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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 14:50:02
Message: <op.vvug9judufxv4h@xena>
Why does this look so much like a render? The moon looks so huge and the  
sun so small...

http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sunset.jpg

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-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 15:07:29
Message: <4dd80d71@news.povray.org>
Nekar Xenos <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Why does this look so much like a render? The moon looks so huge and the  
> sun so small...

> http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sunset.jpg

  Is that supposed to be a photograph? Without a technical explanation of
how it's possible, I'm not ready to accept it as one (at least not one which
hasn't been post-processed).

  In comics and cartoons (especially anime) sometimes a ginormous Moon is
shown, for dramatic effect. This is not, in fact, completely impossible,
at least if the Moon is very close to (or even partially covered by) the
horizon: The effect can be achieved with a photograph by using a really
strong zoom and aiming at the horizon, where the Moon is. This is especially
effective if there happens to be some detail (such as a house or a tree) in
front of the Moon just as the photo is taken. It makes the Moon look enormous
compared to the detail in front of it. (Of course with such a strong zoom
there will be no perspective to speak of.)

  However, the relative size of the Moon and the Sun, as seen from here,
is about the same. Using this zooming trick would enlarge both. (Both are
so far away that it would make no practical difference in how large they
look.)

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 15:36:56
Message: <4dd81458$1@news.povray.org>
On 21/05/2011 7:49 PM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
> Why does this look so much like a render? The moon looks so huge and the
> sun so small...
>
> http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sunset.jpg
>
>
Render.
What Warp said and for the crescent to be in the position it is in. The 
image would need to be taken at the equator and there is no lens flare.

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     Stephen


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 18:09:50
Message: <op.vvuqikfmufxv4h@xena>
On Sat, 21 May 2011 21:07:29 +0200, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

> Nekar Xenos <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Why does this look so much like a render? The moon looks so huge and the
>> sun so small...
>
>> http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sunset.jpg
>
>   Is that supposed to be a photograph? Without a technical explanation of
> how it's possible, I'm not ready to accept it as one (at least not one  
> which
> hasn't been post-processed).
>
>   In comics and cartoons (especially anime) sometimes a ginormous Moon is
> shown, for dramatic effect. This is not, in fact, completely impossible,
> at least if the Moon is very close to (or even partially covered by) the
> horizon: The effect can be achieved with a photograph by using a really
> strong zoom and aiming at the horizon, where the Moon is. This is  
> especially
> effective if there happens to be some detail (such as a house or a tree)  
> in
> front of the Moon just as the photo is taken. It makes the Moon look  
> enormous
> compared to the detail in front of it. (Of course with such a strong zoom
> there will be no perspective to speak of.)
>
>   However, the relative size of the Moon and the Sun, as seen from here,
> is about the same. Using this zooming trick would enlarge both. (Both are
> so far away that it would make no practical difference in how large they
> look.)
>

That is the reason I don't understand it. Here it is in the original page  
according to which it was taken at the north pole...
http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/?page_id=2306

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-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 18:21:41
Message: <4dd83af5$1@news.povray.org>
> That is the reason I don't understand it. Here it is in the original
 > page according to which it was taken at the north pole...
 > http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/?page_id=2306

http://www.google.com/search?q=north+pole+sun+moon

  - Slime


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 18:33:07
Message: <op.vvurldkhufxv4h@xena>
On Sun, 22 May 2011 00:22:00 +0200, Slime <pov### [at] slimelandcom> wrote:

>  > That is the reason I don't understand it. Here it is in the original
>  > page according to which it was taken at the north pole...
>  > http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/?page_id=2306
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=north+pole+sun+moon
>
>   - Slime

lol

I'm not sure you would get water like that at the North Pole either...

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-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 20:47:55
Message: <4dd85d3b@news.povray.org>

> Why does this look so much like a render? The moon looks so huge and the
> sun so small...
>
> http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sunset.jpg
>
>

An old prank. Rendered image, as this view is absolutely impossible in 
real life.



Alain


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 20:50:35
Message: <4dd85ddb$1@news.povray.org>

> On 21/05/2011 7:49 PM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>> Why does this look so much like a render? The moon looks so huge and the
>> sun so small...
>>
>> http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sunset.jpg
>>
>>
>>
> Render.
> What Warp said and for the crescent to be in the position it is in. The
> image would need to be taken at the equator and there is no lens flare.
>
Also, the sun would be the same apparent size as the moon.


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From: RobF
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 21 May 2011 21:55:01
Message: <web.4dd86bc8256f81bf7ab7c0b80@news.povray.org>
Alain <aze### [at] qwertyorg> wrote:

> > On 21/05/2011 7:49 PM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
> >> Why does this look so much like a render? The moon looks so huge and the
> >> sun so small...
> >>
> >> http://www.marlothparkhonoraryrangers.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sunset.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Render.
> > What Warp said and for the crescent to be in the position it is in. The
> > image would need to be taken at the equator and there is no lens flare.
> >
> Also, the sun would be the same apparent size as the moon.

This image has that "Terragen look". Here's the original on the author's
website:
http://www.gatetonowhere.de/gallery/details.php?image_id=63

Rob.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Real or Render?
Date: 22 May 2011 01:35:00
Message: <web.4dd89ffb256f81bfc274a64d0@news.povray.org>
photoshop


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