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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Old threads
Date: 22 Jul 2018 04:26:01
Message: <5b543f99$1@news.povray.org>
How do I go back and read very old threads in Thunderbird? I know I can 
use the Web interface, but I prefer the news reader. Thanks.


Mike


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 22 Jul 2018 04:47:38
Message: <5b5444aa$1@news.povray.org>
On 22/07/2018 09:27, Mike Horvath wrote:
> How do I go back and read very old threads in Thunderbird? I know I can 
> use the Web interface, but I prefer the news reader. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Mike

You could un-subscribe then when you re-subscribe you will be asked if 
you want to download all the headers. Do it one group at a time or 
overnight.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 22 Jul 2018 07:02:38
Message: <5b54644e$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-7-2018 10:27, Mike Horvath wrote:
> How do I go back and read very old threads in Thunderbird? I know I can 
> use the Web interface, but I prefer the news reader. Thanks.
> 
> 

Have you checked your Account Settings for POV-Ray in Thunderbird? Go to 
'View settings for this account' and under POV-Ray go to 
'Synchronisation & Storage'. Check how you have set what has to be done 
with old messages (to recover disc space). Possibly you have put a limit 
there. Set to 'Don't delete any messages'. However, I think that you 
need to follow Stephen's advice too nonetheless.

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Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 22 Jul 2018 07:58:44
Message: <5b547174$1@news.povray.org>
On 22/07/2018 12:02, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 22-7-2018 10:27, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> How do I go back and read very old threads in Thunderbird? I know I 
>> can use the Web interface, but I prefer the news reader. Thanks.
>>
>>
> 
> Have you checked your Account Settings for POV-Ray in Thunderbird? Go to 
> 'View settings for this account' and under POV-Ray go to 
> 'Synchronisation & Storage'. Check how you have set what has to be done 
> with old messages (to recover disc space). Possibly you have put a limit 
> there. Set to 'Don't delete any messages'. However, I think that you 
> need to follow Stephen's advice too nonetheless.
> 

And backup your profile.
%APPDATA%\Thunderbird\Profiles\


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 23 Jul 2018 19:24:25
Message: <5b5663a9$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks!

Now I just need to figure out how to get TB to turn URLs that are longer 
than one line into proper links.

Mike


On 7/22/2018 7:02 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 22-7-2018 10:27, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> How do I go back and read very old threads in Thunderbird? I know I 
>> can use the Web interface, but I prefer the news reader. Thanks.
>>
>>
> 
> Have you checked your Account Settings for POV-Ray in Thunderbird? Go to 
> 'View settings for this account' and under POV-Ray go to 
> 'Synchronisation & Storage'. Check how you have set what has to be done 
> with old messages (to recover disc space). Possibly you have put a limit 
> there. Set to 'Don't delete any messages'. However, I think that you 
> need to follow Stephen's advice too nonetheless.
>


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 23 Jul 2018 20:43:23
Message: <5b56762b$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/23/2018 07:24 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> Thanks!
> 
> Now I just need to figure out how to get TB to turn URLs that are longer
> than one line into proper links.
> 
> Mike
> 

Share your secret...

One of my fantasies is to get the newsgroups to emit an url for a
message that is less than 200 chars long.


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dik
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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 23 Jul 2018 20:54:22
Message: <5b5678be$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/23/2018 8:43 PM, dick balaska wrote:
> On 07/23/2018 07:24 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Now I just need to figure out how to get TB to turn URLs that are longer
>> than one line into proper links.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> 
> Share your secret...
> 
> One of my fantasies is to get the newsgroups to emit an url for a
> message that is less than 200 chars long.
> 
> 

Yeah, that is an annoyance. I have to manually copy and paste those 
types of URLs.


Mike


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 23 Jul 2018 22:17:34
Message: <5b568c3e$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/23/2018 08:54 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 7/23/2018 8:43 PM, dick balaska wrote:
>> On 07/23/2018 07:24 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Now I just need to figure out how to get TB to turn URLs that are longer
>>> than one line into proper links.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> Share your secret...
>>
>> One of my fantasies is to get the newsgroups to emit an url for a
>> message that is less than 200 chars long.
>>
>>
> 
> Yeah, that is an annoyance. I have to manually copy and paste those
> types of URLs.
> 
> 
> Mike

Another weird thing about TB is most times, my new posts don't wrap. I
wondered if other people saw them like that. I assumed no. But when I
reply like this, it is wrapping while I type.

And *another* weird thing, often the povray newsgroup links work even if
the last 3-4 characters wrap.  I always do the tinyurl thing to help my
fellow povers avoid the wrapping nonsense. (which is annoying because it
anonymizes the url. I'm really sending you to pornhub.)

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dik
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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 24 Jul 2018 04:38:03
Message: <5b56e56b@news.povray.org>
Am 24.07.2018 um 04:17 schrieb dick balaska:

>>> One of my fantasies is to get the newsgroups to emit an url for a
>>> message that is less than 200 chars long.
...
> And *another* weird thing, often the povray newsgroup links work even if
> the last 3-4 characters wrap.  I always do the tinyurl thing to help my
> fellow povers avoid the wrapping nonsense. (which is annoying because it
> anonymizes the url. I'm really sending you to pornhub.)

The anatomy of a link to a message in the web interface is as follows:

    http://news.povray.org/<GROUP>/message/<ID>/#<ID>

where <GROUP> is the name of the newsgroup, and <ID> is the message ID
(always starting with `%3C` and ending with `%3E`, which represent the
characters `<` and `>`, respectively).

Note that the last portion of the URL is a /fragment/ (recognizable by
the leading `#`), i.e. a specific location within the referenced page,
instructing the browser to scroll down on that page accordingly.

If only the fragment portion is garbled, the web page will still load
fine; the browser will just not scroll down to the fragment because it
can't find it. (As a matter of fact, in practice that's even the
behaviour when the fragment `#<ID>` is present and intact: The
single-message pages do not have any fragments at all.)

This also means that you can strip the fragment portion from the URL
entirely to make it shorter.


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Old threads
Date: 24 Jul 2018 04:46:31
Message: <5b56e767$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/24/2018 4:38 AM, clipka wrote:
> The anatomy of a link to a message in the web interface is as follows:
> 
>      http://news.povray.org/<GROUP>/message/<ID>/#<ID>
> 
> where <GROUP> is the name of the newsgroup, and <ID> is the message ID
> (always starting with `%3C` and ending with `%3E`, which represent the
> characters `<` and `>`, respectively).

The '<' and '>' are superfluous IMO, but it's probably not worth the 
trouble of removing them.

Who is the webmaster, by the way?


Mike


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