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Running POV which windows based system is the fastest (AMD or P4)?
Using optimised code for both sysytems is the difference still the
same?
How many memory is recommended?
Is the HD-speed (5400 or 7200) an important factor?
Greetings
Roland
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Roland Vansteenkiste wrote:
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> Running POV which windows based system is the fastest (AMD or P4)?
The consensus seems to favor the AMD by a good margin.
> Using optimised code for both sysytems is the difference still the
> same?
From what I have heard, yes.
> How many memory is recommended?
256 megs is good but 500 megs is better.
> Is the HD-speed (5400 or 7200) an important factor?
Only if you are reading in extremely large files. Otherwise it
really doesn't matter much if at all.
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Ken Tyler
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:56:19 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote:
>Only if you are reading in extremely large files. Otherwise it
>really doesn't matter much if at all.
Or if your scene is so huge it has to swap heavily.
Mahy I recommend a Maxtor HDD? They're really, really quiet (even the
fan of my video board is louder) and therefore great for overnight
renders. The rest of their parameters (capacity, speed, price) are
comparable to most other vendors.
Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg
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Roland Vansteenkiste wrote:
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> Running POV which windows based system is the fastest (AMD or P4)?
Depends on the clock speed. A 1.7GHz P4 is comparable to a 1.2GHz
Athlon.
See www.tabsnet.com for benchmarks.
> Using optimised code for both sysytems is the difference still the
> same?
I don't think I have seen a specific Athlon optimised compile, but since
the Athlon thrives fine on PIII optimised code, the difference is still
there. Again see www.tabsnet.com
> How many memory is recommended?
As much as your scenes need. Not more than 2GB, as that is the max that
POV can address.
> Is the HD-speed (5400 or 7200) an important factor?
In most cases: no. If your scenes takes a long time to parse, uses a lot
more memory, than you have RAM, but renders very fast, then it may be a
factor.
In my experience, having to use disk swapping has more impact on the
parse time, than on the render time. I have a dual processor system, and
I once rendered a scene (Railway Station), that used 200 MB memory. I
wanted to render on both processors, and since I, at the time, only had
256 MB RAM, disk swapping was necessary. If I started the two renders at
the same time, the parse time increased dramatically. If I waited for
the first render to finish parsing, before I started the second, neither
parse time nor render time increased much, as compared to a solo render.
(This is under Win NT 4.0)
/Ib
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Gallery: http://www.ibras.dk
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> > Running POV which windows based system is the fastest (AMD or P4)?
>
> The consensus seems to favor the AMD by a good margin.
however, with AMD your whole system rests on the VIA chipset - world renown
for being flaky
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Rick
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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
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> > > Running POV which windows based system is the fastest (AMD or P4)?
> >
> > The consensus seems to favor the AMD by a good margin.
>
> however, with AMD your whole system rests on the VIA chipset - world renown
> for being flaky
Yeah, but so is Windows, and that doesn't stop 90% of computer users
from running it - including me.
I have an Athlon system based on the Alimagick chipset, which is
supposed to be much worse than the VIA, and the only problem I have had,
is the occasional wrong temperature reading on the CPU.
/Ib
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Ib Rasmussen <ib### [at] ibrasdk> wrote:
: Depends on the clock speed. A 1.7GHz P4 is comparable to a 1.2GHz
: Athlon.
It depends on the application as well. With certain applications a
900MHz Athlon can clearly beat the 1.7GHz P4.
The most important thing is price: How much does a 1.7GHz P4 cost? And
a 1.2GHz Athlon?
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Warp wrote:
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> Ib Rasmussen <ib### [at] ibrasdk> wrote:
> : Depends on the clock speed. A 1.7GHz P4 is comparable to a 1.2GHz
> : Athlon.
>
> It depends on the application as well. With certain applications a
> 900MHz Athlon can clearly beat the 1.7GHz P4.
The question was, how do they perform with POV.
/Ib
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Ib Rasmussen <ib### [at] ibrasdk> wrote:
: The question was, how do they perform with POV.
I doubt he will be using the computer exclusively for povraying.
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Warp wrote:
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> Ib Rasmussen <ib### [at] ibrasdk> wrote:
> : The question was, how do they perform with POV.
>
> I doubt he will be using the computer exclusively for povraying.
WHAT ELSE IS THERE????
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Peter Popov scribis news:oesd2ukloaoqp20kvo809b2qn3lfhkq5p6@4ax.com:
> May I recommend a Maxtor HDD? They're really, really quiet (even the
> fan of my video board is louder) and therefore great for overnight
> renders.
I like Maxtors also, but not for the sound. I have 1 or 2 (sometimes 3)
systems running all night anyway and if they were turned off the silence
would wake me up. It is a pleasant background noise that calms me.
--
Gis poste, Arto.
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Ib Rasmussen wrote:
> > How many memory is recommended?
>
> As much as your scenes need. Not more than 2GB, as that is the max that
> POV can address.
Beware, I've heard rumor about a 512Mb limit for some version of MS OS.
Which OS do you plane to have ?
--
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http://grimbert.cjb.net/
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Not exactly a rumor - Win98se has a definite problem with RAM above 512Mb.
...larry
J. Grimbert <jer### [at] atosorigincom> wrote in message
news:3C2ADFDA.8D153707@atosorigin.com...
> Ib Rasmussen wrote:
> > > How many memory is recommended?
> >
> > As much as your scenes need. Not more than 2GB, as that is the max that
> > POV can address.
>
> Beware, I've heard rumor about a 512Mb limit for some version of MS OS.
> Which OS do you plane to have ?
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"LABourdillon" <lab### [at] NOSPAMixnetcomcom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3c2bbfac@news.povray.org...
> Not exactly a rumor - Win98se has a definite problem with RAM above 512Mb.
>
> ...larry
You can ran Win98(se) with 1 GB RAM, if you add these text to system.ini :
[vcache]
MinFileCache=32768 KByte
MaxFileCache=32768 KByte
At least these is my way to handle the RAM problem with Win98se.
Norbert
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> You can ran Win98(se) with 1 GB RAM, if you add these text to system.ini :
>
> [vcache]
> MinFileCache=32768 KByte
> MaxFileCache=32768 KByte
>
> At least these is my way to handle the RAM problem with Win98se.
but then again, if you have that much ram, you really would be better with
2k
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"Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3c2c590b$2@news.povray.org...
> > You can run Win98(se) with 1 GB RAM, if you add this to system.ini :
> >
> > [vcache]
> > MinFileCache=32768 KByte
> > MaxFileCache=32768 KByte
> >
> > At least this is my way to handle the RAM problem with Win98se.
>
> but then again, if you have that much ram, you really would be better with
> 2k
Win2000 eats more memory resources, you cannot use most DOS programs and it
is somewhat slower than Win98se (at least this is my experience).
But anyway, 1 GB seems to be the limit for Win98se, since it didn´t work
with 1.5 GB, whatever memory I used.
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Appreciate the response - I wasn't aware of this; certainly will give it a
try.
I also read your later post regarding the apparent 1Gb limit for Win98se.
Thanks.
...larry
Norbert Kern <nor### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
news:3c2c0bcb$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "LABourdillon" <lab### [at] NOSPAMixnetcomcom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:3c2bbfac@news.povray.org...
> > Not exactly a rumor - Win98se has a definite problem with RAM above
512Mb.
> >
> > ...larry
>
>
>
> You can ran Win98(se) with 1 GB RAM, if you add these text to system.ini :
>
> [vcache]
> MinFileCache=32768 KByte
> MaxFileCache=32768 KByte
>
> At least these is my way to handle the RAM problem with Win98se.
>
> Norbert
>
>
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:46:18 +0100, "J. Grimbert"
<jer### [at] atosorigincom> wrote:
>
>Beware, I've heard rumor about a 512Mb limit for some version of MS OS.
>Which OS do you plane to have ?
>
Windows ME won't see memory above 512Mb
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