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Render with the SuperPatch. Enjoy.
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Attachments:
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TonyB <ben### [at] panama phoenixnet> wrote:
: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Why people still send binaries to this group?
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Ron Parker did just before me. Why didn't you say anything to him? This is
text after all. Yeesh. I mean, what's the point of having a text.scene-files?
I understand a binaries.scene-files for when I send a scene with textures,
and meshes, but just a simple scene like this deserves to be considered as
text and go here. OK?
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On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:43:03 -0400, TonyB
<ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:
>Ron Parker did just before me. Why didn't you say anything to him?
Did not. Mine was text. Yours was MIME base64 encoded. Mine
is readable to a human in a simple newsreader (slrn is my usual
choice) or by telnetting to port 119 (yes, I do that a lot)
Yours is not.
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TonyB wrote:
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> Ron Parker did just before me. Why didn't you say anything to him? This is
> text after all. Yeesh. I mean, what's the point of having a text.scene-files?
> I understand a binaries.scene-files for when I send a scene with textures,
> and meshes, but just a simple scene like this deserves to be considered as
> text and go here. OK?
>
> --
> Anthony L. Bennett
> http://welcome.to/TonyB
>
> Graphics rendered
> by the Dreamachine.
I guess the difference is you've attached the pov-file to your message in stead
of cuttin'&pastin' it. I see no great harm in that but obviously others do.
Anyway: thanks for the source.
Have fun!
Remco
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Well, sorry. I didn't know that people do these things that way. I'll
keep that in mind in the future, and copy-paste the text into the
message. OK?
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On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:40:37 -0400, TonyB
<ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:
>Well, sorry. I didn't know that people do these things that way. I'll
>keep that in mind in the future, and copy-paste the text into the
>message. OK?
I'm not upset, I'm just pointing out the difference.
Interesting how a post called "my ugly little flame" turns into an
ugly little flame. :)
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Netscape didn't even give me a clue that this had been encoded, just showed me a all
text message. Hmmm, then again there was a horizontal rule bar like in web pages.
Guess
that was the clue.
The important factor is that no "Attachment" whatsoever should be done here I suppose,
and all so-called "text.scene-files" would be only written into a message post
directly
or, as has been said, cut&pasted in. I can understand the confusion however since a
singular pov file for example is just a text alone and if two or more files are zipped
and posted it constitutes a "binary" file belonging obviously at the twin group
p.b.s-f.
Except I can easily see how someone would even then think of that as a set of "text"
files and would be containing no binaries such as images, etc.
Please see the attached diagram which flowcharts this out in a more understandable
way.
[binary file]
Just kidding!
And if you have read down to here: this is the first I've seen the 'groups' and
'light_group' keywords. Guess I need to read something huh? And btw, those
'confidence',
'variance' and 'ratio' numbers are probably the most extreme decimals I've come
across.
I have never found any differences myself whether they be 0.9 or 0.99999999999999 for
confidence, and 0.1 or 0.000000000001 for variance. The ratio one is another story, a
spotlight in media can get pretty ragged if 'ratio' is not set right (default okay I
guess).
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Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
: Netscape didn't even give me a clue that this had been encoded
This is one of the main reasons why I don't like the news reader of
netscape.
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
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> Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> : Netscape didn't even give me a clue that this had been encoded
>
> This is one of the main reasons why I don't like the news reader of
> netscape.
>
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> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
That is one of the reasons I like it. I don't have to see all of the encoding
crap and it takes care everything for me keeping the backgroud tasks invisible.
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: That is one of the reasons I like it. I don't have to see all of the encoding
: crap and it takes care everything for me keeping the backgroud tasks invisible.
Well, I can start sending my text files with an encoding which netscape
can't read but other readers do. Then others can read the message directly
but you don't.
However, if I send my text files in plain text, I'm sure everyone can
read them.
Btw, I still can't understand why the netscape news reader very often
loads the images twice, thus duplicating the download time.
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
> Btw, I still can't understand why the netscape news reader very often
> loads the images twice, thus duplicating the download time.
I believe this only happens when you open an image into it's own window.
I usualy read all messages in a split window where I view the thread on
top and the body of the message on the bottom. If it contains an image I
view the image inside this split window arrangement. If I open the message
in it's own window BEFORE the entire image has finished loading in the
split window then I too expereince the double loading that you describe.
Why this is I can offer no explaination but only my own personal observations.
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Ken wrote:
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> Nieminen Mika wrote:
>
> > Btw, I still can't understand why the netscape news reader very often
> > loads the images twice, thus duplicating the download time.
>
> I believe this only happens when you open an image into it's own window.
> I usualy read all messages in a split window where I view the thread on
> top and the body of the message on the bottom. If it contains an image I
> view the image inside this split window arrangement. If I open the message
> in it's own window BEFORE the entire image has finished loading in the
> split window then I too expereince the double loading that you describe.
> Why this is I can offer no explaination but only my own personal observations.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
I'm afraid it isn't it :( I *always* read the news in a
split window, and I nearly always get this double-download
problem... Any way if anybody knows how to solve this I'm
interested too...
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Jerome wrote:
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> I'm afraid it isn't it :( I *always* read the news in a
> split window, and I nearly always get this double-download
> problem... Any way if anybody knows how to solve this I'm
> interested too...
>
Me too!
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On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:12:45 -0500, Bob wrote:
>And if you have read down to here: this is the first I've seen the 'groups' and
>'light_group' keywords. Guess I need to read something huh?
You'll need to read the superpatch documentation. Those are not
standard POV keywords.
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I had no problem reading it. Man, I could have sworn he'd commited a crime! Thanx
for the source,
Andrew C
TonyB wrote:
> Render with the SuperPatch. Enjoy.
>
> --
> Anthony L. Bennett
> http://welcome.to/TonyB
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> Graphics rendered
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Name: lightgroups.pov
> lightgroups.pov Type: POV-Ray scene file
(application/x-unknown-content-type-POV-Ray.Scene)
> Encoding: base64
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Andrew Clinton wrote in message <3765BD2E.CBAFB87D@ibm.net>...
>I had no problem reading it. Man, I could have sworn he'd commited a
crime! Thanx for the source,
He did, he violated 'netiquette'. Don't be fooled by the similarity to the
word 'etiquette', violating etiquette may sometimes result in raised
eyebrows, quiet whispers and the like, violating netiquette is addressed
with a standard punishment - death by ritual abuse. :-P
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Jerome wrote:
> I *always* read the news in a
> split window, and I nearly always get this double-download
> problem... Any way if anybody knows how to solve this I'm
> interested too...
Just be lucky you didn't get Microsoft's newsreader like I did. It finally quit
sending my messages and letting me see new ones. I have experienced the
double-download problem with Netscape, but it is a small price to pay for a much
better program.
SamuelT
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I use Outlook Express 5 and it converts some of the text source code into
links.
Personally I prefer attachments as you can save tham directly to the
required location rather than having to cut and paste
Ron Parker <par### [at] fwicom> wrote in message
news:3764199b.4091970@news.povray.org...
> On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:43:03 -0400, TonyB
> <ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:
>
> >Ron Parker did just before me. Why didn't you say anything to him?
>
> Did not. Mine was text. Yours was MIME base64 encoded. Mine
> is readable to a human in a simple newsreader (slrn is my usual
> choice) or by telnetting to port 119 (yes, I do that a lot)
> Yours is not.
>
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Samuel Benge wrote:
>
> Jerome wrote:
>
> > I *always* read the news in a
> > split window, and I nearly always get this double-download
> > problem... Any way if anybody knows how to solve this I'm
> > interested too...
>
> Just be lucky you didn't get Microsoft's newsreader like I did. It finally quit
> sending my messages and letting me see new ones. I have experienced the
> double-download problem with Netscape, but it is a small price to pay for a much
> better program.
>
> SamuelT
Actually Ididn't get much choice: I don't have internet
access at home, so I read the news at school on a Sun
workstation. Not many versions of Outlook Express work there
;)
Jerome
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