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Italy is the only European country to be downgraded in the last year from the
category of "countries with free press" to countries where press freedom is
"partial".
The Best are the nations of Northern Europe and Scandinavian countries: Iceland,
Finland, Norway, Denmark and Sweden (top five worldwide).
No controversy here, I believe that *Freedom House* says the right.
I am an italian *partially free*, but I *already knew it*.
Current situation? Maybe this:
#declare Italy = (1 / Anything);
(I want to be a Danish, and drink freely the good Danish beer in the long
Scandinavian afternoons). :-)
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Carlo
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On 2-5-2009 10:29, Carlo C. wrote:
> Italy is the only European country to be downgraded in the last year from the
> category of "countries with free press" to countries where press freedom is
> "partial".
Do you have a source?
> The Best are the nations of Northern Europe and Scandinavian countries: Iceland,
> Finland, Norway, Denmark and Sweden (top five worldwide).
>
> No controversy here, I believe that *Freedom House* says the right.
> I am an italian *partially free*, but I *already knew it*.
>
> Current situation? Maybe this:
> #declare Italy = (1 / Anything);
>
> (I want to be a Danish, and drink freely the good Danish beer in the long
> Scandinavian afternoons). :-)
If you go north there are longer afternoons, in the tourist season. If
you live there you'll find out there are also shorter afternoons.
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
> On 2-5-2009 10:29, Carlo C. wrote:
> > Italy is the only European country to be downgraded in the last year from the
> > category of "countries with free press" to countries where press freedom is
> > "partial".
>
> Do you have a source?
>
http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=445
>
> If you go north there are longer afternoons, in the tourist season. If
> you live there you'll find out there are also shorter afternoons.
I wrote from point of view romantic/rhetoric/macaronic, not seriously.
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Carlo
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Carlo C. <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> The Best are the nations of Northern Europe and Scandinavian countries: Iceland,
> Finland, Norway, Denmark and Sweden (top five worldwide).
Note that even though there's no governmental pressure on what the press
can publish, there may still be (and actually *is*) cultural and sociological
pressure on what kind of things the press will allow itself to publish.
Self-censorship in certain subjects is quite common.
Also "free press" in no way implies that the press is unbiased. While some
very small newspapers may be more willing to publish even more "taboo" points
of view, it's rather common that the big ones tend to be rather biased on
how they approach certain "taboo" subjects. In extreme cases the press at
large may engage in open witch-hunting against certain movements or even
individuals (it *has* happened, even here).
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- Warp
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> If you go north there are longer afternoons, in the tourist season. If
> you live there you'll find out there are also shorter afternoons.
Denmark north? Haha. Denmark is very south! :P
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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Carlo C. <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > The Best are the nations of Northern Europe and Scandinavian countries: Iceland,
> > Finland, Norway, Denmark and Sweden (top five worldwide).
>
> Note that even though there's no governmental pressure on what the press
> can publish, there may still be (and actually *is*) cultural and sociological
> pressure on what kind of things the press will allow itself to publish.
> Self-censorship in certain subjects is quite common.
>
> Also "free press" in no way implies that the press is unbiased. While some
> very small newspapers may be more willing to publish even more "taboo" points
> of view, it's rather common that the big ones tend to be rather biased on
> how they approach certain "taboo" subjects. In extreme cases the press at
> large may engage in open witch-hunting against certain movements or even
> individuals (it *has* happened, even here).
>
> --
> - Warp
From www.corriere.it:
The main problem of Italy, according to Karin KARLEK, the researcher who led the
study, it is Berlusconi. "His return in 2008, has reawakened fears about the
concentration of media in public and one private person" he says. Other
factors: the abuse of defamation complaints against journalists and the
escalation of physical intimidation by organized crime.
These are more or less the reasons for the downgrade.
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Carlo
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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > If you go north there are longer afternoons, in the tourist season. If
> > you live there you'll find out there are also shorter afternoons.
>
> Denmark north? Haha. Denmark is very south! :P
>
> --
> - Warp
Another point:
*Freedom to not-print*.
Bad news? Not reported! Simple and easy.
Occurs frequently here, in the south!
;-)
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Carlo
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On 2-5-2009 11:06, Carlo C. wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> On 2-5-2009 10:29, Carlo C. wrote:
>>> Italy is the only European country to be downgraded in the last year from the
>>> category of "countries with free press" to countries where press freedom is
>>> "partial".
>> Do you have a source?
>>
>
> http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=445
It is not on that page. On page 16 there is a small 2009 map that I can
not find anywhere else on the site. That has indeed italy again in
yellow (2004-2006 it was also yellow).
It seems as if the Italians every now and then vote for a partial free
press.
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> On 2-5-2009 11:06, Carlo C. wrote:
> > andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >> On 2-5-2009 10:29, Carlo C. wrote:
> >>> Italy is the only European country to be downgraded in the last year from the
> >>> category of "countries with free press" to countries where press freedom is
> >>> "partial".
> >> Do you have a source?
> >>
> >
> > http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=445
>
> It is not on that page. On page 16 there is a small 2009 map that I can
> not find anywhere else on the site. That has indeed italy again in
> yellow (2004-2006 it was also yellow).
>
> It seems as if the Italians every now and then vote for a partial free
> press.
The Italian newspapers led me into error, sorry.
In summary:
- Political right is ok.
- Civil liberties is downgraded from 1 to 2. :-(
The Freedom status is still *FREE*.
But Italy is the *only* country in Western Europe downgraded.
http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/fiw09/FIW09_Tables&GraphsForWeb.pdf
In italian, "Sei un osso duro", Andrel!
:-)
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Carlo
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On Sat, 2 May 2009 04:29:07 EDT, "Carlo C." <nomail@nomail> wrote:
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>(I want to be a Danish
You want to be a pastry? :-)
We, in the UK, are in the world of 1984.
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Stephen
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