 |
|
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
hi,
"Maetes" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Strange ... strange ... STRANGE.
> I thought 7-zip had already established itself as one of the standards.
> I think about to switch back to ZIP.
you're correct, it's well established. your file was the first .7z I had a
problem with; no worries, may have been a "glitch".
> Maybe the lady likes to test this file:
thank you, appreciated.
> What I've done this time ... :)
> And not even in this thread!
you failed to doff your cap, wipe your feet ?! </grin>
> First thing I had to do was to duckduckgo what BSD means at all.
yes, there's more to the world than (just) MS Windows :-).
fwiw, 'MA_String2Array()' "jumped out" at me as I had need of something similar,
though simpler.
<https://news.povray.org/web.64b08576d08f3556b49d80446cde94f1%40news.povray.org>
regards, jr.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
"jr" <cre### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> you failed to doff your cap, wipe your feet ?! </grin>
Sorry, I will work on my behavior. Promised.
> yes, there's more to the world than (just) MS Windows :-).
Phh ... this is my world:
https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-5/
2nd Pi 5 ordered few week ago (for povray-jobs only), have three Pi 4, many
older ones ...
So I can tell you, the Pi 5 renders pure povray-scripts 2.87 times faster than
the Pi 4.
> fwiw, 'MA_String2Array()' "jumped out" at me as I had need of something similar,
> <https://news.povray.org/web.64b08576d08f3556b49d80446cde94f1%40news.povray.org>
Then you know how painfull it is, to write the string and array macros from
scratch, that are part of every other programming language.
But I needed them!
Ma
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> fwiw, 'MA_String2Array()' "jumped out" at me as I had need of something similar,
> <https://news.povray.org/web.64b08576d08f3556b49d80446cde94f1%40news.povray.org>
Damn, I posted this thread in the wrong group.
If anyone can fix this, please feel free.
m
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
hi,
> Phh ... this is my world:
"strange .. strange .. strange" :-) I'd have thought being a Linux user, you'd
know all the "creation myths" of the unices including BSDs.
I never got round to playing with Pis, alas. (along with countless other things
:-))
> 2nd Pi 5 ordered few week ago (for povray-jobs only), have three Pi 4, many
> older ones ...
> So I can tell you, the Pi 5 renders pure povray-scripts 2.87 times faster than
> the Pi 4.
fast ? <https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_pictures.htm>
may also be a fun way to keep the older ones running.
> Then you know how painfull it is, to write the string and array macros from
> scratch, that are part of every other programming language.
yes. writing SDL macros _is_ character-building ;-).
regards, jr.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
hi,
also :-)
"Maetes" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > fwiw, 'MA_String2Array()' "jumped out" at me as I had need of something similar,
> Then you know ...
while "nosing around" the .inc file more, this comment caught my eye:
MA_Terminal_T*
Sends Text and/or variables to the terminal-window. Nice to have during
development of programming-tasks.
Unfortunately povray doesnt know something about ...
- optional parameters
would it not be a good idea to update your 'ma_helpers.inc' to version 3.8 ?
you'd get to use the new 'optional' keyword for macro arguments:
<https://wiki.povray.org/content/Reference:User_Defined_Macros#Optional_Parameters>
regards, jr.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> fast ? <https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_pictures.htm>
> may also be a fun way to keep the older ones running.
You love this small box or you ignore it.
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> would it not be a good idea to update your 'ma_helpers.inc' to version 3.8 ?
> you'd get to use the new 'optional' keyword for macro arguments
it's not just about optional parameters, but also about the lack of
type-identification.
And as long as version 3.8 is not part of the official Debian repository, I will
use and write for version 3.7.
Installing the package manually requires more Linux knowledge, I also avoid that
if possible.
Debian-Version in the current Release: 3.7.0.10
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/povray
In the next Release: 3.7.0.10
https://packages.debian.org/trixie/povray
I hope my scripts are useful nevertheless.
Martin
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
hi,
"Maetes" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > may also be a fun way to keep the older ones running.
> You love this small box or you ignore it.
:-) the (late) Mrs Thatcher liked to say "there is no alternative".
> > you'd get to use the new 'optional' keyword for macro arguments
> it's not just about optional parameters, but also about the lack of
> type-identification.
> And as long as version 3.8 is not part of the official Debian repository, I will
> use and write for version 3.7.
> Installing the package manually requires more Linux knowledge, I also avoid that
> if possible.
ah, shame. if "Linux knowledge" weren't an issue (you'd need to compile/install
from source), the 'yuqk' branch might "tick your boxes"; there's (SDL) support
for querying type of variable, for instance. the latest is here:
<https://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.programming/thread/%3C675ff7f7%40news.povray.org%3E/>
(and we're all _waiting_ for .. the gods to pull out their thumbs and make 3.8
official)
> I hope my scripts are useful nevertheless.
still "investigating" ;-)
regards, jr.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>
> ah, shame. if "Linux knowledge" weren't an issue (you'd need to compile/install
> from source), the 'yuqk' branch might "tick your boxes"; there's (SDL) support
> for querying type of variable, for instance.
I don't waste time to check other or Beta-Versions of Povray.
I waste time to write complex macros from scratch :)
(soooo many hours, shame on ME)
> (and we're all _waiting_ for .. the gods to pull out their thumbs and make 3.8
> official)
Unfortunately, I can't find any item of my personal wish list (except for
optional parameters) in the revision list of version 3.8.
These are:
- spherical heightfields
- Type-Identification
- new functions to handle strings/arrays
- Object-Oriented Programming (Classes)
https://wiki.povray.org/content/Documentation:Tutorial_Section_1#Version_3.8
Whether 3.7 or 3.8 makes little difference to me.
So I have to wait for Povray 4.0 (year 2030?) and write macros, macros, macros
......
Or I push my C++ skills and find out if I can work on the development of
Povray-Sourcode. I've already started but failed (to view/understand/compile the
source).
Next life, maybe.
Or I will try the "B-Thing".
Ma
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
"Maetes" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Unfortunately, I can't find any item of my personal wish list (except for
> optional parameters) in the revision list of version 3.8.
> These are:
> - spherical heightfields
> - Type-Identification
> - new functions to handle strings/arrays
> - Object-Oriented Programming (Classes)
Spherical heightfields:
"shapes.inc includes shapes_old.inc and contains many macros for working with
objects, and for creating special objects, such as bevelled text, spherical
height fields, and rounded shapes."
https://wiki.povray.org/content/Reference:Shapes.inc
So it ought to be in the drop-down insert menu.
https://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C5f16dc29%40news.povray.org%3E/
https://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C38a2dc5b%40news.povray.org%3E/
> Whether 3.7 or 3.8 makes little difference to me.
3.8 does have some little fixes and things, so I've been running that since it
got released as the beta.
> So I have to wait for Povray 4.0 (year 2030?) and write macros, macros, macros
> ......
Welcome to the club. It's not big, and you're in it. ;)
> Or I push my C++ skills and find out if I can work on the development of
> Povray-Sourcode. I've already started but failed (to view/understand/compile the
> source).
jr and I are looking into that. But at the moment we're both sort of tied up
with too much non-POV-Ray real life drudgery. :(
> Or I will try the "B-Thing".
:O Hush.
- BW
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
hi,
to add to Bald Eagle's reply.
> - new functions to handle strings/arrays
can you give some examples of what you (most) miss, please ?
> - Object-Oriented Programming (Classes)
Bruno Cabasson had "a go":
<https://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.scene-files/thread/%3Cweb.621f42cb592fe9587283012224d82e4%40news.povray.org%3E
/>
but SDL would need to be "divorced" from its current parser before classes
("proper", as I imagine you mean), etc could be part of the language.
regards, jr.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
