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From: Leroy
Subject: Wish me luck! Computer just died!
Date: 1 Jul 2025 22:55:00
Message: <web.68649d8c2b59dafe3773ccff712fc00@news.povray.org>
They don't make 'em like they used to. Yes my new 64 bit win10 just wouldn't
start. No power so I thought. No motherboard is what I got. So now I got to get
every thing back to normal. At lease I have all my hard drives with all that
data.

I'll have fun :{


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From: jr
Subject: Re: Wish me luck! Computer just died!
Date: 2 Jul 2025 00:25:00
Message: <web.6864b3a8256b64773ecaab5e6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,


"Leroy" <whe### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> They don't make 'em like they used to. Yes my new 64 bit win10 just wouldn't
> start. No power so I thought. No motherboard is what I got. So now I got to get
> every thing back to normal. At lease I have all my hard drives with all that
> data.
>
> I'll have fun :{

will keep my fingers crossed.


regards, jr.


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From: Leroy
Subject: Re: Wish me luck! Computer just died!
Date: 8 Jul 2025 15:40:00
Message: <web.686d738a256b647738c19d3cf712fc00@news.povray.org>
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> hi,
>
> will keep my fingers crossed.
>
>
> regards, jr.

Hope the backlash from the trouble I've had didn't hurt your fingers!

 I got a "new" computer from my local dealer. First it has win11 on it. I wasn't
happy, but you have to upgrade sooner or later. It was 'game' computer and has a
solid state hard drive so I couldn't just drop my drives into it and continue on
like nothing has happened.
 I spent the last week getting things backs to the way I like. Setting up the
display, shortcuts to my many programs, disabling lots win11 stuff. I was right
in the middle of working on an animation when my computer died and I was ready
to start back on it. AND THEN...

 Have you ever ran in to this? I loaded a wave file into Audacity(audio editor)
and the first .5 seconds was silent. Audacity showed the wave form but when
played the first .5 second was silent. While trying to find the exact drop I
selected segments closer & closer to the .5 of a second. I found that no mater
where in the wave you selected it wouldn't play the first .5 of a second of it.
So I went to Audacity forum and ask about this. While waiting for an answer I
tested other audio software and found that everything has that .5 of a second
drop.
 The only audio software that doesn't seem to drop is Anvil. But it has problems
with volume control and playing more than one note at a time.

Tomorrow The computer going back!


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Wish me luck! Computer just died!
Date: 14 Jul 2025 10:11:38
Message: <6875101a@news.povray.org>
On 2025-07-08 15:39 (-4), Leroy wrote:
> 
>  I got a "new" computer from my local dealer. First it has win11 on it. I wasn't
> happy, but you have to upgrade sooner or later.

I'm in the midst of a hostile divorce from Microsoft.  We've been
separated since 2012, but with my latest computer, I learned the hard
way that they're starting to build Windows computers that are
incompatible with GNU/Linux dual boot.  It's time to cut loose; I
haven't really used the Windows partition since the POV-Ray 3.7 release
candidates anyway.  The alimony will be the fonts; I paid for them, I'm
keeping them.

My next computer will have GNU/Linux pre-installed.  It will not be from
a local dealer, because the local dealers only deal with the duopoly.


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Wish me luck! Computer just died!
Date: 14 Jul 2025 12:10:00
Message: <web.68752b0f256b6477f3961225979125@news.povray.org>
Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> On 2025-07-08 15:39 (-4), Leroy wrote:
> >
> >  I got a "new" computer from my local dealer. First it has win11 on it. I wasn't
> > happy, but you have to upgrade sooner or later.
>
> I learned the hard
> way that they're starting to build Windows computers that are
> incompatible with GNU/Linux dual boot.

"If the product is digital, then even if it still functions, we'll force you to
replace it via a new product cycle: we no longer support the old operating
system, and since your device is out of date (heh) it can't load the new OS, and
since all the apps now only function with the new OS, your device is useless."

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/last-gasp-landfill-economy


Revolt.


- BE


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Wish me luck! Computer just died!
Date: 14 Jul 2025 12:54:45
Message: <68753655$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 10:11:37 -0400, Cousin Ricky wrote:

> I learned the hard way that they're starting to build Windows computers
> that are incompatible with GNU/Linux dual boot.

Microsoft has never been particularly "friendly" with dual booting non-MS 
operating systems.  "Fast boot" certainly wreaks havoc with trying to dual 
boot, since it's essentially a "suspend to disk" type of functionality 
that bypasses the boot loader.

The introduction of secure boot also created problems, but Linux makers 
have adapted.  I run openSUSE Tumbleweed here, and it is fully supported 
for secure boot, and the modern grub bootloader can be used to dual boot 
Windows (with openSUSE's implementation, it generally will detect Windows 
and add it to the boot menu).

That said, I haven't used a Windows native partition on any of my personal 
PCs in years.  Got a few older machines and laptops that have ancient 
versions of Windows on them "just in case" (because updating firmware on 
those systems required Windows back then).  My main system now has never 
seen a local Windows installation (only in VMs for the rare times I need 
something very Windows-specific, like working on a presentation with a 
Powerpoint template that Libreoffice just won't work with).


-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Wish me luck! Computer just died!
Date: 14 Jul 2025 13:39:22
Message: <687540ca$1@news.povray.org>
On 2025-07-14 12:54 (-4), Jim Henderson wrote:
>   My main system now has never 
> seen a local Windows installation (only in VMs for the rare times I need 
> something very Windows-specific, like working on a presentation with a 
> Powerpoint template that Libreoffice just won't work with).

PowerPoint.  In the past few years, I've had to deal with PowerPoint for
the first time since the 1990s, and I can't blame LibreOffice for not
wanting to waste time with it.  PowerPoint has become a piece of shit!
It's alpha-quality software that I can't believe even Microsoft let out
the door.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Wish me luck! Computer just died!
Date: 14 Jul 2025 17:35:28
Message: <68757820$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 13:39:22 -0400, Cousin Ricky wrote:

> On 2025-07-14 12:54 (-4), Jim Henderson wrote:
>>   My main system now has never
>> seen a local Windows installation (only in VMs for the rare times I
>> need something very Windows-specific, like working on a presentation
>> with a Powerpoint template that Libreoffice just won't work with).
> 
> PowerPoint.  In the past few years, I've had to deal with PowerPoint for
> the first time since the 1990s, and I can't blame LibreOffice for not
> wanting to waste time with it.  PowerPoint has become a piece of shit!
> It's alpha-quality software that I can't believe even Microsoft let out
> the door.

Yeah, I really didn't want to use it, but I was asked to give a 
presentation to an organization, and that was the template they gave me.  
It really didn't work at all in LibreOffice, so that was my only option if 
I was going to present.

It worked OK.  I would have preferred Google Slides (which also wouldn't 
open the template properly) or LibreOffice.  Even Microsoft doesn't 
understand their own document formats - they tried to create ooxml 
converters themselves, and couldn't do so successfully.

The entire file format needs to be thrown in the trash, IMO.  Same for 
Word and Excel.

I've got a VM with the suite installed on Win 11 for just those 
circumstances when I have to have it.  But after exclusively using Linux 
on the desktop for over 20 years, I find the situations where I absolutely 
have to use Windows (or MS software at all) to be few and far between.

I'd honestly prefer to use a Mac (which I did for work for almost 10 
years) over Windows.
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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