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Is MegaPOV better then plain ole Povray?
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Chris <chr### [at] yahoo com> wrote:
: Is MegaPOV better then plain ole Povray?
Well, if MegaPov can do everything povray can, plus more, what do you think?
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Warp wrote:
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> Chris <chr### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> : Is MegaPOV better then plain ole Povray?
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> Well, if MegaPov can do everything povray can, plus more, what do > you think?
That MegaPOV is more unstable.
Remco Poelstra
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In article <399a42e7@news.povray.org>, "Chris" <chr### [at] yahoocom>
wrote:
> Is MegaPOV better then plain ole Povray?
Better for what? It includes many new features and bug fixes, but scenes
using these features are not compatible with the official version and
may not be completely compatible with future versions. It is no better
or worse for learning to use POV, since the language hasn't been
fundamentally changed. The Mac version of MegaPOV has a nifty new GUI
with spline editors and enhanced templates, but some prefer the official
GUI. Although it contains many fixes for bugs in the official version,
there are also new bugs that have been added in the process of
integrating patches or which came with the patches themselves, so it
isn't really an improvement in stability. It doesn't render any faster
most of the time, but includes features to make media and radiosity
compute much faster.
It really depends on what you are going to be doing with it.
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TAG(Technical Assistance Group) e-mail: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
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"Chris" wrote:
> Is MegaPOV better then plain ole Povray?
That depends on in which way you mean better.
Is MegaPOV 0.5 better to use than POV-Ray 3.1?
MegaPOV has more features, but is also a more unstable and slow.
Anyway, I'd say MegaPOV is better to use.
But MegaPOV is not better in all respects. If it were, then MegaPOV should
be changed to be the official version, and I doubt that many people really
would want that.
Official POV-Ray is faster, more consistent and logic in syntax, have fewer
bugs, does only have features of a certain standard of usefulness, is much
better documented, and there's probably other advantages I have forgot.
I think that when POV-Ray 3.5 comes out I will stop using MegaPOV, even if
there's many MegaPOV features that doesn't make it into POV-Ray 3.5.
Greetings,
Rune
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Just out of curiosity; what is slower in Megapov. I really haven't really
done any comparisons, except you can't help but notice that radiosity is
faster (in MP).
I would have assumed that it would render pure POV 3.1 files very close to
exactly the same speed. (assuming that they were built with the same
compiler and options.)
H²
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"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote...
> "Chris" wrote:
> > Is MegaPOV better then plain ole Povray?
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> Official POV-Ray is faster
That used to be true, but it is not anymore. In fact, MegaPov is faster
than POV-Ray 3.1g in most cases. MegaPov includes a number of speed
optimizations (such as the really great memory-allocation cache and the fast
macro patch) that more than make up for some of the things that slow it down
(such as uv mapping).
-Nathan
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"Chris" <chr### [at] yahoocom> wrote...
> Is MegaPOV better then plain ole Povray?
MegaPov should be thought of as the bleeding-edge development version of
POV-Ray. Much of what you see in MegaPov is being transferred to the
official version of POV (3.5), usually with some nice refinements that
improve the syntax and implementation.
-Nathan
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Remco Poelstra <rjp### [at] homenl> wrote:
: That MegaPOV is more unstable.
More unstable? I haven't noticed this.
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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):_;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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In article <399beb40@news.povray.org>, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>
wrote:
>Remco Poelstra <rjp### [at] homenl> wrote:
>: That MegaPOV is more unstable.
>
> More unstable? I haven't noticed this.
I don't think it's so much that it is more unstable, but that it has
more features, some of which are unstable. For example, it is very easy
to crash MegaPOV on my Macintosh when using post-processing on large
images. Very difficult to crash Official POV when using post-processing
on large images :*)
Jerry
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"Nathan Kopp" wrote:
> "Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote...
> > Official POV-Ray is faster
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> That used to be true, but it is not anymore.
Ok, but it still doesn't change my point of view.
Actually I'm just surprised that none of my other arguments have been shot
down...! :-)
Rune
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"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote...
> "Nathan Kopp" wrote:
> > "Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote...
> > > Official POV-Ray is faster
> >
> > That used to be true, but it is not anymore.
>
> Ok, but it still doesn't change my point of view.
>
> Actually I'm just surprised that none of my other arguments have been shot
> down...! :-)
Actually, as I understand it, the general consensus within the team agrees
with your points, and we are addressing them before the release of POV 3.5.
POV 3.5 will not simply be a re-labeled MegaPov. That is why all of you
have to continue to wait.
Also, it is my hope that most MegaPov users will switch to POV 3.5 when it
is released, though I also hope that at least some will go back to using
MegaPov after an updated MegaPov is released (based on POV 3.5) so that
various new features can continue to be put through the paces.
-Nathan
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"Nathan Kopp" <Nat### [at] Koppcom> wrote in message
news:399c7e48$1@news.povray.org...
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| I also hope that at least some will go back to using
| MegaPov after an updated MegaPov is released (based on POV 3.5) so that
| various new features can continue to be put through the paces.
Good news in what you say. Will MegaPov 1.0 be the next version number
leap? It kind of remains unfinished until it hits a whole number, or at
least seems that way.
I thought of a great name change: Beta-POV. Sounds less a cousin to POV
and describes it better, if it is a test-bed anyhow. "Mega-" seems a number
or quantity thing to me. Or maybe Alpha-POV? This might have already been
a couple of the naming suggestions early on too but I don't remember all
that. I guess there could be a problem with naming it as though it were
truly a beta version which obviously it is not.
Neither POV-Ray Trace 3.5 nor Mega-POV (Beta-POV... whichever :-)) will be
set aside by me whenever they are available. I still have 3.02 here. Kind
of goes without saying.
Brings up the question about whether people are actually keeping the two
POV's separate in the way they consider them when asking questions. As far
as emails to POV-Team members and such goes I'm saying.
Bob
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It seems to me that MegaPOV has become the unofficial equivalent of the Gimp
1.1 series or the Linux 2.3 series: the caveat-emptor-developement-version
for POV. MegaPOV has some really cool stuff in it, but these features
aren't always fully regression tested, etc, etc. I think it's a great way
to work. When I want to explore, I use MegaPOV. If it breaks, I don't
sweat it.
Rick
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:16:56 -0400, Nathan Kopp wrote:
(something or other...)
Nathan, this is totally off topic, but I wonder why you're posting in
charset Windows-1252 instead of something sane like latin1?
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Ron Parker http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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Nathan Kopp wrote:
> I recently installed a new version of IE and it did this (the default
> charset was "Western European (Windows)"). Now it should be more normal (it
> is named "Western European (ISO)").
>
> Is this better?
The header for this last message still reads -
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
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Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote...
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:16:56 -0400, Nathan Kopp wrote:
> (something or other...)
>
> Nathan, this is totally off topic, but I wonder why you're posting in
> charset Windows-1252 instead of something sane like latin1?
Ok. I'm trying here. Really. I recently installed IE 5.5 and I think
that's what started it. I've tried to change the character set in the
options dialog boxes, but it appears to have no effect. I've tried "Western
European (Windows)," "Western European (ISO)," and "Latin 3 (ISO)" and they
all end up sending with the format "Windows-1252". Can anyone help?
-Nathan
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Nathan Kopp wrote:
> Ok. I'm trying here. Really. I recently installed IE 5.5 and I think
> that's what started it. I've tried to change the character set in the
> options dialog boxes, but it appears to have no effect. I've tried "Western
> European (Windows)," "Western European (ISO)," and "Latin 3 (ISO)" and they
> all end up sending with the format "Windows-1252". Can anyone help?
Sure. Which Linux distribution do you want?
;-)
-Mark Gordon
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... or switch to Netscape :)
Alberto
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