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From: OpenMined
Subject: Re: Creating GIFs with Linux/Unix
Date: 2 Feb 2001 16:51:36
Message: <3a7b2be8@news.povray.org>
> >I live in the US.  I can place GIF images on my web page if they are
> >produced with a licensed program.  I have since learned that Corel is
> >available for Linux/GNU. $199US.
>
> The wise person will download the trial first.  The RPM version breaks in
> dozens of different ways if you're not running Red Hat.  Apparently
someone
> forgot to tell Corel that there are other systems that use RPM.

Thanks, Ron.   The ignorance or arrogance of many software manufacturers is
astonishing.  I am frequently disgusted when installations place 10s of
megabytes of unwanted 'stuff' on my hard drive, without asking or sometimes
without even advising, or force me to install ancillary packages even when I
uncheck them, or remove needed .dll files when deinstalling.  Like they were
programmed by narcissistic adolescents!  (Say, come to think of it...)
:-)



> --
> Ron Parker   http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
> My opinions.  Mine.  Not anyone else's.


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From: OpenMined
Subject: Re: Creating GIFs with Linux/Unix
Date: 2 Feb 2001 17:12:03
Message: <3a7b30b3@news.povray.org>
> > When PNG becomes universal (and animated), the issue might become moot.
> > Until then, GIF hardly seems "out" to me.  Unless I'm missing something.
>
> MPEG?

Crossed my mind as possible... little experience with their use on web pages
yet, though.   (A window would not do for my needs.)

Would their display require an applet linking to a system-resident MPEG
player?   In any case, would their display be possible on 90% or more of
internet connected computer systems as configured?

It also occurs to me that if one is going to the trouble to use an applet,
perhaps one could download just about ANY sequence of images, regardless of
format, and display them as an animation.

Any thoughts?


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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: Creating GIFs with Linux/Unix
Date: 3 Feb 2001 18:02:10
Message: <slrn97p084.fh7.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On 2001-02-01 02:09, OpenMined <**MailFreeAmerica**> wrote:
>Peter, I checked their site recently and came away with the belief that the
>license was a flat $5000 for software vendors, and a different arrangement
>for websites which serve software-generated GIFs.   I saw no mechanism by
>which they would license anything for a few dollars.

They probably changed it. 

	hp

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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: Creating GIFs with Linux/Unix
Date: 3 Feb 2001 18:02:11
Message: <slrn97p0eb.fh7.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On 2001-02-01 20:14, OpenMined <**MailFreeAmerica**> wrote:
>When PNG becomes universal (and animated), the issue might become moot.

PNG will never become animated. It is meant for pictures, not movies.
There is however, an animation file format called "MNG", which is
derived from PNG.

	hp

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|_|_) | Sysadmin WSR       | which is our implementation of Linux.
| |   | hjp### [at] wsracat      | 
__/   | http://www.hjp.at/ |	-- Scott McNealy, Dec. 2000


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From: OpenMined
Subject: Re: Creating GIFs with Linux/Unix
Date: 3 Feb 2001 20:03:37
Message: <3a7caa69@news.povray.org>
Thanks, Peter.

Heard about that, but it appeared to be still under developed and
unsupported in web clients.

This may have changed- have had no further time to research it yet.

___

Peter J. Holzer <hjp### [at] SiKituwsracat> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] tealhhjpat...
> On 2001-02-01 20:14, OpenMined <**MailFreeAmerica**> wrote:
> >When PNG becomes universal (and animated), the issue might become moot.
>
> PNG will never become animated. It is meant for pictures, not movies.
> There is however, an animation file format called "MNG", which is
> derived from PNG.
>
> hp
>
> --
>    _  | Peter J. Holzer    | All Linux applications run on Solaris,
> |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR       | which is our implementation of Linux.
> | |   | hjp### [at] wsracat      |
> __/   | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- Scott McNealy, Dec. 2000


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From: Pabs
Subject: Re: Creating GIFs with Linux/Unix
Date: 11 Mar 2001 21:10:27
Message: <3AAC3045.5D5CB20C@nospam.crosswinds.net>
OpenMined wrote:

> I'd like to convert bitmap files to GIFs, especially animated GIFs, under
> Linux/Unix.

You should really consider png or mng (animated png - multiple network
graphics)

> Ideally, it should be controllable entirely from the command line.  Barring
> that, the process should be invocable from a script.

http://netpbm.sourceforge.net
2*n filters convert between n formats & the ppm/pgm/pbm formats (collectively
pnm)
It supports gifs though probably not legally
Don't use gifs anyway - they are outdated & patented
Bye,
Pabs


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From: Thierry B 
Subject: Re: Creating GIFs with Linux/Unix
Date: 12 Mar 2001 10:27:27
Message: <3AACEAD8.4D5AC66C@chez.com>
Pabs wrote:
> 
> http://netpbm.sourceforge.net
> 2*n filters convert between n formats & the ppm/pgm/pbm formats (collectively
> pnm)
> It supports gifs though probably not legally
> Don't use gifs anyway - they are outdated & patented
                                   ^^^^^^^^
                                     why ?

-- 
Thierry Boudet                          http://la.buvette.org/troll/


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