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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Website/forum link colors
Date: 16 Aug 2022 17:29:02
Message: <pan$87ea7$c1f8ebdc$6f1b4c76$dbff91df@nospam.com>
On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 01:11:27 +1000, Chris Cason wrote:

> I'm open to changing the visited link colour, but I'd prefer first to
> see examples of some sites where a full blue unvisited link (which is
> what we use) is used alongside a visibly different but not 'clashing'
> visited link colour.

Here's a good reference for web accessibility:

https://webaim.org/blog/wcag-2-0-and-link-colors/

Looks like the recommendation is either a colour that's specific for 
links, or a colour scheme that's dependent on the state.  No real best 
practice for using it or not (Google uses the state and indicates as such; 
Microsoft doesn't).

I think a visited link colour change is helpful, as often times I visit a 
site and am trying to remember where I saw something, and the visual 
indicator can be helpful to track that down.

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: jr
Subject: Re: Website/forum link colors
Date: 17 Aug 2022 03:00:00
Message: <web.62fc91c0b0b8b989ecf5a77b6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> ...
> I think a complicating factor is that the alternating "ledger" highlighting
> colors are white and blue - which enhances the contrast enough in some cases,
> and washes it out in others.

istr seeing blue and magenta (visited) links in the late 90s/turn of the
century, and think they would work (well), even with the ledger "lines".


regards, jr.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Website/forum link colors
Date: 17 Aug 2022 04:05:40
Message: <62fca154$1@news.povray.org>
Op 17-8-2022 om 08:59 schreef jr:
> 
> istr seeing blue and magenta (visited) links in the late 90s/turn of the
> century, and think they would work (well), even with the ledger "lines".
> 

If this Old Guy may be allowed to add his unworthy contribution, I agree 
with jr. I am using Startpage (www.startpage.com) on Firefox, and with 
the dark background option switched on, which agrees better with my old 
eyes. Blue and magenta (I think) are used there to my entire satisfaction.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: Website/forum link colors
Date: 17 Aug 2022 06:03:14
Message: <62fcbce2$1@news.povray.org>
On 17/08/2022 06:27, Bald Eagle wrote:
> because having used the Internet since its inception (using Lynx and Netscape's
Mosaic), I remember

As have I. I set up povray.org in 1994, after all, and Lynx/Mosaic were 
my first browsers ...

> 2.  Whatever's going on NOW is ... trendy.  And who cares.   This is our little
> corner of the internet, and it's *** POV-Ray ***.   Do we EVER do anything the
> way everyone else does it?
> 
> 3.   "Be yourself.  Be different.  Celebrate diversity.  Carve out your own
> niche.  Do it your own unique way.  You do you."

We're talking about a color scheme that has not changed in literally 20 
years. Clearly if I was worried about keeping up with what everyone else 
was doing I would have done so sometime in the last two decades ...

Given the colors have been as they are for so long it should hardly be 
surprising to anyone that I would look around the web to see what others 
are doing so I can understand what is "wrong" about our styles, in the 
belief that perhaps things have changed and what people are expecting 
from povray.org *no longer matches* expectations that people have 
learned from other sites.

I think this is not an unreasonable belief to have had since what else 
am I supposed to think? That it's been OK for 20 years but now it's not 
OK for some reason totally *unrelated* to anything that's happened 
elsewhere in the intarwebs?

So when I go looking around the web for examples that show why I'm doing 
it *wrong* I just end up confused. As I pointed out even the W3C 
(standard-setters of the web) use similarly close shades between visited 
& unvisited.

I'm not just going to yoink some random colour into the stylesheet 
unless I know it's going to work for everyone AND be consistent with the 
overall theme for the site, because if there's one thing I've learned 
from working on this project for the last quarter-century is that I can 
never make everyone happy and changing something to suit one group of 
people will inevitably make another group unhappy.

If someone wants to provide a mock-up of a page with modified colors 
that fits into the existing theme but also makes the difference more 
obvious then please feel free and I'll look at it. I'm open to changing 
it. But y'all need to give me a bit of help here if you want it to happen.

-- Chris


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From: Thorsten
Subject: Re: Website/forum link colors
Date: 17 Aug 2022 06:17:34
Message: <62fcc03e$1@news.povray.org>
On 17.08.2022 11:58, Chris Cason wrote:
> We're talking about a color scheme that has not changed in literally 20 
> years. Clearly if I was worried about keeping up with what everyone else 
> was doing I would have done so sometime in the last two decades ...

In deed. It would be possible to add a third style for it on the 
"Personalise" page where the underlining can be enabled, but I really 
don't remember how much work this would end up being on other ends of 
the old PHP code...

Thorsten


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