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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Zazzle print
Date: 6 Dec 2015 04:57:21
Message: <56640681$1@news.povray.org>
When Zazzle first started, they just printed posters.

After a while, they started printing T-shirts too. (Although the actual 
printable area is a tiny fractal of the total surface area.)

A little while after that, they added the ability to print with opaque 
ink, allowing you to print light colours on dark fabric.

Then they started printing greetings cards. Which is an entirely 
sensible move.

Then they went slightly crazy. They let you print shopping bags, and 
ties, and key rings, and a few other things.

Having visited in the last few days, they seem to have gone full-on 
insane! Zazzle now print *everything*!

Some of the stuff they print makes a lot of sense. For example, they now 
print wrapping paper. (Surely a much-requested feature.) I can't help 
but feel that some of the designs on offer would have you spending hours 
trying to make the picture wrap nicely around the box, but that's not 
really Zazzle's fault. Some of the designs look damned fantastic, and 
would be really hard to find in shops.

They also now print table cloths, place mats (either fabric or 
laminated), tea towels, table runners (whatever they are), and even 
chopping boards. (The naff textured-glass kind, with a picture on the 
underside.)

Some of the stuff is more questionable. For example, they print plates. 
But although they are microwave and dishwasher safe, they recommend you 
use them only to serve "pre-cut food". Which leads me to believe the 
design is likely to wear off. They also sell the option of a decorative 
plate stand, which leads me to think they're expecting most people to 
put these things in a display stand. (They also sell paper plates, which 
I guess are gonna be much more popular!)

Similarly, they print tiles. But at £60 *per tile*, you aren't exactly 
going to tile your kitchen wall with these things. Again, there's the 
offer of a display stand. While I'm sure there's a bulk discount if you 
buy enough of them, they're still *way* too expensive to tile a wall 
with. At best, you could maybe have a wall of blue tiles with a single 
picture tile in the middle or something.

They even print tattoos! Temporary tattoos, that is. Or "transfers", as 
we call them. :-P

And then they sell some stuff which leaves me scratching my head. For 
example, they print poker chips. I can only imagine somebody printing a 
few for their stag night or something, with their name on them. Other 
than that... I don't know why you'd bother.

But they also print... wine stoppers. As in, for £25 (!) you can get a 
steel bottle stopper, with a tiny, tiny image printed on the top of the 
handle. Um, why bother?

Also, you know how restaurants have those little stand thingies with the 
pole and the hoop of wire, and you put your table number on it? Zazzle 
print those. As in, they have the stands, and the base is a brick of 
clear plastic, and they can glue a picture to the underside of it. Why 
would you bother? And who the hell is even going to buy that? I'm sure 
actual restaurants already have suppliers for such things. When was the 
last time *you* threw a party large enough to require table numbers?!

They also print cheese boards. As in, you get a circular wooden board, 
with a plastic lid, and when you take the lid out, there's a cutting 
surface, with two recesses which hold a pair of cheese knives. And the 
plastic lid is the only printable part. The part you're going to throw 
away, in all likelihood. Worth it! (Who even *has* a cheese board anyway?)

They also print gym bags. Or rather, they print a tiny 1-inch square on 
the side of an otherwise plain gym bag. (It's kinda cool that almost all 
their fabric products that can be printed can also be embroidered though.)

They also print lunch boxes. But not a box that holds your lunch. They 
print a paper insert into the lid of a huge plastic box that has a 
complex set of inserts with boxes and compartments and areas and stuff...

They also print shoes, which is interesting. They can print flip-flops. 
Or they can print canvas plimsolls. Which is interesting, because these 
are the few products where you can print *everything*. If only more 
stuff was like this! (Although I'm not sure I can think of much stuff 
worth printing on the meagre surface of a shoe.)

They still print old tat such as key fobs, badges and fridge magnets.

I leave you with a question: Would YOU buy this tie?

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/orange_lightning_tie_tie-151189304400272900

Because this is actually one of my biggest sellers! I put the ties on 
sale as a joke, and I've sold more of them than any other product. (!!) 
I can only imagine that somebody *really* wants to make a statement, or 
else these are getting bought as joke gifts or booby prizes or 
something... :-P


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 6 Dec 2015 17:32:51
Message: <5664b793$1@news.povray.org>
As George Carlin once said, if you make a thing, some schmuck will buy 
it.  Even a left nostril inhaler monogrammed with the state logo on it.

But from a retail point, a sale is a sale, regardless of what people 
bought it for. :)

Some people juggle geese, after all.

As for talbe number signs and so on - weddings are a thing, and some 
people have huge ones.  Most people also don't know that most restaurant 
supply stores will sell to the general public.  But if you want something 
customized, they're usually not set up for that sort of thing.

Another thing that people buy stuff like this for is marketing - for 
example, when I was teaching classes, we'd always have some giveaway for 
the students, and it always had the company name/logo on it.  So things 
like wine stoppers and other things that seem silly have their place in 
that market.

Jim

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 13:05:01
Message: <5665ca4d$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/12/2015 10:32 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Another thing that people buy stuff like this for is marketing - for
> example, when I was teaching classes, we'd always have some giveaway for
> the students, and it always had the company name/logo on it.  So things
> like wine stoppers and other things that seem silly have their place in
> that market.

Seems legit.

Some of the things they sell are surprising. For example, they sell gift 
boxes. You'd think they mean like the ones I saw in TK Max; with a 
design printed over the entire surface. But no, they mean a wooden box 
with a *tiny* inset picture in the top. Which seems like a rather wasted 
opportunity...

Maybe I should buy one of my own ties. Then again, I don't know how to 
tie a tie, so...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 13:31:53
Message: <5665d099$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...

Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.


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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 13:54:35
Message: <5665d5eb$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:05:03 +0000, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

> On 06/12/2015 10:32 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Another thing that people buy stuff like this for is marketing - for
>> example, when I was teaching classes, we'd always have some giveaway
>> for the students, and it always had the company name/logo on it.  So
>> things like wine stoppers and other things that seem silly have their
>> place in that market.
> 
> Seems legit.
> 
> Some of the things they sell are surprising. For example, they sell gift
> boxes. You'd think they mean like the ones I saw in TK Max; with a
> design printed over the entire surface. But no, they mean a wooden box
> with a *tiny* inset picture in the top. Which seems like a rather wasted
> opportunity...
> 
> Maybe I should buy one of my own ties. Then again, I don't know how to
> tie a tie, so...

Fortunately, there are videos on Youtube that show you how. :)

Jim



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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 13:55:26
Message: <5665d61e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:31:51 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...
> 
> Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.

That is something I can agree with, though.  I consider myself quite 
fortunate in that I don't have to wear one very often at all (so far, 
very rarely for work, and not on this job), and can work in my sleep 
clothes most days. :)

Jim



-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 13:59:07
Message: <5665d6fb$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/12/2015 06:31 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...
>
> Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.

Hell yeah! Why not wrap a superfluous piece of fabric around my vital 
organs. Can't see any way that could be a problem...


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 14:15:05
Message: <5665dab9$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:59:10 +0000, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

> On 07/12/2015 06:31 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...
>>
>> Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.
> 
> Hell yeah! Why not wrap a superfluous piece of fabric around my vital
> organs. Can't see any way that could be a problem...

Years ago, I worked for a company where the CFO got his tie caught in a 
paper shredder - before paper shredders had an auto-shutoff mechanism.

The way he described it sounded like a wholly terrifying experience.  He 
was able to get it unplugged or turned off before it started to tighten 
the tie too much.  The aftermath on the tie itself was pretty impressive.

Jim



-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 14:44:38
Message: <5665e1a6$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/7/2015 6:59 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 07/12/2015 06:31 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...
>>
>> Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.
>
> Hell yeah! Why not wrap a superfluous piece of fabric around my vital
> organs. Can't see any way that could be a problem...

What ever turns you on.
Perv. ;-)


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 14:51:15
Message: <5665e333$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/7/2015 6:55 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:31:51 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...
>>
>> Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.
>
> That is something I can agree with, though.  I consider myself quite
> fortunate in that I don't have to wear one very often at all (so far,
> very rarely for work, and not on this job), and can work in my sleep
> clothes most days. :)
>

The mind boggles, Jim. Thank you for sharing. :-)

I generally wear one on the first day just to show that I can be 
presentable. Then keep it in a drawer till I leave.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 14:55:32
Message: <5665e434$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/7/2015 7:15 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:59:10 +0000, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
>> On 07/12/2015 06:31 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>>> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...
>>>
>>> Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.
>>
>> Hell yeah! Why not wrap a superfluous piece of fabric around my vital
>> organs. Can't see any way that could be a problem...
>
> Years ago, I worked for a company where the CFO got his tie caught in a
> paper shredder - before paper shredders had an auto-shutoff mechanism.
>
> The way he described it sounded like a wholly terrifying experience.  He
> was able to get it unplugged or turned off before it started to tighten
> the tie too much.  The aftermath on the tie itself was pretty impressive.
>
I once caught a ring in a door handle and nearly gloved my hand. I've 
never worn jewellery (nor ties) since.



-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 16:10:47
Message: <5665f5d7$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:51:12 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 12/7/2015 6:55 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:31:51 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>>> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...
>>>
>>> Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.
>>
>> That is something I can agree with, though.  I consider myself quite
>> fortunate in that I don't have to wear one very often at all (so far,
>> very rarely for work, and not on this job), and can work in my sleep
>> clothes most days. :)
>>
>>
> The mind boggles, Jim. Thank you for sharing. :-)
> 
> I generally wear one on the first day just to show that I can be
> presentable. Then keep it in a drawer till I leave.

Yeah, I've got a few that I got for interviews when I was interviewing, 
but otherwise, I avoid them like the plague.

Jim



-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 17:10:48
Message: <566603e8$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/12/2015 07:15 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Years ago, I worked for a company where the CFO got his tie caught in a
> paper shredder - before paper shredders had an auto-shutoff mechanism.

Pfft. My dad tells a tale of one of his school buddies getting his tie 
caught in a 4-tonne lathe...

Those things have an emergency stop button for a reason. Fat lot of good 
it does if nobody within reach of the button notices the problem. 
Fortunately for this guy, somebody pushed the button. Then they just had 
to find something to cut the tie with...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 7 Dec 2015 17:24:02
Message: <56660702$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/7/2015 9:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> >I generally wear one on the first day just to show that I can be
>> >presentable. Then keep it in a drawer till I leave.
> Yeah, I've got a few that I got for interviews when I was interviewing,
> but otherwise, I avoid them like the plague.

I've got a few, two of them were owned by Tommy Cooper. My wife bought 
them for me at a church fair. His wife donated them. I also bought a 
couple of silk ties in Hong Kong one of them with the Happy Mac icon 
with arms and legs.
I always use a full Windsor knot if I have to wear one.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 8 Dec 2015 11:58:54
Message: <56670c4e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:10:51 +0000, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

> On 07/12/2015 07:15 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Years ago, I worked for a company where the CFO got his tie caught in a
>> paper shredder - before paper shredders had an auto-shutoff mechanism.
> 
> Pfft. My dad tells a tale of one of his school buddies getting his tie
> caught in a 4-tonne lathe...

Ouch.  That would suck.

> Those things have an emergency stop button for a reason. Fat lot of good
> it does if nobody within reach of the button notices the problem.
> Fortunately for this guy, somebody pushed the button. Then they just had
> to find something to cut the tie with...

Heh, yeah, that was the problem that CFO had as well - he ended up in a 
position where he couldn't reach anything that could shut it off until 
after 2/3 of the tie was chewed up.  This was an industrial shredder, not 
the kind of thing like I have in the corner of my home office. :)

Jim



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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 8 Dec 2015 11:59:02
Message: <56670c56$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:55:29 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 12/7/2015 7:15 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:59:10 +0000, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/12/2015 06:31 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 12/7/2015 6:05 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>>>> Then again, I don't know how to tie a tie, so...
>>>>
>>>> Well that is a plus. It is a most ridiculous fashion.
>>>
>>> Hell yeah! Why not wrap a superfluous piece of fabric around my vital
>>> organs. Can't see any way that could be a problem...
>>
>> Years ago, I worked for a company where the CFO got his tie caught in a
>> paper shredder - before paper shredders had an auto-shutoff mechanism.
>>
>> The way he described it sounded like a wholly terrifying experience. 
>> He was able to get it unplugged or turned off before it started to
>> tighten the tie too much.  The aftermath on the tie itself was pretty
>> impressive.
>>
> I once caught a ring in a door handle and nearly gloved my hand. I've
> never worn jewellery (nor ties) since.

Ouch.

Jim



-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 8 Dec 2015 12:02:07
Message: <56670d0f$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:24:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 12/7/2015 9:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> >I generally wear one on the first day just to show that I can be
>>> >presentable. Then keep it in a drawer till I leave.
>> Yeah, I've got a few that I got for interviews when I was interviewing,
>> but otherwise, I avoid them like the plague.
> 
> I've got a few, two of them were owned by Tommy Cooper. My wife bought
> them for me at a church fair. His wife donated them. I also bought a
> couple of silk ties in Hong Kong one of them with the Happy Mac icon
> with arms and legs.

Those sound particularly silly.  I always personally have liked the ties 
Neil DeGrasse Tyson wears.

> I always use a full Windsor knot if I have to wear one.

I have heard the name, but I honestly don't know which knot I use. :)

Jim



-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 10 Dec 2015 13:35:57
Message: <5669c60d@news.povray.org>
On 12/8/2015 5:02 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:24:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 12/7/2015 9:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>> I generally wear one on the first day just to show that I can be
>>>>> presentable. Then keep it in a drawer till I leave.
>>> Yeah, I've got a few that I got for interviews when I was interviewing,
>>> but otherwise, I avoid them like the plague.
>>
>> I've got a few, two of them were owned by Tommy Cooper. My wife bought
>> them for me at a church fair. His wife donated them. I also bought a
>> couple of silk ties in Hong Kong one of them with the Happy Mac icon
>> with arms and legs.
>
> Those sound particularly silly.  I always personally have liked the ties
> Neil DeGrasse Tyson wears.
>

I could go with those. :-)

>> I always use a full Windsor knot if I have to wear one.
>
> I have heard the name, but I honestly don't know which knot I use. :)
>
The Windsor knot is the one that is symmetrical and looks as if you can 
tie a tie properly.

This is a good example
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JuOgaFnpTB0/maxresdefault.jpg

This is a sloppy one
http://images.askmen.com/1200x600/video/fashion/how-to-tie-a-tie-the-windsor-knot-1083096-TwoByOne.jpg



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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Zazzle print
Date: 10 Dec 2015 20:28:54
Message: <566a26d6$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:35:50 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 12/8/2015 5:02 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:24:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/7/2015 9:10 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>> I generally wear one on the first day just to show that I can be
>>>>>> presentable. Then keep it in a drawer till I leave.
>>>> Yeah, I've got a few that I got for interviews when I was
>>>> interviewing,
>>>> but otherwise, I avoid them like the plague.
>>>
>>> I've got a few, two of them were owned by Tommy Cooper. My wife bought
>>> them for me at a church fair. His wife donated them. I also bought a
>>> couple of silk ties in Hong Kong one of them with the Happy Mac icon
>>> with arms and legs.
>>
>> Those sound particularly silly.  I always personally have liked the
>> ties Neil DeGrasse Tyson wears.
>>
>>
> I could go with those. :-)
> 
>>> I always use a full Windsor knot if I have to wear one.
>>
>> I have heard the name, but I honestly don't know which knot I use. :)
>>
> The Windsor knot is the one that is symmetrical and looks as if you can
> tie a tie properly.
> 
> This is a good example
> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JuOgaFnpTB0/maxresdefault.jpg
> 
> This is a sloppy one
> http://images.askmen.com/1200x600/video/fashion/how-to-tie-a-tie-the-
windsor-knot-1083096-TwoByOne.jpg

That's probably not the knot I use. :)

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Zazzle size
Date: 11 Dec 2015 14:23:31
Message: <566b22b3$1@news.povray.org>
So I ordered some Christmas cards from Zazzle.

They now print them in two sizes - a normal one, and a slightly larger 
one. So I ordered most of the cards in normal size, and a couple in 
large size.

OK, wow. I had *no idea* the large ones would be so utterly huge! I now 
kinda have a problem, in that if anybody sees me give out the super 
ultra mega huge cards, they'll be wondering why they only got a regular 
size one!

Seriously, this thing is bigger than A4. (That's *before* you open it. 
So the opened card is larger than A3.) Wow... I guess you _can_ have too 
much of a good thing?


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