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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 12:00:01
Message: <web.4a312904ff14385ae1654840@news.povray.org>
Real Americans V. The Plague

When a REAL American sees a topic they don't agree with, they usually ignore it

of view, I'll defend to my death your right to say it".

The plague of mankind will try to silence someone when his or her meager
intellect is threatened by a new idea. Like the Jews wanted Jesus silenced,
like Warp and Jim Henderson want me silenced. And apparently it is the Truth
that is most unacceptable to these types.

There is a movie called "How I learned to stop worrying". In this movie there is
line that goes something like, fluoride in the water is the biggest commie plot
there is. That is fairly accurate.

Fluorine atoms have the highest electro negativity of all atoms. A fluoride is a
compound containing one or more fluorine atoms. Some people are unwittingly
taking prescription fluoride!

You should NOT be taking even the smallest amounts of fluoride. And this is what
fluoride can do to you:

Non-Human Toxicity Excerpts : / acute poisoning if sufficient fluoride is
absorbed ... fluoride ion increases capillary permeability and also produces a
coagulation defect. these actions lead to hemorrhagic gastroenteritis &
hemorrhages. congestion. & edema in various organs incl the brain. clinical
manifestations ... include excitability. muscle tremors. weakness. urination.
defecation. salivation. emesis . sudden collapse. clonic convulsions. coma. &
death due to resp & cardiac failure. cyanosis & early rigor mortis ... fluoride
Ref: Booth, N.H., L.E. McDonald (eds.). Veterinary Pharmacology and
Therapeutics. 5th ed. Ames, Iowa: Iowa State University Press, 1982. 1014

^Four epidemiological studies have noted a correlation between increased
fluoride and low IQ.[26]:205-223 The most rigorous of these compared an area



The result of fluoride in the water is making people stupid and sick, making
them TRULY NEED and crave REAL medicine that is, fortunately for the FDA and
drug companies, illegal.

Now here's your reality:

Best conspiracy movie ever made, The Third Man, Ferris Wheel Scene rendered by
Ben Stein:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/business/yourmoney/29every.html
When You Fly in First Class, It's Easy to Forget the Dots

ONE of the best conspiracy movies ever made is the perfect British classic, "The
Third Man." In the most haunting scene, the villain, played adroitly by Orson
Welles, takes Joseph Cotten, the good guy, up in a Ferris wheel. The villain,
named Harry Lime, has been selling adulterated penicillin in postwar Vienna,
making a fortune and causing children to become paralyzed and die.

Mr. Cotten's character, a pulp fiction writer named Holly Martins, asks him how
he could do such an evil thing for money. The two men are at the top of the
Ferris wheel, and the people below them look like tiny dots. Mr. Welles's
villain looks down and says, "Tell me, would you really feel any pity if one of

stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, or would you
calculate how many dots you could afford to spare?"



Harris, Cho Seung-Hui at Virginia Tech, NIU's Kazmierczak by the side effect of

matter to fluoride poisoned victim.


Oh and REAL Americans fight back when their own government declares war on them
and their GOD GIVEN medicine. That would describe yours truly, aQ

Email for the puppet office:
pre### [at] messageswhitehousegov

Do your research first:
http://members.aceweb.com/alphaquad/page.html
Encyclopedia links.

Revelation or BS? You decide!

Warp calls me a troll for posting my information in off-topic. The purpose of
posting here is 2-fold. It BELONGS in "off-topic" and is posted because I LOVE
some of you and don't want to see you become another statistic.

With love, oh yes with love, aQ


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 12:11:12
Message: <4a312ca0@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
> Real Americans V. The Plague



Did you forget to take your meds again?

-- 
~Mike


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From: JeffBTX
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 12:50:00
Message: <web.4a3134eafcfd56f31085efc60@news.povray.org>
First; CAUTION with that term "REAL American". What is a REAL American? I could
easily say that the only REAL Americans are those that have sacrificed and
endured hardships for their country - as opposed to civilians who haven't (and
wouldn't). My paternal grandmother, who grew up on a Navajo reservation in New
Mexico, might say that the only REAL Americans are Native Americans. Rush
Limbaugh would say that the only REAL Americans are card-carrying registered
Republicans - EVEN if they are hypocritical drug addicts who are addicted to
pain killers, and apparantly eat enough food to result in an enormous girth,
enough food in one week to probably keep a small family alive for a month or
more.

Accuracy;
The full SUB-title was "How I learned to stop worrying and learned to love the
bomb.". The TITLE of the movie was "Doctor Strangelove". A fiction. An
entertainment. A parody, actually. I have it on DVD by the way, excellent
movie. To paraphrase a fiction (especially this type of fiction, in the context
that you used it) in an attempt to prove a point detracts from the validity of
your post. It looks foolish.

By the way, another favorite classic of mine is "Seven Days in May". Personally,
I root for General James Mattoon Scott. Being a military retiree, and a
stereotypical "angry, disillusioned veteran", that would be no suprise. I would
be DELIGHTED to see a large force march on Pennsylvania Avenue, and "kick some
rear". NOT in/for a military takeover (as such) (or maybe, YES!), you
understand, but to force government officials to do their jobs. Do their jobs
efficiently, with competence, and with the welfare of the people and the
country a priority (rather than other agendas).

Logic;
Okay... it may very well be that some people sometime who have ingested
flouridated water at some point might have experienced some vague symptoms
similar to what you describe. I don't know. But how many MILLIONS (billions?)
of "flouridated people" have lived long, healthy lives without ill effect? Your
post is alarmist.

As to " ... wanting you silenced ... "; I don't know the details, but I CAN
sympathize. Recently, in a games forum, a supposed "vietnam veteran" (who
served maybe 2 years) who's "life was saved by the VA" (Veterans
Administration) banned me from his games server for criticizing the VA. In the
forum, he stated that I "should move to another country" (along with other
insults). Me - who served in the military for 22 years. My criticism was based
on MY experience with the VA, on my SPECIFIC case, and I had just as much right
to an opinion as he did. This person (it became apparant as time went on) is a
petty hypocrite with a tin god complex - an "anti-veteran veteran" - who just
wanted to "show off". My critical comment was a ONE-LINER, embedded within a
post on another subject altogether.

But in the long run, one is happier if one just forgets about it. So what? There
are other things in life that are far more worthy of attention.

Far more dangerous to society are those that "go off half cocked", and force
invalid concepts on society that in the long run have no real, tangible effect
and cost everyone hard earned money.

If it worries you, water filtration systems are fairly cheap and convenient.
Those Brita Water Pitchers come to mind.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 13:40:00
Message: <web.4a31415ffcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> If it worries you, water filtration systems are fairly cheap and convenient.
> Those Brita Water Pitchers come to mind.

The only part I read so far, I'll try to read more of your post.

Gravity-forced filtration are the worst, pressure-forced is a little better but
I have tested the water from this type and the fluoride molecule is too small
to be filtered out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapor_compression_distiller


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 13:41:26
Message: <4A3141C6.7080807@hotmail.com>
On 11-6-2009 17:55, alphaQuad wrote:
> Real Americans V. The Plague
> 
> When a REAL American sees a topic they don't agree with, they usually ignore it

> of view, I'll defend to my death your right to say it".
> 
> The plague of mankind will try to silence someone when his or her meager
> intellect is threatened by a new idea. Like the Jews wanted Jesus silenced,
> like Warp and Jim Henderson want me silenced. And apparently it is the Truth
> that is most unacceptable to these types.

I think you misunderstood them. Their point was something along the line 
of: There is no point in reiterating a discussion especially if the only 
point seems to be to restart a flaming competition. That may not have 
been your intention but if so that was not clear from your post.

Discussions can be reopened only if new facts become available or new 
and interesting points of view are presented.

Warp is well known for being allergic to discussions about religion and 
in particular when conservative Christians might come under attack. As 
such you can disregard his opinion, it is well-known and found 
irrelevant by a sufficiently large sub-population here.

Also be careful with statements like 'Like the Jews wanted Jesus 
silenced' there are people here that know enough of what actual happened 
in biblical times to dispute that. Again, we have had that discussion 
before, so there is no need to reopen the debate. KTHXBYE

[snipped the usual conspiracy theories]


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 13:50:00
Message: <web.4a3142a2fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
> > Real Americans V. The Plague
>

>
> Did you forget to take your meds again?
>
> --
> ~Mike

Hi Mike, I have an older brother named Mike. He once took a kitten and
repeatedly threw it out the second story window into the swimming pool, then
running down the stairs and grabbing the poor thing before it could get away
only to repeat the torture. He would not stop until I threatened to tell
someone.

As for meds? Your kind has made it too difficult get real meds, so you see it
has nothing to do with memory.

Thanks for the moronic post! :)


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:00:01
Message: <web.4a31460dfcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> before, so there is no need to reopen the debate. KTHXBYE

Point taken and accepted, but if I can stop one person from being poisoned by
the FDA, I'll consider it an accomplishment. Thank you my dear Andrel


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:15:00
Message: <web.4a3148f6fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

> Far more dangerous to society are those that "go off half cocked", and force
> invalid concepts on society that in the long run have no real, tangible effect
> and cost everyone hard earned money.


"force invalid concepts", Earth to Jeff, come in Jeff!

"cost everyone hard earned money" Yah right I cost people money by posting
information. No words come to mind to describe the level of BS you post.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:20:01
Message: <web.4a314a73fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

> Logic;
> Okay... it may very well be that some people sometime who have ingested
> flouridated water at some point might have experienced some vague symptoms
> similar to what you describe. I don't know. But how many MILLIONS (billions?)
> of "flouridated people" have lived long, healthy lives without ill effect? Your post
is alarmist.

Better logic;
How much happier and longer would they live without it? How many fewer school
massacres would there be without fluoride?


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:35:00
Message: <web.4a314d94fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

> As to " ... wanting you silenced ... "; I don't know the details, but I CAN
> sympathize. Recently, in a games forum, a supposed "vietnam veteran" (who
> served maybe 2 years) who's "life was saved by the VA" (Veterans
> Administration) banned me from his games server for criticizing the VA. In the
> forum, he stated that I "should move to another country" (along with other
> insults). Me - who served in the military for 22 years. My criticism was based
> on MY experience with the VA, on my SPECIFIC case, and I had just as much right
> to an opinion as he did. This person (it became apparant as time went on) is a
> petty hypocrite with a tin god complex - an "anti-veteran veteran" - who just
> wanted to "show off". My critical comment was a ONE-LINER, embedded within a
> post on another subject altogether.

My condolences for your VA plight and appreciation for your service to your
country. You Sir obviously have some stories to tell. Trying to silence someone
is wrong, immature and about 50 other adjectives I'll not go into, by WHATEVER
method is employed.


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