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Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK will
accept or not.
In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
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Nicola Sturgeon of course. I hate Typographical misspellings! :-(
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On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK will
> accept or not.
>
I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
>
I invoke Godwin's law.
What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
Netherlands?
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On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK will
>> accept or not.
>>
>
> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>
>
>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
>>
>
> I invoke Godwin's law.
Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>
> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
> Netherlands?
>
It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European Union.
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On 3/14/2017 7:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK will
>>> accept or not.
>>>
>>
>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>
> From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>
She is just mixing it, putting pressure on the Westminster government.
Well, not just. Tactically it is probably the best time to further her
cause for independence. If she left it any later the situation would be
too uncertain to predict.
>>
>>
>>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
>>>
>>
>> I invoke Godwin's law.
>
> Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>
Ah! well, only a couple of days to go.
>>
>> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
>> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
>> Netherlands?
>>
>
> It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
> separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
> however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European
> Union.
>
It just drifted out of my thoughts. I was wondering.
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On 14-3-2017 9:33, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 7:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>> will
>>>> accept or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>
>> From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>>
>
> She is just mixing it, putting pressure on the Westminster government.
> Well, not just. Tactically it is probably the best time to further her
> cause for independence. If she left it any later the situation would be
> too uncertain to predict.
I agree. Her timing seems to have been very good and she seems to be a
good tactician too.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course. :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I invoke Godwin's law.
>>
>> Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>>
>
> Ah! well, only a couple of days to go.
As for that, the whole mess seems not to have influenced the upcoming
elections tomorrow to any degree. Of which I am glad.
Otherwise, the little fight we seem to be involved in with Mr E from T
has a high degree of Chimpanzee Politics (see:
https://books.google.nl/books?id=XsrhU2vV5PIC&redir_esc=y) ;-)
>
>>>
>>> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
>>> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
>>> Netherlands?
>>>
>>
>> It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
>> separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
>> however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European
>> Union.
>>
>
> It just drifted out of my thoughts. I was wondering.
>
Utopia... :-)
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On 3/14/2017 12:18 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 14-3-2017 9:33, Stephen wrote:
>> On 3/14/2017 7:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>>> will
>>>>> accept or not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>>
>>> From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>>>
>>
>> She is just mixing it, putting pressure on the Westminster government.
>> Well, not just. Tactically it is probably the best time to further her
>> cause for independence. If she left it any later the situation would be
>> too uncertain to predict.
>
> I agree. Her timing seems to have been very good and she seems to be a
> good tactician too.
>
Yes if you are going to chib someone. Do it when they don't expect it. :-D
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course.
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I invoke Godwin's law.
>>>
>>> Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>>>
>>
>> Ah! well, only a couple of days to go.
>
> As for that, the whole mess seems not to have influenced the upcoming
> elections tomorrow to any degree. Of which I am glad.
>
> Otherwise, the little fight we seem to be involved in with Mr E from T
> has a high degree of Chimpanzee Politics (see:
> https://books.google.nl/books?id=XsrhU2vV5PIC&redir_esc=y) ;-)
>
There was a Dutch analyst on Radio 4, this morning. Who said the spat
suits both Mark Rutte and Mr E. It has increased both of their standings
in the polls.
Which is maybe the reverse of Chimpanzee Politics or playing to your
audience.
>>
>>>>
>>>> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
>>>> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
>>>> Netherlands?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
>>> separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
>>> however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European
>>> Union.
>>>
>>
>> It just drifted out of my thoughts. I was wondering.
>>
>
> Utopia... :-)
>
A fool's paradise, maybe. :-)
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On 14-3-2017 13:57, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 12:18 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 14-3-2017 9:33, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2017 7:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> On 13-3-2017 14:21, Stephen wrote:
>>>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> accept or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>>>
>>>> From Sturgeon's speech, it has not been very promising until now.
>>>>
>>>
>>> She is just mixing it, putting pressure on the Westminster government.
>>> Well, not just. Tactically it is probably the best time to further her
>>> cause for independence. If she left it any later the situation would be
>>> too uncertain to predict.
>>
>> I agree. Her timing seems to have been very good and she seems to be a
>> good tactician too.
>>
>
> Yes if you are going to chib someone. Do it when they don't expect it. :-D
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the end, Scotland can always join our Banana Republic of course.
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I invoke Godwin's law.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed! Indeed! And the exchange had not even really started.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah! well, only a couple of days to go.
>>
>> As for that, the whole mess seems not to have influenced the upcoming
>> elections tomorrow to any degree. Of which I am glad.
>>
>> Otherwise, the little fight we seem to be involved in with Mr E from T
>> has a high degree of Chimpanzee Politics (see:
>> https://books.google.nl/books?id=XsrhU2vV5PIC&redir_esc=y) ;-)
>>
>
> There was a Dutch analyst on Radio 4, this morning. Who said the spat
> suits both Mark Rutte and Mr E. It has increased both of their standings
> in the polls.
>
> Which is maybe the reverse of Chimpanzee Politics or playing to your
> audience.
Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little bet
about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he wins
of course).
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What happened to the movement from a few years ago, for Flanders (I'll
>>>>> use the English term, not wanting to start any flame wars) to join the
>>>>> Netherlands?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It drifted away without a trace with the realisation that too much
>>>> separates us culturally speaking. It would never work. What does work
>>>> however is the cooperation successively known as Benelux and European
>>>> Union.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It just drifted out of my thoughts. I was wondering.
>>>
>>
>> Utopia... :-)
>>
>
> A fool's paradise, maybe. :-)
>
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On 3/14/2017 1:06 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
> Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little bet
> about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he wins
> of course).
I agree and if I were a betting man I guess he will take Turkey into the
Russian sphere of influence.
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On 14-3-2017 14:35, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 1:06 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>> Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
>> Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little bet
>> about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he wins
>> of course).
>
> I agree and if I were a betting man I guess he will take Turkey into the
> Russian sphere of influence.
>
Which would be an uncomfortable position as a NATO member... but I would
not be surprised at all.
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On 3/15/2017 7:46 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 14-3-2017 14:35, Stephen wrote:
>> On 3/14/2017 1:06 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>> Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
>>> Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little bet
>>> about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he wins
>>> of course).
>>
>> I agree and if I were a betting man I guess he will take Turkey into the
>> Russian sphere of influence.
>>
>
> Which would be an uncomfortable position as a NATO member... but I would
> not be surprised at all.
>
>
They could always join the Partnership for Peace instead.
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On 15-3-2017 9:03, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/15/2017 7:46 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 14-3-2017 14:35, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2017 1:06 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
>>>> Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little bet
>>>> about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he wins
>>>> of course).
>>>
>>> I agree and if I were a betting man I guess he will take Turkey into the
>>> Russian sphere of influence.
>>>
>>
>> Which would be an uncomfortable position as a NATO member... but I would
>> not be surprised at all.
>>
>>
>
> They could always join the Partnership for Peace instead.
>
That would be a very wise decision indeed.
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On 3/15/2017 12:26 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 15-3-2017 9:03, Stephen wrote:
>> On 3/15/2017 7:46 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 14-3-2017 14:35, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 3/14/2017 1:06 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's say that mr E's behaviour is closer to chimpanzee's than Mark
>>>>> Rutte's ;-) Otherwise, yes. Both gain by it. I could make a little
>>>>> bet
>>>>> about Mr E's international behaviour /after his/ referendum (if he
>>>>> wins
>>>>> of course).
>>>>
>>>> I agree and if I were a betting man I guess he will take Turkey into
>>>> the
>>>> Russian sphere of influence.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which would be an uncomfortable position as a NATO member... but I would
>>> not be surprised at all.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They could always join the Partnership for Peace instead.
>>
>
> That would be a very wise decision indeed.
>
Time will tell.
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:21:27 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>> will accept or not.
>>
>>
> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
"Poorly" I think is probably what is/was likely. ;)
Jim
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 3/16/2017 5:16 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:21:27 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>> will accept or not.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>
> "Poorly" I think is probably what is/was likely. ;)
>
> Jim
>
It didn't matter what she did she would be in the wrong anyway. But the
way it has been handled could have been better.
I hope she never sits with her back to the door.
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 19:46:49 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/16/2017 5:16 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:21:27 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>> will accept or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>
>> "Poorly" I think is probably what is/was likely. ;)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
> It didn't matter what she did she would be in the wrong anyway. But the
> way it has been handled could have been better.
> I hope she never sits with her back to the door.
That's all certainly true.
Sturgeon has handled this very well - announcing from Holyrood was a
smart move. Says she's speaking not for the SNP, but for all of Scotland
(as is appropriate).
I keep thinking that it would be fun if ASA got involved, charges of
"false advertising" about the last referendum against the 'remain' camp.
Jim
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 3/16/2017 7:51 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 19:46:49 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 3/16/2017 5:16 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:21:27 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>>> will accept or not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>>
>>> "Poorly" I think is probably what is/was likely. ;)
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>> It didn't matter what she did she would be in the wrong anyway. But the
>> way it has been handled could have been better.
>> I hope she never sits with her back to the door.
>
> That's all certainly true.
>
> Sturgeon has handled this very well - announcing from Holyrood was a
> smart move. Says she's speaking not for the SNP, but for all of Scotland
> (as is appropriate).
>
Not a lot else she could do if she wanted to keep Scotland in the EU.
Waiting to see the result of of the negotiations would mean that the
whole of the UK would be out. Then if they got their independence they
would have to apply like any new state wanting in. But I agree she is
astute.
> I keep thinking that it would be fun if ASA got involved, charges of
> "false advertising" about the last referendum against the 'remain' camp.
>
Too horrible to think about. All parties were proponents of the big lie.
Talk about a can of worms*
We have an ongoing scandal at the moment. During our election campaigns
the is a limit that parties can spend and their expenses have to be
submitted to the Electoral Commission. During the last by-election a
Tory candidate had omitted expenses paid by the central party and is
being investigated by the police. Today it was announced that the Tory
party were fined £70,000 (a record) for doing the same thing during the
last two elections and 13 police forces have submitted reports to the
Dept. of Public Prosecutions. Small beer by American standard, I know.
* What is worse than opening a can of worms?
I'll tell you. Opening a bag of maggots.
When I worked offshore a friend had a fishing shop. Just before he went
offshore, one trip. He had bought a couple of boxes of fluorescent
maggots to use and sell as bait. On the journey home he had a small bump
in his car and one of the boxes split. So he swept them up and forgot
about about it. Until his wife phoned him to say that hundreds had
hatched in the car and turned into blue bottle flies. She was not pleased.
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:31:34 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/16/2017 7:51 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 19:46:49 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/16/2017 5:16 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:21:27 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/13/2017 12:38 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting speech by Nicola Surgeon. I am curious to see what
>>>>>> manoeuvring room she will have in the coming months and what the UK
>>>>>> will accept or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm interested in hearing how Mrs May responds.
>>>>
>>>> "Poorly" I think is probably what is/was likely. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It didn't matter what she did she would be in the wrong anyway. But
>>> the way it has been handled could have been better.
>>> I hope she never sits with her back to the door.
>>
>> That's all certainly true.
>>
>> Sturgeon has handled this very well - announcing from Holyrood was a
>> smart move. Says she's speaking not for the SNP, but for all of
>> Scotland (as is appropriate).
>>
> Not a lot else she could do if she wanted to keep Scotland in the EU.
> Waiting to see the result of of the negotiations would mean that the
> whole of the UK would be out. Then if they got their independence they
> would have to apply like any new state wanting in. But I agree she is
> astute.
Yep. She really had to, but I think she did a great job of getting
things lined up so she could say "we tried everything, and this is quite
literally the only option we have left".
>> I keep thinking that it would be fun if ASA got involved, charges of
>> "false advertising" about the last referendum against the 'remain'
>> camp.
>>
>>
> Too horrible to think about. All parties were proponents of the big lie.
> Talk about a can of worms*
Indeed.
> We have an ongoing scandal at the moment. During our election campaigns
> the is a limit that parties can spend and their expenses have to be
> submitted to the Electoral Commission. During the last by-election a
> Tory candidate had omitted expenses paid by the central party and is
> being investigated by the police. Today it was announced that the Tory
> party were fined £70,000 (a record) for doing the same thing during the
> last two elections and 13 police forces have submitted reports to the
> Dept. of Public Prosecutions. Small beer by American standard, I know.
Just goes to show - never get into a pissing match with the US when it
comes to politics. We'll always come back and say "here, hold my beer"
and do something more stupid.
The UK had Brexit, but we had a Trump card.
> * What is worse than opening a can of worms?
> I'll tell you. Opening a bag of maggots.
> When I worked offshore a friend had a fishing shop. Just before he went
> offshore, one trip. He had bought a couple of boxes of fluorescent
> maggots to use and sell as bait. On the journey home he had a small bump
> in his car and one of the boxes split. So he swept them up and forgot
> about about it. Until his wife phoned him to say that hundreds had
> hatched in the car and turned into blue bottle flies. She was not
> pleased.
Eww.
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 3/16/2017 9:58 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:31:34 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Not a lot else she could do if she wanted to keep Scotland in the EU.
>> Waiting to see the result of of the negotiations would mean that the
>> whole of the UK would be out. Then if they got their independence they
>> would have to apply like any new state wanting in. But I agree she is
>> astute.
>
> Yep. She really had to, but I think she did a great job of getting
> things lined up so she could say "we tried everything, and this is quite
> literally the only option we have left".
>
She did that. She is no one's fool.
>>> I keep thinking that it would be fun if ASA got involved, charges of
>>> "false advertising" about the last referendum against the 'remain'
>>> camp.
>>>
>>>
>> Too horrible to think about. All parties were proponents of the big lie.
>> Talk about a can of worms*
>
> Indeed.
>
I cannot believe how stupid people can be.
>> We have an ongoing scandal at the moment. During our election campaigns
>> the is a limit that parties can spend and their expenses have to be
>> submitted to the Electoral Commission. During the last by-election a
>> Tory candidate had omitted expenses paid by the central party and is
>> being investigated by the police. Today it was announced that the Tory
>> party were fined £70,000 (a record) for doing the same thing during the
>> last two elections and 13 police forces have submitted reports to the
>> Dept. of Public Prosecutions. Small beer by American standard, I know.
>
> Just goes to show - never get into a pissing match with the US when it
> comes to politics. We'll always come back and say "here, hold my beer"
> and do something more stupid.
>
Don't you mean: "Here hold my... Oh! my F'n nose" :P
BTW You don't give a Glaswegian your weapon. ;)
> The UK had Brexit, but we had a Trump card.
>
And you're welcome to it.
>> * What is worse than opening a can of worms?
>> I'll tell you. Opening a bag of maggots.
>> When I worked offshore a friend had a fishing shop. Just before he went
>> offshore, one trip. He had bought a couple of boxes of fluorescent
>> maggots to use and sell as bait. On the journey home he had a small bump
>> in his car and one of the boxes split. So he swept them up and forgot
>> about about it. Until his wife phoned him to say that hundreds had
>> hatched in the car and turned into blue bottle flies. She was not
>> pleased.
>
> Eww.
>
Euch!
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:42:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>> Yep. She really had to, but I think she did a great job of getting
>> things lined up so she could say "we tried everything, and this is
>> quite literally the only option we have left".
>>
> She did that. She is no one's fool.
I wish we had a leader like her. :)
>>> Too horrible to think about. All parties were proponents of the big
>>> lie.
>>> Talk about a can of worms*
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
> I cannot believe how stupid people can be.
Never underestimate the power of people to ignore what's right in front
of their faces. What's more, we all are "stupid" about something -
sometime it's ignorance, or just missing something critical (I had a
student in a class years ago who, for one of the labs, misread the
instructions and used the examples in the book verbatim, rather than
using the example as a guide to create a configuration file. He got
halfway through the lab before he started having problems, and had to go
back and redo it. Challenging thing for an instructor to deal with -
catching him up without making him feel bad about such a mistake in front
of the class (he was sitting in the front row, as I recall).
>> Just goes to show - never get into a pissing match with the US when it
>> comes to politics. We'll always come back and say "here, hold my beer"
>> and do something more stupid.
>>
> Don't you mean: "Here hold my... Oh! my F'n nose" :P BTW You don't give
> a Glaswegian your weapon. ;)
Actually, for us, it usually involves fireworks or guns. 'Murica.
>> The UK had Brexit, but we had a Trump card.
>>
> And you're welcome to it.
Now what did I ever do to you? :P
Jim
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On 3/17/2017 3:14 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:42:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>>> Yep. She really had to, but I think she did a great job of getting
>>> things lined up so she could say "we tried everything, and this is
>>> quite literally the only option we have left".
>>>
>> She did that. She is no one's fool.
>
> I wish we had a leader like her. :)
>
>>>> Too horrible to think about. All parties were proponents of the big
>>>> lie.
>>>> Talk about a can of worms*
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>> I cannot believe how stupid people can be.
>
> Never underestimate the power of people to ignore what's right in front
> of their faces.
I know. Most people only see what they want to see.
> What's more, we all are "stupid" about something -
> sometime it's ignorance, or just missing something critical (I had a
> student in a class years ago who, for one of the labs, misread the
> instructions and used the examples in the book verbatim, rather than
> using the example as a guide to create a configuration file. He got
> halfway through the lab before he started having problems, and had to go
> back and redo it. Challenging thing for an instructor to deal with -
> catching him up without making him feel bad about such a mistake in front
> of the class (he was sitting in the front row, as I recall).
>
Easily done and kudos to you. But the important thing is did he repeat
his mistake?
That is teaching?
>>> Just goes to show - never get into a pissing match with the US when it
>>> comes to politics. We'll always come back and say "here, hold my beer"
>>> and do something more stupid.
>>>
>> Don't you mean: "Here hold my... Oh! my F'n nose" :P BTW You don't give
>> a Glaswegian your weapon. ;)
>
> Actually, for us, it usually involves fireworks or guns. 'Murica.
>
Guns are for crims or fearties. A weapon is whatever you can get your
hands on. Be it a pencil or a shoelace.
>>> The UK had Brexit, but we had a Trump card.
>>>
>> And you're welcome to it.
>
> Now what did I ever do to you? :P
>
You live in places that are hard to visit. :)
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On 3/17/2017 3:14 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:42:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>>> >>Yep. She really had to, but I think she did a great job of getting
>>> >>things lined up so she could say "we tried everything, and this is
>>> >>quite literally the only option we have left".
>>> >>
>> >She did that. She is no one's fool.
> I wish we had a leader like her.:)
>
I would say that she is more a Texan leader.
[Singing] "The Yellow Rose of Texas"
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:33:13 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>> Never underestimate the power of people to ignore what's right in front
>> of their faces.
>
> I know. Most people only see what they want to see.
Yup. :)
>> What's more, we all are "stupid" about something -
>> sometime it's ignorance, or just missing something critical (I had a
>> student in a class years ago who, for one of the labs, misread the
>> instructions and used the examples in the book verbatim, rather than
>> using the example as a guide to create a configuration file. He got
>> halfway through the lab before he started having problems, and had to
>> go back and redo it. Challenging thing for an instructor to deal with
>> - catching him up without making him feel bad about such a mistake in
>> front of the class (he was sitting in the front row, as I recall).
>>
>>
> Easily done and kudos to you. But the important thing is did he repeat
> his mistake?
> That is teaching?
He didn't repeat his mistake, but I think he felt badly about how much
he'd missed the mark by. Fortunately, I kept a set of files that had
"the answer" in them so he was able to catch up easily, and he did see
what he'd done wrong, so he learned that way.
Making mistakes is a great way to learn, and I underscored with my class
as well as the people I've managed the past year (just changed teams, so
I'm going through this with the new team I'm managing) that when it comes
to mistakes, I've made a few. (Not actually quoting a Queen song, but I
may as well be.)
>> Actually, for us, it usually involves fireworks or guns. 'Murica.
>>
> Guns are for crims or fearties. A weapon is whatever you can get your
> hands on. Be it a pencil or a shoelace.
Oh, yeah, but when it comes to doing stupid shit, 'Murica is great at
using those two things as ways of demonstrating that stupidity.
>>>> The UK had Brexit, but we had a Trump card.
>>>>
>>> And you're welcome to it.
>>
>> Now what did I ever do to you? :P
>>
> You live in places that are hard to visit. :)
Pffft. You need to come out to our island sometime and check it out.
Preferably *after* they've finished the reconstruction work in our
bathroom. :/
A couple weeks ago (and keep in mind, that construction on our apartment
building wrapped up last April - so it's less than a year old), the on-
site property management folks stopped by to let us know they thought
there might be a problem with one of our bathrooms - there was water
leaking into the garage, and it *seemed* to be coming from our unit,
right above where the water was coming through.
Week before last, towards the end of the week, we had no fewer than 7
contractors in our master bath at the same time, trying to figure out
where the water was coming from. All pointing fingers at each other
(plumbers, folks who installed the shower pan, folks who installed the
other fixtures) - and they concluded that it had to be coming from the
shower - which made sense, because the wood had swelled up to the point
that the tiles and grout were cracking.
So, demolition early last week. Glass shower cubicle removed, tile
pulled up, underlayment - and yep, the damn pan was installed
incorrectly, and it had flooded. Wood absolutely *soaked* and rotting.
Oh, and mold - tons of mold. Foam insulation completely soaked.
Mold abatement team came in on Friday to start prepping, and found that
the sopping wet insulation had leaked over into the next section of floor
- so the toilet comes out, along with the rest of the floor and subfloor.
A couple days ago, the main investor in the property - who is properly
pissed off about this (but they're all relieved it's *us* and not some of
the, shall we say, fussier residents) says that obviously we can't stay
in the apartment, and that they'll pay for us to stay in a hotel. The on-
site property management (a couple of great gals to work with) tell us
"find someplace nice to stay; the construction company is buying, because
they screwed up. And let us know where, and we'll give you
recommendations on great places to eat in the area if we can. Oh, and
next month's rent? You're getting a discount, along with discounts on
water and electric because they're having to use lots of both to do this
work." I've got a buddy who plays blues, and they were doing a jam
tonight at a local brewery, so I asked him where a decent place to stay
was up near where they were playing. I said "not the Ritz, but not Motel
6", and got a great recommendation. The recommendations for local
restaurants were fantastic - locally farmed, locally grown food that was
some of the best we've had in a long time.
All on someone else's nickel. :) Except for the beer and dinner tonight,
unless they insist - because we'd planned on going up there tonight
anyways.
While we're out, we get a call from the abatement guys. More bad news -
the insulation is wet back under the cabinets, so they're going to have
to stop and get hold of the subcontractor who did the cabinet work and
have the cabinets removed sometime next week, and then the abatement guys
have to come back and finish the job.
And, of course, I work from home - and as mentioned earlier, I moved to
manage a different department (our customer/partner training team - 3
people right now, but we're going to grow it - I'm really excited about
the new role) - one of my first tasks was to create training for, shall
we say, a very large local software company whom we're partnering with on
some stuff - to be delivered this coming Monday. So demolition work is
going on while I'm on the call with them earlier this week.
Next Saturday, we have two concerts in Seattle on Saturday; PDQ Bach
(Peter Schickele) in the afternoon, and then the Seattle Symphony
performing Beethoven's 5th Symphony that evening. (That is actually a
very funny coincidence; Schickele did a recording back in 1990 called "On
the air", during which they have a performance of the first movement of
the 5th - complete with a sports-announcer-style commentary. I really
wonder if they planned it, or if it was just happenstance.)
And on the 28th, it's our 20th wedding anniversary. So, with the rent
discount (they haven't said how much, but knowing them, it'll be
significant), we're going to have a pretty nice 20th anniversary
celebration. :)
Which just goes to show that mold in the bathroom can be a "good"
thing. ;)
Jim
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:37:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/17/2017 3:14 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:42:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>> >>Yep. She really had to, but I think she did a great job of getting
>>>> >>things lined up so she could say "we tried everything, and this is
>>>> >>quite literally the only option we have left".
>>>> >>
>>> >She did that. She is no one's fool.
>> I wish we had a leader like her.:)
>>
>>
> I would say that she is more a Texan leader.
>
> [Singing] "The Yellow Rose of Texas"
You haven't looked at Texas education standards, it seems; look at the
leaders we've had out of Texas; GWB, Rick Perry (our current Secretary of
Energy - a department that, as a candidate for POTUS, he said he was
going to eliminate. m-/) I wouldn't say she's a Texan leader, she's
better than that. ;)
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 3/19/2017 5:48 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:33:13 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>
> He didn't repeat his mistake, but I think he felt badly about how much
> he'd missed the mark by. Fortunately, I kept a set of files that had
> "the answer" in them so he was able to catch up easily, and he did see
> what he'd done wrong, so he learned that way.
>
> Making mistakes is a great way to learn, and I underscored with my class
> as well as the people I've managed the past year (just changed teams, so
> I'm going through this with the new team I'm managing) that when it comes
> to mistakes, I've made a few. (Not actually quoting a Queen song, but I
> may as well be.)
>
Was that not Frank Sinatra?
>>> Actually, for us, it usually involves fireworks or guns. 'Murica.
>>>
>> Guns are for crims or fearties. A weapon is whatever you can get your
>> hands on. Be it a pencil or a shoelace.
>
> Oh, yeah, but when it comes to doing stupid shit, 'Murica is great at
> using those two things as ways of demonstrating that stupidity.
>
I think there has been enough said on the subject.
Personally I can see no solution. Especially when there is a lot of
money to be made.
>>>>> The UK had Brexit, but we had a Trump card.
>>>>>
>>>> And you're welcome to it.
>>>
>>> Now what did I ever do to you? :P
>>>
>> You live in places that are hard to visit. :)
>
> Pffft. You need to come out to our island sometime and check it out.
> Preferably *after* they've finished the reconstruction work in our
> bathroom. :/
>
I must admit that Hobbs NM is a bit off the beaten path. IIRC I would
have had to leave straight from work on the Friday, arrive about 7pm
Saturday and start the return journey early Sunday morning. To get back
in time for work on Monday morning.
> A couple weeks ago (and keep in mind, that construction on our apartment
[Snip]
Ah! Lucky Jim.
A bit of a nightmare.
> A couple days ago, the main investor in the property - who is properly
[Snip]
>
> All on someone else's nickel. :) Except for the beer and dinner tonight,
> unless they insist - because we'd planned on going up there tonight
> anyways.
>
That is decent treatment. Still inconvenient for you.
> While we're out, we get a call from the abatement guys. More bad news -
> the insulation is wet back under the cabinets, so they're going to have
> to stop and get hold of the subcontractor who did the cabinet work and
> have the cabinets removed sometime next week, and then the abatement guys
> have to come back and finish the job.
>
"What new Hell is this?" ;)
> And, of course, I work from home - and as mentioned earlier, I moved to
> manage a different department (our customer/partner training team - 3
> people right now, but we're going to grow it - I'm really excited about
> the new role) - one of my first tasks was to create training for, shall
> we say, a very large local software company whom we're partnering with on
> some stuff - to be delivered this coming Monday. So demolition work is
> going on while I'm on the call with them earlier this week.
>
Nice one. :)
Learning to cope with things going wrong is character forming. :)
> Next Saturday, we have two concerts in Seattle on Saturday; PDQ Bach
> (Peter Schickele)
I did not know he was still alive.
Speaking of which. I hear Chuck Berry has just died. :(
> in the afternoon, and then the Seattle Symphony
> performing Beethoven's 5th Symphony that evening. (That is actually a
> very funny coincidence; Schickele did a recording back in 1990 called "On
> the air", during which they have a performance of the first movement of
> the 5th - complete with a sports-announcer-style commentary. I really
> wonder if they planned it, or if it was just happenstance.)
>
I got my introduction to Classical music from someone who gave me a
running commentary of Beethoven's Emperor concerto. Not as a sports
announcer, though. :)
> And on the 28th, it's our 20th wedding anniversary. So, with the rent
> discount (they haven't said how much, but knowing them, it'll be
> significant), we're going to have a pretty nice 20th anniversary
> celebration. :)
>
Congratulations!
> Which just goes to show that mold in the bathroom can be a "good"
> thing. ;)
>
Fleming thought that too. ;)
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On 3/19/2017 5:49 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:37:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 3/17/2017 3:14 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:42:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. She really had to, but I think she did a great job of getting
>>>>>>> things lined up so she could say "we tried everything, and this is
>>>>>>> quite literally the only option we have left".
>>>>>>>
>>>>> She did that. She is no one's fool.
>>> I wish we had a leader like her.:)
>>>
>>>
>> I would say that she is more a Texan leader.
>>
>> [Singing] "The Yellow Rose of Texas"
>
> You haven't looked at Texas education standards, it seems; look at the
> leaders we've had out of Texas; GWB, Rick Perry (our current Secretary of
> Energy - a department that, as a candidate for POTUS, he said he was
> going to eliminate. m-/) I wouldn't say she's a Texan leader, she's
> better than that. ;)
>
>
>
You have education in the southern states?
But I was talking about the independence thing. :)
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:55:59 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/19/2017 5:48 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:33:13 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
>
>> He didn't repeat his mistake, but I think he felt badly about how much
>> he'd missed the mark by. Fortunately, I kept a set of files that had
>> "the answer" in them so he was able to catch up easily, and he did see
>> what he'd done wrong, so he learned that way.
>>
>> Making mistakes is a great way to learn, and I underscored with my
>> class as well as the people I've managed the past year (just changed
>> teams, so I'm going through this with the new team I'm managing) that
>> when it comes to mistakes, I've made a few. (Not actually quoting a
>> Queen song, but I may as well be.)
>>
>>
> Was that not Frank Sinatra?
Maybe, but Queen's "We are the Champions" is what was going through my
mind when I wrote that.
>>>> Actually, for us, it usually involves fireworks or guns. 'Murica.
>>>>
>>> Guns are for crims or fearties. A weapon is whatever you can get your
>>> hands on. Be it a pencil or a shoelace.
>>
>> Oh, yeah, but when it comes to doing stupid shit, 'Murica is great at
>> using those two things as ways of demonstrating that stupidity.
>>
>>
> I think there has been enough said on the subject.
> Personally I can see no solution. Especially when there is a lot of
> money to be made.
Yep, that certainly is a big part of the problem.
>>>>>> The UK had Brexit, but we had a Trump card.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And you're welcome to it.
>>>>
>>>> Now what did I ever do to you? :P
>>>>
>>> You live in places that are hard to visit. :)
>>
>> Pffft. You need to come out to our island sometime and check it out.
>> Preferably *after* they've finished the reconstruction work in our
>> bathroom. :/
>>
> I must admit that Hobbs NM is a bit off the beaten path. IIRC I would
> have had to leave straight from work on the Friday, arrive about 7pm
> Saturday and start the return journey early Sunday morning. To get back
> in time for work on Monday morning.
Well, true - and now I'm a little further away from where I was at the
time. :)
>> A couple weeks ago (and keep in mind, that construction on our
>> apartment
>
> [Snip]
>
> Ah! Lucky Jim.
>
> A bit of a nightmare.
Just a touch.
>> All on someone else's nickel. :) Except for the beer and dinner
>> tonight,
>> unless they insist - because we'd planned on going up there tonight
>> anyways.
>>
>>
> That is decent treatment. Still inconvenient for you.
Yeah. But they're handling it well - if we were still in Bellevue, as
much as the on-site staff liked us, I'm sure the company running the
property would've taken a very different approach.
> "What new Hell is this?" ;)
s/new/fresh/ - but yeah. :)
>> And, of course, I work from home - and as mentioned earlier, I moved to
>> manage a different department (our customer/partner training team - 3
>> people right now, but we're going to grow it - I'm really excited about
>> the new role) - one of my first tasks was to create training for, shall
>> we say, a very large local software company whom we're partnering with
>> on some stuff - to be delivered this coming Monday. So demolition work
>> is going on while I'm on the call with them earlier this week.
>>
>>
> Nice one. :)
> Learning to cope with things going wrong is character forming. :)
Well, I've got character in spades. I like my quiet. If next week looks
like it's going to be another noisy week, I'm going to probably check out
the offsite office desk rental company (they're just a couple buildings
down). Just I spend a fair amount of time in video calls, and I'm not
sure how well that works in their environment.
I should talk to my neighbor - he uses them, and I know he manages a
company from there, with remote employees all over the US. So it must
work OK.
>> Next Saturday, we have two concerts in Seattle on Saturday; PDQ Bach
>> (Peter Schickele)
>
> I did not know he was still alive.
Yep, he's still hanging in there.
> Speaking of which. I hear Chuck Berry has just died. :(
I heard that as well. :(
> I got my introduction to Classical music from someone who gave me a
> running commentary of Beethoven's Emperor concerto. Not as a sports
> announcer, though. :)
That could've been fun. :)
>> And on the 28th, it's our 20th wedding anniversary. So, with the rent
>> discount (they haven't said how much, but knowing them, it'll be
>> significant), we're going to have a pretty nice 20th anniversary
>> celebration. :)
>>
>>
> Congratulations!
Thanks!
>> Which just goes to show that mold in the bathroom can be a "good"
>> thing. ;)
>>
>>
> Fleming thought that too. ;)
LOL
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:58:33 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/19/2017 5:49 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:37:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/17/2017 3:14 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:42:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep. She really had to, but I think she did a great job of
>>>>>>>> getting things lined up so she could say "we tried everything,
>>>>>>>> and this is quite literally the only option we have left".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> She did that. She is no one's fool.
>>>> I wish we had a leader like her.:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would say that she is more a Texan leader.
>>>
>>> [Singing] "The Yellow Rose of Texas"
>>
>> You haven't looked at Texas education standards, it seems; look at the
>> leaders we've had out of Texas; GWB, Rick Perry (our current Secretary
>> of Energy - a department that, as a candidate for POTUS, he said he was
>> going to eliminate. m-/) I wouldn't say she's a Texan leader, she's
>> better than that. ;)
>>
>>
>>
> You have education in the southern states?
Sadly, yes, but it's not that good - and Texas is big enough that the
publishers for textbooks tend to go with Texas' standards nationwide
rather than produce different books for different states.
> But I was talking about the independence thing. :)
Yeah, I figured. :)
Jim
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On 3/19/2017 9:57 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> >You have education in the southern states?
> Sadly, yes, but it's not that good - and Texas is big enough that the
> publishers for textbooks tend to go with Texas' standards nationwide
> rather than produce different books for different states.
>
I heard that when the "evolution Vs creation" debate was ongoing.
>> >But I was talking about the independence thing.:)
> Yeah, I figured.:)
She would make a good redneck with her complexion. ;)
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On 3/19/2017 9:56 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> >>
>> >Nice one.:)
>> >Learning to cope with things going wrong is character forming.:)
> Well, I've got character in spades. I like my quiet. If next week looks
> like it's going to be another noisy week, I'm going to probably check out
> the offsite office desk rental company (they're just a couple buildings
> down). Just I spend a fair amount of time in video calls, and I'm not
> sure how well that works in their environment.
>
> I should talk to my neighbor - he uses them, and I know he manages a
> company from there, with remote employees all over the US. So it must
> work OK.
>
It sounds like a good idea.
Did you see the news article, where a BBC correspondent in South Korea,
was talking on air and his young children burst into the room?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral
>>> >>Next Saturday, we have two concerts in Seattle on Saturday; PDQ Bach
>>> >>(Peter Schickele)
>> >
>> >I did not know he was still alive.
> Yep, he's still hanging in there.
>
>> >Speaking of which. I hear Chuck Berry has just died.:(
> I heard that as well.:(
>
>> >I got my introduction to Classical music from someone who gave me a
>> >running commentary of Beethoven's Emperor concerto. Not as a sports
>> >announcer, though.:)
> That could've been fun.:)
>
I could go into it in more depth but I take the 5th. ;)
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On 20-3-2017 10:18, Stephen wrote:
> Did you see the news article, where a BBC correspondent in South Korea,
> was talking on air and his young children burst into the room?
>
>
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral
>
That was hilarious. I must say though that the father did not react
well; he should have been much less strung up, more relaxed, after all
it is not the end of the world. What does it say about him? ;-)
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On 3/20/2017 12:09 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 20-3-2017 10:18, Stephen wrote:
>> Did you see the news article, where a BBC correspondent in South Korea,
>> was talking on air and his young children burst into the room?
>>
>>
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral
>>
>>
>
> That was hilarious. I must say though that the father did not react
> well; he should have been much less strung up, more relaxed, after all
> it is not the end of the world. What does it say about him? ;-)
>
There was a bit more to it than just that video.
I'm told that lots of people thought his wife was a maid or child minder
because she is Korean and that set off another rash of threads. Even
though you can hear the girl saying "mommy".
Here is his/their follow up interview.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-39232538
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Stephen
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:07:32 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/19/2017 9:57 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> >You have education in the southern states?
>> Sadly, yes, but it's not that good - and Texas is big enough that the
>> publishers for textbooks tend to go with Texas' standards nationwide
>> rather than produce different books for different states.
>>
>>
> I heard that when the "evolution Vs creation" debate was ongoing.
Oh, yes, that's a big thing in Texas. m-/
>>> >But I was talking about the independence thing.:)
>> Yeah, I figured.:)
>
> She would make a good redneck with her complexion. ;)
LOL
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:18:07 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> Did you see the news article, where a BBC correspondent in South Korea,
> was talking on air and his young children burst into the room?
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-
interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral
Yeah, that one made the rounds, including one version that has our
esteemed POTUS as one of the kids.
>>> >I got my introduction to Classical music from someone who gave me a
>>> >running commentary of Beethoven's Emperor concerto. Not as a sports
>>> >announcer, though.:)
>> That could've been fun.:)
>>
>>
> I could go into it in more depth but I take the 5th. ;)
"And they're off on a four-note theme...."
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 3/20/2017 3:45 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:18:07 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Did you see the news article, where a BBC correspondent in South Korea,
>> was talking on air and his young children burst into the room?
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-
> interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral
>
> Yeah, that one made the rounds, including one version that has our
> esteemed POTUS as one of the kids.
>
When did POTUS enter the language?
>>>>> I got my introduction to Classical music from someone who gave me a
>>>>> running commentary of Beethoven's Emperor concerto. Not as a sports
>>>>> announcer, though.:)
>>> That could've been fun.:)
>>>
>>>
>> I could go into it in more depth but I take the 5th. ;)
>
> "And they're off on a four-note theme...."
>
>
>
I was going to say:
I'll talk! I'll talk!
But I liked that. Thanks.
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Stephen
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On 20-3-2017 14:42, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/20/2017 12:09 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 20-3-2017 10:18, Stephen wrote:
>>> Did you see the news article, where a BBC correspondent in South Korea,
>>> was talking on air and his young children burst into the room?
>>>
>>>
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That was hilarious. I must say though that the father did not react
>> well; he should have been much less strung up, more relaxed, after all
>> it is not the end of the world. What does it say about him? ;-)
>>
>
> There was a bit more to it than just that video.
> I'm told that lots of people thought his wife was a maid or child minder
> because she is Korean and that set off another rash of threads. Even
> though you can hear the girl saying "mommy".
>
> Here is his/their follow up interview.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-39232538
>
>
Yes, I happened to see it real time by chance. I think the main reason
why people thought that way was the extremely tense attitude the father
showed. For me, it was tell-tale in a sense, not about maid or such but
about his own stance in life as a father and/or in his professional
career. At least, the interview had made him very nervous.
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:10:18 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/20/2017 3:45 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:18:07 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Did you see the news article, where a BBC correspondent in South
>>> Korea,
>>> was talking on air and his young children burst into the room?
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-
>> interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral
>>
>> Yeah, that one made the rounds, including one version that has our
>> esteemed POTUS as one of the kids.
>>
>>
> When did POTUS enter the language?
1895, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. ;)
>>>>>> I got my introduction to Classical music from someone who gave me a
>>>>>> running commentary of Beethoven's Emperor concerto. Not as a sports
>>>>>> announcer, though.:)
>>>> That could've been fun.:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I could go into it in more depth but I take the 5th. ;)
>>
>> "And they're off on a four-note theme...."
>>
>>
>>
> I was going to say:
> I'll talk! I'll talk!
>
> But I liked that. Thanks.
Which actually is a line from the start of the Beethoven/Schickele
track. :D
Jim
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 3/22/2017 6:01 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:10:18 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 3/20/2017 3:45 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, that one made the rounds, including one version that has our
>>> esteemed POTUS as one of the kids.
>>>
>>>
>> When did POTUS enter the language?
>
> 1895, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. ;)
>
My, my. I only noticed it a couple of years ago.
>>>
>>>
>> I was going to say:
>> I'll talk! I'll talk!
>>
>> But I liked that. Thanks.
>
> Which actually is a line from the start of the Beethoven/Schickele
> track. :D
>
I was thinking more: the three stooges or the Marx Brothers.
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Stephen
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:04:54 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/22/2017 6:01 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:10:18 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/20/2017 3:45 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that one made the rounds, including one version that has our
>>>> esteemed POTUS as one of the kids.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> When did POTUS enter the language?
>>
>> 1895, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. ;)
>>
>>
> My, my. I only noticed it a couple of years ago.
SCOTUS predates it by about 10 years, IIRC. Both were originally used as
shortcuts for wire news services and telegraph messages.
The more you know... ;)
>>> I was going to say:
>>> I'll talk! I'll talk!
>>>
>>> But I liked that. Thanks.
>>
>> Which actually is a line from the start of the Beethoven/Schickele
>> track. :D
>>
>>
> I was thinking more: the three stooges or the Marx Brothers.
I thought so, which is why I specified. ;D
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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