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From: TonyB
Subject: My ugly little flame...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 14:46:26
Message: <3763EED3.4208100C@panama.phoenix.net>
Render with the SuperPatch. Enjoy.

--
Anthony L. Bennett
http://welcome.to/TonyB

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Attachments:
Download 'lightgroups.pov.txt' (2 KB)

From: Nieminen Mika
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 15:09:51
Message: <376401ff@news.povray.org>
TonyB <ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:

: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

  Why people still send binaries to this group?

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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 15:41:26
Message: <3763FBB7.61C013B9@panama.phoenix.net>
Ron Parker did just before me. Why didn't you say anything to him? This is
text after all. Yeesh. I mean, what's the point of having a text.scene-files?
I understand a binaries.scene-files for when I send a scene with textures,
and meshes, but just a simple scene like this deserves to be considered as
text and go here. OK?

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Anthony L. Bennett
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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 16:54:00
Message: <3764199b.4091970@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:43:03 -0400, TonyB
<ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:

>Ron Parker did just before me. Why didn't you say anything to him? 

Did not.  Mine was text.  Yours was MIME base64 encoded.  Mine
is readable to a human in a simple newsreader (slrn is my usual
choice) or by telnetting to port 119 (yes, I do that a lot) 
Yours is not.


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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 17:02:00
Message: <37641392.3D4B78F4@xs4all.nl>
TonyB wrote:
> 
> Ron Parker did just before me. Why didn't you say anything to him? This is
> text after all. Yeesh. I mean, what's the point of having a text.scene-files?
> I understand a binaries.scene-files for when I send a scene with textures,
> and meshes, but just a simple scene like this deserves to be considered as
> text and go here. OK?
> 
> --
> Anthony L. Bennett
> http://welcome.to/TonyB
> 
> Graphics rendered
> by the Dreamachine.

I guess the difference is you've attached the pov-file to your message in stead
of cuttin'&pastin' it. I see no great harm in that but obviously others do.

Anyway: thanks for the source.

Have fun!

Remco


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 19:39:09
Message: <37643365.A61CFE12@panama.phoenix.net>
Well, sorry. I didn't know that people do these things that way. I'll
keep that in mind in the future, and copy-paste the text into the
message. OK?

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Anthony L. Bennett
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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 22:17:02
Message: <376465d4.23607613@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:40:37 -0400, TonyB
<ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:

>Well, sorry. I didn't know that people do these things that way. I'll
>keep that in mind in the future, and copy-paste the text into the
>message. OK?

I'm not upset, I'm just pointing out the difference.

Interesting how a post called "my ugly little flame" turns into an
ugly little flame. :)


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From: Bob
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 14 Jun 1999 01:13:23
Message: <37648F4D.C3D3B00@aol.com>
Netscape didn't even give me a clue that this had been encoded, just showed me a all
text message. Hmmm, then again there was a horizontal rule bar like in web pages.
Guess
that was the clue.
The important factor is that no "Attachment" whatsoever should be done here I suppose,
and all so-called "text.scene-files" would be only written into a message post
directly
or, as has been said, cut&pasted in. I can understand the confusion however since a
singular pov file for example is just a text alone and if two or more files are zipped
and posted it constitutes a "binary" file belonging obviously at the twin group
p.b.s-f.
Except I can easily see how someone would even then think of that as a set of "text"
files and would be containing no binaries such as images, etc.
Please see the attached diagram which flowcharts this out in a more understandable
way.

[binary file]

Just kidding!

And if you have read down to here: this is the first I've seen the 'groups' and
'light_group' keywords. Guess I need to read something huh? And btw, those
'confidence',
'variance' and 'ratio' numbers are probably the most extreme decimals I've come
across.
I have never found any differences myself whether they be 0.9 or 0.99999999999999 for
confidence, and 0.1 or 0.000000000001 for variance. The ratio one is another story, a
spotlight in media can get pretty ragged if 'ratio' is not set right (default okay I
guess).


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From: Nieminen Mika
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 14 Jun 1999 01:27:38
Message: <376492ca@news.povray.org>
Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
: Netscape didn't even give me a clue that this had been encoded

  This is one of the main reasons why I don't like the news reader of
netscape.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: My ugly little flame...
Date: 14 Jun 1999 01:29:48
Message: <37649086.88DFD1B8@pacbell.net>
Nieminen Mika wrote:
> 
> Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> : Netscape didn't even give me a clue that this had been encoded
> 
>   This is one of the main reasons why I don't like the news reader of
> netscape.
> 
> --
> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


That is one of the reasons I like it. I don't have to see all of the encoding
crap and it takes care everything for me keeping the backgroud tasks invisible.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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