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I've been hunting around various places for them, but I can't seem
to find em'. So, does anyone know where I can find some animation
tutorials that do with complex animations such as walking. I have an
idea of how to make a human walk, but I do not really possess that skill
in Pov-Ray to do it (I'm still trying to work out CSG differences and
such - damn they can get complicated! :). My problem really is that
I don't know how to convey to povray how to move the objects. I thought
about it using a hierarchy. For example, cutting the leg into 3
parts (Top, Below Knee, Foot), and when I move it, I'd move the whole
thing, followed by the Knee, then the Foot. Not a very realistic
concept, but it is a start I 'spose.
It isn't too terribly importaint just yet, as I'm working on a still
project right now, but I'd like to begin messing with it.
Oh yes, I'm also looking for an MPEG Video Player for Linux and a
MPG cruncher/maker (the thing I run to cram all my images into a nice,
neat MPEG :)
Thanks for the help,
-Tim Soderstrom
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Tim Soderstrom wrote:
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> I've been hunting around various places for them, but I can't seem
> to find em'. So, does anyone know where I can find some animation
> tutorials that do with complex animations such as walking. I have an
> idea of how to make a human walk, but I do not really possess that skill
> in Pov-Ray to do it (I'm still trying to work out CSG differences and
> such - damn they can get complicated! :). My problem really is that
> I don't know how to convey to povray how to move the objects. I thought
> about it using a hierarchy. For example, cutting the leg into 3
> parts (Top, Below Knee, Foot), and when I move it, I'd move the whole
> thing, followed by the Knee, then the Foot. Not a very realistic
> concept, but it is a start I 'spose.
>
> It isn't too terribly importaint just yet, as I'm working on a still
> project right now, but I'd like to begin messing with it.
There are a couple of walking related inc files you could reference
for direct pov related info.
Walking .inc and a good animtion:
http://www.jbarchuk.com/twillis/
Also look here for the motion dynamics libraries:
http://www.win.or.jp/~kom/povray_e.html#theresa
There is a very basic illustrated description of a system called
inverse kinematics which can be found at the following site:
http://freespace.virgin.net/hugo.elias/
Daniel Skarda has many links to studies in human motions and
automated motion studies for use in robotics at:
http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~0rfelyus/bookmark.html
And lastly you should know that the Pov modeller, Moray, now has
an inverse kinematics motion control system as one of it's features
available. It really simplifies the process.
> Oh yes, I'm also looking for an MPEG Video Player for Linux and a
> MPG cruncher/maker (the thing I run to cram all my images into a nice,
> neat MPEG :)
>
> Thanks for the help,
> -Tim Soderstrom
You might also keep an eye out for items related to your last request
while visiting Daniel Skarda's page. He has a lot of Linux links I don't
bother with becuase I'm a Windows user.
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Tim Soderstrom wrote:
>
> I've been hunting around various places for them, but I can't seem
> to find em'. So, does anyone know where I can find some animation
> tutorials that do with complex animations such as walking. I have an
> idea of how to make a human walk, but I do not really possess that skill
> in Pov-Ray to do it
A couple of links forgot I had might also interest you as related
to the proper movements of limbs:
http://www.frams.poznan.pl/a/al_main.html
Center for human animation and simulation:
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~hms/
Rational b splines as applied to animation:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/nest/imager/contributions/forsey/dragon/top.html
Human arm modelling and motion control:
http://www.cs.curtin.edu.au/~chinkw/html/ik/
Human body modelling and motion:
http://ligwww.epfl.ch/~shen/bb.html
Impulse and imagines site:
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mirtich/impulse.html
A good source for all things in CG animation:
http://www.mediom.qc.ca/creator-studio/
Enjoy,
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Tim Soderstrom wrote:
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> Oh yes, I'm also looking for an MPEG Video Player for Linux and a
> MPG cruncher/maker (the thing I run to cram all my images into a nice,
> neat MPEG :)
I think that http://www.mpeg.com (or was it .org?) has mpeg systeems for all
os'es.
--
//Spider
[ spi### [at] bahnhof se ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
"Marian"
By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
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http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/ was the correct address ... forgive me for any
inconvenience.
Spider wrote:
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> Tim Soderstrom wrote:
> >
> > Oh yes, I'm also looking for an MPEG Video Player for Linux and a
> > MPG cruncher/maker (the thing I run to cram all my images into a nice,
> > neat MPEG :)
> I think that http://www.mpeg.com (or was it .org?) has mpeg systeems for all
> os'es.
>
> --
> //Spider
> [ spi### [at] bahnhof se ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
> "Marian"
> By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
--
//Spider
[ spi### [at] bahnhof se ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
"Marian"
By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
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Thanks for the help! I think I'll probably just end up using the .INC file,
at least at first. In any case, a walking animation is still a ways off. I
still suck at stills! :) But my friend wants me to make an animation for the
year book, so I need to do it before the summer's out, I spose...
My problem, which I was hoping that the tutorials could also help answer, was
the movement of body parts in non perfect paths. Of course, there could be a
mathematic way of expressing a walk, knowing how to control objects with
greater detail, without using spline paths is one of my goals for
animation....on of many.
Anyways, thanks for all the links!
Tim Soderstrom
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Spider wrote:
> http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/ was the correct address ... forgive me for any
> inconvenience.
>
Thanks! I'm hoping that I can also find an MPG Video encoder on that site as
well, it's a pain to have to copy all the crap to my DOS partition...heh..and
even then I don't have an MPG encoder (just AVI)
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