX Skiba <abx### [at] babilonorg>
wrote:
> I always set povray to low priority on my NT.

Note I write about system priority, not native POV-Ray priority. When POV-Ray is
in lowest native priority but normal system priority then I can observe moments
of stagnation.

ABX
--
disc{z,-z 5#macro O()asc(substr("-+((1*(,1,/.-,*/(,&.323/'1"e,1))*.1-4#declare
e=e-1;#end#local e=26;pigment{#local g=function(_){ceil(_)-_}function#local//X
k=function{pattern{object{sphere_sweep{linear_spline 13#while(e>0)<O(),O()//AB
>.01#end}}}}{k(g(atan2(x,y)),g(ln((y+x)^2+1e-5)),0)}}finish{ambient 1}}//POV35

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> I have never had such a problem unless i set the priority to more than
> 'Lower',

ok, it seems like that helps for anyone having this problem, so I'll try that :)


cu!
--
camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
<.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf

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"W³odzimierz ABX Skiba" <abx### [at] babilonorg> a écrit dans le message de news:
87sv4u8alrd91nn183e8a32hvkujd31ft7@4ax.com...
> iirc I have confirmed this behaviour in answer to your post in some group
(iirc
> beta-test)

Oops sorry, I didn't remember your message... I did report it during the
pre-beta phase, and Peter Popov confirmed having seen it a couple of times
and tracking it down to a video problem, but nothing more. In fact it's been
a real problem for me, but very elusive.

> I always set povray to low priority on my NT. It helps avoid pauses in my
case.
Now I understand that's it's the system priority that you talked about. I'll
try to see whether this workaround works for me.

G.

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**********************
- Graphic experiments
- POV-Ray and Poser computer images
- Posters

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Setting (in POV-Ray) GUI-priority to lowest and (in Windows Task-Manager) leaving
POV-Ray's priority at normal seems to have solved the problem.

tnx for your ideas!
cu!
--
camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
<.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf

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I also have windows XP and have the same problem. However simply setting the
render priority to lowest solves it wth no degrade in performance.

"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in message
news:3c4e0c85@news.povray.org...
> Whenever I've started a render, it's almost impossible to type in POV's
editor.  Every now
> and then POV-Ray decides to take a nap for a few seconds, and during that
period, I can do
> almost nothing with my computer.  However, when I restart POV-Ray, the
problem seems to be
> solved.
> I'm using POVMan 0.71.4, but I had the same problem with MegaPov 0.7.
> Now, what I want to know is: did anyone have a similar problem, and is it
fixed in POV-Ray
> 3.5?
>
> cu!
> --
> camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local
C=0
> ;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local
C=C+1
> ;#end#end
L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
> <.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf
>
>


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