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From: Jack
Subject: Beta-8?
Date: 30 Nov 2001 12:48:53
Message: <3c07c685$1@news.povray.org>
Hi:

Is Beta-8 or final release going to be posted today?

Best regards,
Jack


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Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 30 Nov 2001 12:55:57
Message: <srhf0ukbis8q2pl9jj956uav38odgnbnjl@4ax.com>
> Is Beta-8 or final release going to be posted today?

I wonder about it too. There must be something wrong with it becouse I suppose
they know about two free days before us (no net for many people).

ABX
--
#declare _=function(a,b,x){((a^2)+(b^2))^.5-x}#default {pigment{color rgb 1}}
union{plane{y,-3}plane{-x,-3}finish{reflection 1 ambient 0}}isosurface{ //ABX
function{_(x-2,y,1)|_((x+y)*.7,z,.1)|_((x+y+2)*.7,z,.1)|_(x/2+y*.8+1.5,z,.1)}
contained_by{box{<0,-3,-.1>,<3,0,.1>}}translate z*15finish{ambient 1}}//POV35


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From: Jack
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 30 Nov 2001 13:41:53
Message: <3c07d2f1@news.povray.org>
I just downloaded it.   :-)

Ask and ye shall receive.

Well, except for raises this.

Thanks to whoever.

Best regards,
Jack


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 30 Nov 2001 14:56:34
Message: <3c07e472@news.povray.org>
In article <3c07c685$1@news.povray.org> , "Jack" <Jac### [at] Brookscom> 
wrote:

> Is Beta-8 or final release going to be posted today?

You really think we would release a final version with more than 25 known
bugs?   POV-Ray isn't Windows! ;-)

    Thorsten

____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich
e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg

I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org


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From: JRG
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 30 Nov 2001 17:47:35
Message: <3c080c87$1@news.povray.org>
Just curious: how many beta steps occured in 3.1 version?

--
Jonathan.
"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3c07e472@news.povray.org...
> In article <3c07c685$1@news.povray.org> , "Jack" <Jac### [at] Brookscom>
> wrote:
>
> > Is Beta-8 or final release going to be posted today?
>
> You really think we would release a final version with more than 25 known
> bugs?   POV-Ray isn't Windows! ;-)
>
>     Thorsten
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Thorsten Froehlich
> e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg
>
> I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
> Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org


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From: Mahalis
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 30 Nov 2001 18:01:21
Message: <3c080fc1$1@news.povray.org>
"JRG" wrote...
> Just curious: how many beta steps occured in 3.1 version? [hint hint]

True, there probably weren't as many, but with all these complicated new
features, what exactly would you expect?


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From: POVRay
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 30 Nov 2001 21:27:44
Message: <3c084020$1@news.povray.org>
> > Just curious: how many beta steps occured in 3.1 version? [hint hint]
>
> True, there probably weren't as many, but with all these complicated new
> features, what exactly would you expect?
>

Did it go to 'g' as it was known as 3.1g?

tgq


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 30 Nov 2001 22:30:55
Message: <3C084F6B.C371D68@pacbell.net>
POVRay wrote:
> 
> > > Just curious: how many beta steps occured in 3.1 version? [hint hint]
> >
> > True, there probably weren't as many, but with all these complicated new
> > features, what exactly would you expect?
> >
> 
> Did it go to 'g' as it was known as 3.1g?

POV-Ray v3.1 went through 6 public beta versions before final release.
Once it was released officially there were still some rather serious
bugs found and fixed. Each official release that has an upgrade is
assigned an alpha designator with the first official release build
designated with an "a". There were (I seem to recall) a couple of
revisions that did not even make it out to the public. For example
I think POV-Ray v3.1c was skipped and went straight to POV-Ray v3.1d
from v3.1b. POV-Ray v3.1g was the last official build released of
the v3.1 versions of the program. It is not unthinkable that even
after the official release of v3.5a that there will still be some
final revisions released afterwards to squash serious unwanted
bugs.

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 05:43:33
Message: <3c08b454@news.povray.org>
Mahalis <don### [at] fakeycom> wrote:
: True, there probably weren't as many, but with all these complicated new
: features, what exactly would you expect?

  I personally prefer 50 betas and then get a high-quality product, than
5 betas and a buggy program.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 06:04:11
Message: <3C08B935.C8708D95@gmx.de>
Warp wrote:
> 
>   I personally prefer 50 betas and then get a high-quality product, than
> 5 betas and a buggy program.
> 

But you know that 50 betas at the current frequency will take years until
the final release.  I think some more beta versions don't hurt if this
improves the quality of the final product, but 50 is definitely beyond the
optimum IMO.

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 06:23:30
Message: <3c08bdb2@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
: But you know that 50 betas at the current frequency will take years until
: the final release.

  I have time. Where's the hurry?-)

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Alf Peake
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 10:03:49
Message: <3c08f155@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3c08bdb2@news.povray.org...
> Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> : But you know that 50 betas at the current frequency will take
years until
> : the final release.
>
>   I have time. Where's the hurry?-)

As someone with a _bus pass_ I don't and I am ;-)

--
Alf

http://www.peake42.freeserve.co.uk/
http://www.qsl.net/gw3srg/
gw3### [at] thersgbnet


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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 14:38:28
Message: <3c0931b4@news.povray.org>
Ditto - given my stress levels I'm not too sure I'll be around long enough
to see 3.5 finished let alone 4!

Mick


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 14:45:15
Message: <3c09334b@news.povray.org>
In article <3C0### [at] pacbellnet> , Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet>  
wrote:

> POV-Ray v3.1 went through 6 public beta versions before final release.
> Once it was released officially there were still some rather serious
> bugs found and fixed. Each official release that has an upgrade is
> assigned an alpha designator with the first official release build
> designated with an "a". There were (I seem to recall) a couple of
> revisions that did not even make it out to the public.

Change31.doc that comes with the source code tells everybody the whole
story:

19 alpha versions (none released to the public)
26 beta versions (6 released, but I think only 5 released to the public)
8 final versions

The final versions started with 3.1.  I think 3.1a followed just two weeks
after that, and I think 3.1 wasn't or was only for a very short time
available outside CompuServe.  I am sure 3.1c and 3.1f were never released
to the public.  I am not sure about 3.1b...

Note that for 3.5 we so far have not used letter sub-releases since
3.5.alpha.3h which dates back to 3/29/00.

I think a more accurate measurement is the time the 3.1 beta test ran.  It
started on March 13th 1998.  The first final version was released exactly
six month later.  The beta test for 3.5 started September 4th, so compared
to 3.1 this would put a release sometime in early March, which I personally
think is a realistic timeframe.  However, the POV-Team is on no schedule
regarding a final release and the above date is just what I *personally*
think is realistic.


    Thorsten


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 16:48:26
Message: <3c09502a@news.povray.org>
Aw, come on! You people are raytracers! Waiting is a second nature to you!
:)

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Mahalis
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 16:50:46
Message: <3c0950b6$1@news.povray.org>
> Waiting is a second nature to you!

First.

<g>


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 1 Dec 2001 17:00:39
Message: <3C095387.4097077@pacbell.net>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:

> Change31.doc that comes with the source code tells everybody the whole
> story:

As I was going from memory I would have to say I was pretty close :)

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Thierry B 
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 3 Dec 2001 04:04:46
Message: <3C0B40D3.42840888@chez.com>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
> > Is Beta-8 or final release going to be posted today?
> 
> You really think we would release a final version with more than 25 known
> bugs?   POV-Ray isn't Windows! ;-)
> 

	So give us a Linux and/or Solaris version, please...

-- 
Thierry     exposant de trucs bizarres     http://la.buvette.org/exPOV/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 3 Dec 2001 08:21:44
Message: <slrna0mv39.8hk.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 10:07:31 +0100, Thierry B. wrote:
> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
>> 
>> > Is Beta-8 or final release going to be posted today?
>> 
>> You really think we would release a final version with more than 25 known
>> bugs?   POV-Ray isn't Windows! ;-)
>> 
> 
> 	So give us a Linux and/or Solaris version, please...
> 

Right after y'all start giving us a little patience.

--
#macro R(L P)sphere{L __}cylinder{L P __}#end#macro P(_1)union{R(z+_ z)R(-z _-z)
R(_-z*3_+z)torus{1__ clipped_by{plane{_ 0}}}translate z+_1}#end#macro S(_)9-(_1-
_)*(_1-_)#end#macro Z(_1 _ __)union{P(_)P(-_)R(y-z-1_)translate.1*_1-y*8pigment{
rgb<S(7)S(5)S(3)>}}#if(_1)Z(_1-__,_,__)#end#end Z(10x*-2,.2)camera{rotate x*90}


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From: PoD
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 5 Dec 2001 07:05:55
Message: <3C0E0A5B.6010007@internode.on.net>
Ron Parker wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 10:07:31 +0100, Thierry B. wrote:
> 
>>Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
>>
>>>>Is Beta-8 or final release going to be posted today?
>>>>
>>>You really think we would release a final version with more than 25 known
>>>bugs?   POV-Ray isn't Windows! ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>	So give us a Linux and/or Solaris version, please...
>>
>>
> 
> Right after y'all start giving us a little patience.
> 

Why not a source code release? Wouldn't that  be the best way for people 
to find bugs and suggest fixes?

-- 
PoD.


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 5 Dec 2001 08:21:11
Message: <slrna0s7q9.eqt.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 22:21:55 +1030, PoD wrote:
> Why not a source code release? Wouldn't that  be the best way for people 
> to find bugs and suggest fixes?

You know the answer to this one.

--
#macro R(L P)sphere{L __}cylinder{L P __}#end#macro P(_1)union{R(z+_ z)R(-z _-z)
R(_-z*3_+z)torus{1__ clipped_by{plane{_ 0}}}translate z+_1}#end#macro S(_)9-(_1-
_)*(_1-_)#end#macro Z(_1 _ __)union{P(_)P(-_)R(y-z-1_)translate.1*_1-y*8pigment{
rgb<S(7)S(5)S(3)>}}#if(_1)Z(_1-__,_,__)#end#end Z(10x*-2,.2)camera{rotate x*90}


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From: PoD
Subject: Re: Beta-8?
Date: 6 Dec 2001 11:16:14
Message: <3C0F9600.5040906@internode.on.net>
Ron Parker wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 22:21:55 +1030, PoD wrote:
> 
>>Why not a source code release? Wouldn't that  be the best way for people 
>>to find bugs and suggest fixes?
>>
> 
> You know the answer to this one.
> 


I can think of a few poor excuses but not a good answer.


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