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So it's 9PM on a Saturday night, and I'm reading the Dragon Book. So
there's that.
(I didn't actually intend to; I just did a Google search, and started
reading a PDF. I only just realised it's the Dragon Book...)
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On 10/31/2015 8:48 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> So it's 9PM on a Saturday night, and I'm reading the Dragon Book. So
> there's that.
>
> (I didn't actually intend to; I just did a Google search, and started
> reading a PDF. I only just realised it's the Dragon Book...)
Which colour of dragon?
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Stephen
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On 31/10/2015 09:04 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 10/31/2015 8:48 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> So it's 9PM on a Saturday night, and I'm reading the Dragon Book. So
>> there's that.
>>
>> (I didn't actually intend to; I just did a Google search, and started
>> reading a PDF. I only just realised it's the Dragon Book...)
>
> Which colour of dragon?
Can't tell; the PDF only contains chapter 8.
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On 31-10-2015 22:08, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 31/10/2015 09:04 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 10/31/2015 8:48 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> So it's 9PM on a Saturday night, and I'm reading the Dragon Book. So
>>> there's that.
>>>
>>> (I didn't actually intend to; I just did a Google search, and started
>>> reading a PDF. I only just realised it's the Dragon Book...)
>>
>> Which colour of dragon?
>
> Can't tell; the PDF only contains chapter 8.
Really? This:
http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/agbkb/lehre/ccfl/Material/ALSUdragonbook.pdf
seems to have it all.
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On 01/11/2015 08:01 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 31-10-2015 22:08, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> On 31/10/2015 09:04 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>> Which colour of dragon?
>>
>> Can't tell; the PDF only contains chapter 8.
>
> Really? This:
> http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/agbkb/lehre/ccfl/Material/ALSUdragonbook.pdf
>
> seems to have it all.
The URL that Google gave me was
http://dragonbook.stanford.edu/lecture-notes/Stanford-CS143/08-Bottom-Up-Parsing.pdf
If you move up a folder, it seems to have other chapters too. But I
still don't know which version of the book it is. (Or why it's legal to
put it on the web like this...)
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On 1-11-2015 10:03, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 01/11/2015 08:01 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 31-10-2015 22:08, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> On 31/10/2015 09:04 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>>> Which colour of dragon?
>>>
>>> Can't tell; the PDF only contains chapter 8.
>>
>> Really? This:
>> http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/agbkb/lehre/ccfl/Material/ALSUdragonbook.pdf
>>
>>
>> seems to have it all.
>
> The URL that Google gave me was
>
> http://dragonbook.stanford.edu/lecture-notes/Stanford-CS143/08-Bottom-Up-Parsing.pdf
>
>
> If you move up a folder, it seems to have other chapters too. But I
> still don't know which version of the book it is. (Or why it's legal to
> put it on the web like this...)
The version I found on Google says 'Second Edition' which seems to be
1986 ("The Purple Dragon Book").
It looks like the universities (Bremen, Stanford) put it online for
their students, but why it has gone public is strange, except if the
author has accepted to have the book in both forms. I know of at least
one other example where this is the case indeed (a study book of Old
English grammar).
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On 11/1/2015 9:13 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 1-11-2015 10:03, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> If you move up a folder, it seems to have other chapters too. But I
>> still don't know which version of the book it is. (Or why it's legal to
>> put it on the web like this...)
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild,_Inc._v._Google,_Inc.
> The version I found on Google says 'Second Edition' which seems to be
> 1986 ("The Purple Dragon Book").
>
> It looks like the universities (Bremen, Stanford) put it online for
> their students, but why it has gone public is strange, except if the
> author has accepted to have the book in both forms. I know of at least
> one other example where this is the case indeed (a study book of Old
> English grammar).
>
Interesting, do you have a link?
I have an original Old English grammar book from the 18th (?) Century. I
don't have it to hand but the font is one of those that has the letter
"s" looks like a "f" when it is inside the word. It also said that there
were only two tenses, present and past. IIRC
--
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Stephen
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On 01/11/2015 09:36 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/1/2015 9:13 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 1-11-2015 10:03, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
>>> If you move up a folder, it seems to have other chapters too. But I
>>> still don't know which version of the book it is. (Or why it's legal to
>>> put it on the web like this...)
>>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild,_Inc._v._Google,_Inc.
Oh sure, if it's on the web, it's perfectly legal for Google to index
it. My point was more how it got to be on the public web in the first
place...
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On 11/1/2015 9:53 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 01/11/2015 09:36 AM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 11/1/2015 9:13 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 1-11-2015 10:03, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>
>>>> If you move up a folder, it seems to have other chapters too. But I
>>>> still don't know which version of the book it is. (Or why it's legal to
>>>> put it on the web like this...)
>>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild,_Inc._v._Google,_Inc.
>
> Oh sure, if it's on the web, it's perfectly legal for Google to index
> it. My point was more how it got to be on the public web in the first
> place...
The link you gave is Stanford University's own site. It is a handout for
their students. Stanford University does that. Several years ago I
downloaded MoCap files that they made public for a course they were
running. You will probably find that it is removed when the course is over.
--
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Stephen
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On 1-11-2015 10:36, Stephen wrote:
> Interesting, do you have a link?
> I have an original Old English grammar book from the 18th (?) Century. I
> don't have it to hand but the font is one of those that has the letter
> "s" looks like a "f" when it is inside the word. It also said that there
> were only two tenses, present and past. IIRC
>
https://web.archive.org/web/20150907011523/https://wmich.edu/medieval/resources/IOE/index.html
Not a pdf I am afraid but well usable. I found it recently when I got
interested in Old English after reading the Beowulf translation by
J.R.R. Tolkien. Interestingly, I found that there are a lot of O.E.
words and sentence constructions that are similar to Dutch or Frisian
(and German no doubt). Not so surprising as the language was spoken on
both sides of the North Sea.
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On 11/1/2015 12:32 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
https://web.archive.org/web/20150907011523/https://wmich.edu/medieval/resources/IOE/index.html
>
>
> Not a pdf I am afraid but well usable. I found it recently when I got
> interested in Old English after reading the Beowulf translation by
> J.R.R. Tolkien. Interestingly, I found that there are a lot of O.E.
> words and sentence constructions that are similar to Dutch or Frisian
> (and German no doubt). Not so surprising as the language was spoken on
> both sides of the North Sea.
Thanks Thomas,
Chapters 1 and 4 give a 404, Not found.
To be honest Early English is a bit of a black hole to me. The earliest
I can read is Chaucer's Middle English.
I could read or at least get the meaning of Modern Dutch on posters and
adverts. Quite hand when travelling by train, I might add.
--
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Stephen
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Am 01.11.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Stephen:
> I could read or at least get the meaning of Modern Dutch on posters and
> adverts. Quite hand when travelling by train, I might add.
Musing about Dutch and English and German, I'm somehow reminded of a
memorial plate on a Dutch church, which reported that the building had
suffered heavy damage in the 1940s from "beschieting dor de engelsen".
As tragic as the event surely was, for a German with some rudimentary
Westphalian language background it can invoke quite humorous
associations, as in the Westphalian dialect "Schiet" (spoken "sheet")
translates to "shit", and the German "Engel" is "angel"...
... so come again - _what_ happened to the church?! :P
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On 11/1/2015 10:00 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 01.11.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Stephen:
>
>> I could read or at least get the meaning of Modern Dutch on posters and
>> adverts. Quite hand when travelling by train, I might add.
>
> Musing about Dutch and English and German, I'm somehow reminded of a
> memorial plate on a Dutch church, which reported that the building had
> suffered heavy damage in the 1940s from "beschieting dor de engelsen".
>
> As tragic as the event surely was, for a German with some rudimentary
> Westphalian language background it can invoke quite humorous
> associations, as in the Westphalian dialect "Schiet" (spoken "sheet")
> translates to "shit", and the German "Engel" is "angel"...
> .... so come again - _what_ happened to the church?! :P
>
For starters
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=beschieting+dor+de+engelsen%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=QZE2VqH9Mcu7UaH3s_AP#q=%22beschieting+dor+de+engelsen+translate
--
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Am 01.11.2015 um 23:29 schrieb Stephen:
> On 11/1/2015 10:00 PM, clipka wrote:
>> Am 01.11.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Stephen:
>>
>>> I could read or at least get the meaning of Modern Dutch on posters and
>>> adverts. Quite hand when travelling by train, I might add.
>>
>> Musing about Dutch and English and German, I'm somehow reminded of a
>> memorial plate on a Dutch church, which reported that the building had
>> suffered heavy damage in the 1940s from "beschieting dor de engelsen".
>>
>> As tragic as the event surely was, for a German with some rudimentary
>> Westphalian language background it can invoke quite humorous
>> associations, as in the Westphalian dialect "Schiet" (spoken "sheet")
>> translates to "shit", and the German "Engel" is "angel"...
>> .... so come again - _what_ happened to the church?! :P
>>
>
> For starters
>
>
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=beschieting+dor+de+engelsen%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=QZE2VqH9Mcu7UaH3s_AP#q=%22beschieting+dor+de+engelsen+translate
"Dry firing the English" - yes, that makes more sense... ;)
(Did you know that dry firing is bad for any gun? It can cause the
firing pin to become brittle and possibly fracture. Never, ever, dry
fire anyone else's gun without first asking their permission. And never,
ever, dry fire an Englishman. First make him drink a pint or two, _then_
give him the sack.)
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On 1-11-2015 23:00, clipka wrote:
> Am 01.11.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Stephen:
>
>> I could read or at least get the meaning of Modern Dutch on posters and
>> adverts. Quite hand when travelling by train, I might add.
>
> Musing about Dutch and English and German, I'm somehow reminded of a
> memorial plate on a Dutch church, which reported that the building had
> suffered heavy damage in the 1940s from "beschieting dor de engelsen".
>
> As tragic as the event surely was, for a German with some rudimentary
> Westphalian language background it can invoke quite humorous
> associations, as in the Westphalian dialect "Schiet" (spoken "sheet")
> translates to "shit", and the German "Engel" is "angel"...
> ... so come again - _what_ happened to the church?! :P
>
LOL
[musing] Wish things had been that way indeed.
Shows interesting things about language evolution.
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On 2-11-2015 2:08, clipka wrote:
> Am 01.11.2015 um 23:29 schrieb Stephen:
>> On 11/1/2015 10:00 PM, clipka wrote:
>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Stephen:
>>>
>>>> I could read or at least get the meaning of Modern Dutch on posters and
>>>> adverts. Quite hand when travelling by train, I might add.
>>>
>>> Musing about Dutch and English and German, I'm somehow reminded of a
>>> memorial plate on a Dutch church, which reported that the building had
>>> suffered heavy damage in the 1940s from "beschieting dor de engelsen".
>>>
>>> As tragic as the event surely was, for a German with some rudimentary
>>> Westphalian language background it can invoke quite humorous
>>> associations, as in the Westphalian dialect "Schiet" (spoken "sheet")
>>> translates to "shit", and the German "Engel" is "angel"...
>>> .... so come again - _what_ happened to the church?! :P
>>>
>>
>> For starters
>>
>>
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=beschieting+dor+de+engelsen%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=QZE2VqH9Mcu7UaH3s_AP#q=%22beschieting+dor+de+engelsen+translate
>
> "Dry firing the English" - yes, that makes more sense... ;)
>
> (Did you know that dry firing is bad for any gun? It can cause the
> firing pin to become brittle and possibly fracture. Never, ever, dry
> fire anyone else's gun without first asking their permission. And never,
> ever, dry fire an Englishman. First make him drink a pint or two, _then_
> give him the sack.)
>
Well, Stephen made a typing mistake: 'dor' instead of 'door' ;-) The
real meaning thus is: 'bombardment by the English'. The church visibly
was in the wrong location at the wrong time (which happens even to holy
objects, or more so).
--
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On 1-11-2015 14:39, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/1/2015 12:32 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
https://web.archive.org/web/20150907011523/https://wmich.edu/medieval/resources/IOE/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Not a pdf I am afraid but well usable. I found it recently when I got
>> interested in Old English after reading the Beowulf translation by
>> J.R.R. Tolkien. Interestingly, I found that there are a lot of O.E.
>> words and sentence constructions that are similar to Dutch or Frisian
>> (and German no doubt). Not so surprising as the language was spoken on
>> both sides of the North Sea.
>
> Thanks Thomas,
> Chapters 1 and 4 give a 404, Not found.
> To be honest Early English is a bit of a black hole to me. The earliest
> I can read is Chaucer's Middle English.
> I could read or at least get the meaning of Modern Dutch on posters and
> adverts. Quite hand when travelling by train, I might add.
>
Strange about that 404. I believe that you can switch dates on the
Wayback Machine banner and so find the missing chapters. I just did it
now. Anyway, I downloaded the pages to be certain to have local access.
Middle English is already easier to read without help indeed. I have
always liked the challenge to try to read old texts, especially in a
historical settings which attracts me in the first place like the Early
Medieval period. And I am a bit envious of people like Tolkien who could
write and speak Old English as if it was his native tongue:
"On ǽrdagum wæs wuniende be norþdǽlum middangeardes sum cyning, þe ángan
dohtor hæfde. On his húse wæs éac án cniht óþrum ungelíc."
I hope the special characters will be readable. This the beginning of
Sellic Spell, a proto-Beowulf tale imagined by Tolkien and written in
O.E. by him. Can you understand what is written? Note that 'h' is
gutural aspiration as in German 'ach', and 'y' is 'ü', and some words
become clear :-)
--
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On 11/2/2015 7:59 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>
> Well, Stephen made a typing mistake: 'dor' instead of 'door' ;-) The
> real meaning thus is: 'bombardment by the English'. The church visibly
> was in the wrong location at the wrong time (which happens even to holy
> objects, or more so)
Or possibly the original poster made it and I believed him to be
infallible. ;-)
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Stephen
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On 11/2/2015 8:25 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Strange about that 404. I believe that you can switch dates on the
> Wayback Machine banner and so find the missing chapters. I just did it
> now. Anyway, I downloaded the pages to be certain to have local access.
>
I tried a date close to the posted one but one of the missing chapters
was still not there. Lost interest, I am afraid.
> Middle English is already easier to read without help indeed.
Indeed it is. I did have a year of Chaucer when I was at school and that
helps.
> I have
> always liked the challenge to try to read old texts, especially in a
> historical settings which attracts me in the first place like the Early
> Medieval period. And I am a bit envious of people like Tolkien who could
> write and speak Old English as if it was his native tongue:
>
Well I am not an academic and think those things should be left to them
and their ilk. ;-)
> "On ǽrdagum wæs wuniende be norþdǽlum middangeardes sum cyning, þe ángan
> dohtor hæfde. On his húse wæs éac án cniht óþrum ungelíc."
>
Not from the excerpt you posted but I could pick out more phrases from
the whole story. I don't know if being dyslectic helps or hinders. I
would certainly need a dictionary to go further.
> I hope the special characters will be readable. This the beginning of
> Sellic Spell, a proto-Beowulf tale imagined by Tolkien and written in
> O.E. by him. Can you understand what is written? Note that 'h' is
> gutural aspiration as in German 'ach', and 'y' is 'ü', and some words
> become clear :-)
Yes the characters are readable. It reminds me of an old friend who
could recite Chaucer in a broad Scottish accent. It was much more
understandable when spoken. At least to me.
Talking about old and ancient things and remembering the image you
posted a few years back. Have you read this article?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32532893
--
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Stephen
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On 11/2/2015 1:08 AM, clipka wrote:
> "Dry firing the English" - yes, that makes more sense...;)
>
I read it as "Dry frying the English" at first.
> (Did you know that dry firing is bad for any gun? It can cause the
> firing pin to become brittle and possibly fracture. Never, ever, dry
> fire anyone else's gun without first asking their permission.
No I did not know that. But then I know very little about guns except
that they don't kill people. Or so I am told.
> And never,
> ever, dry fire an Englishman. First make him drink a pint or two,_then_
> give him the sack.)
That would be a pint or two of sack before giving him the order of the
boot. ;-)
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On 2-11-2015 10:44, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/2/2015 8:25 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Strange about that 404. I believe that you can switch dates on the
>> Wayback Machine banner and so find the missing chapters. I just did it
>> now. Anyway, I downloaded the pages to be certain to have local access.
>>
>
> I tried a date close to the posted one but one of the missing chapters
> was still not there. Lost interest, I am afraid.
>
>
>> Middle English is already easier to read without help indeed.
>
> Indeed it is. I did have a year of Chaucer when I was at school and that
> helps.
Yes, good! Instead of Chaucer I had the French troubadours and
trouvères. Marvellous language which has inspired me for many years.
>
>> I have
>> always liked the challenge to try to read old texts, especially in a
>> historical settings which attracts me in the first place like the Early
>> Medieval period. And I am a bit envious of people like Tolkien who could
>> write and speak Old English as if it was his native tongue:
>>
>
> Well I am not an academic and think those things should be left to them
> and their ilk. ;-)
Oh, we can do our own little bit ;-) It is useless, but I would love to
speak Old English, just for the fun of it.
>
>> "On ǽrdagum wæs wuniende be norþdǽlum middangeardes sum cyning, þe ángan
>> dohtor hæfde. On his húse wæs éac án cniht óþrum ungelíc."
>>
>
> Not from the excerpt you posted but I could pick out more phrases from
> the whole story. I don't know if being dyslectic helps or hinders. I
> would certainly need a dictionary to go further.
Absolutely.
>
>> I hope the special characters will be readable. This the beginning of
>> Sellic Spell, a proto-Beowulf tale imagined by Tolkien and written in
>> O.E. by him. Can you understand what is written? Note that 'h' is
>> gutural aspiration as in German 'ach', and 'y' is 'ü', and some words
>> become clear :-)
>
> Yes the characters are readable. It reminds me of an old friend who
> could recite Chaucer in a broad Scottish accent. It was much more
> understandable when spoken. At least to me.
Yes, I think that is the point: we may sometimes be more able to
recognise the old language when spoken aloud as it has survived longer
it seems in today's dialects or regional languages.
>
> Talking about old and ancient things and remembering the image you
> posted a few years back. Have you read this article?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32532893
>
I had not read it, thanks. Always an interesting topic to me.
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On 11/2/2015 12:35 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 2-11-2015 10:44, Stephen wrote:
>> Indeed it is. I did have a year of Chaucer when I was at school and that
>> helps.
>
> Yes, good! Instead of Chaucer I had the French troubadours and
> trouvères. Marvellous language which has inspired me for many years.
>
Bloody Toffs! Off with their heads.
>>
>> Well I am not an academic and think those things should be left to them
>> and their ilk. ;-)
>
> Oh, we can do our own little bit ;-) It is useless, but I would love to
> speak Old English, just for the fun of it.
>
Every boy needs a hobby.
Actually I would love to speak another language, even if it was English. ;-)
>> Yes the characters are readable. It reminds me of an old friend who
>> could recite Chaucer in a broad Scottish accent. It was much more
>> understandable when spoken. At least to me.
>
> Yes, I think that is the point: we may sometimes be more able to
> recognise the old language when spoken aloud as it has survived longer
> it seems in today's dialects or regional languages.
>
Indeed it does as it seems to me.
>>
>> Talking about old and ancient things and remembering the image you
>> posted a few years back. Have you read this article?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32532893
>>
>
> I had not read it, thanks. Always an interesting topic to me.
>
The first thing I thought of when I saw the photos.
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Stephen
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Am 02.11.2015 um 08:59 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> Well, Stephen made a typing mistake: 'dor' instead of 'door' ;-)
Nah, that was me.
> The church visibly
> was in the wrong location at the wrong time (which happens even to holy
> objects, or more so).
"Wrong place wrong time" sounds a bit weird when talking about immobile
property... it's not like they could have wheeled it off to someplace
else in time, I guess.
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Am 02.11.2015 um 10:51 schrieb Stephen:
>> (Did you know that dry firing is bad for any gun? It can cause the
>> firing pin to become brittle and possibly fracture. Never, ever, dry
>> fire anyone else's gun without first asking their permission.
>
> No I did not know that. But then I know very little about guns except
> that they don't kill people. Or so I am told.
One of the random facts I just happened to pick up the other day. Never
held any weapon myself, except for an air rifle once.
>> And never,
>> ever, dry fire an Englishman. First make him drink a pint or two,_then_
>> give him the sack.)
>
> That would be a pint or two of sack before giving him the order of the
> boot. ;-)
Is that somehow related to the order of the garter?
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On 11/3/2015 5:46 AM, clipka wrote:
> Am 02.11.2015 um 10:51 schrieb Stephen:
>
>>> (Did you know that dry firing is bad for any gun? It can cause the
>>> firing pin to become brittle and possibly fracture. Never, ever, dry
>>> fire anyone else's gun without first asking their permission.
>>
>> No I did not know that. But then I know very little about guns except
>> that they don't kill people. Or so I am told.
>
> One of the random facts I just happened to pick up the other day. Never
> held any weapon myself, except for an air rifle once.
>
I've used a .22 rifle. Would you believe that they used to have them at
fun fairs, with the public walking around? They also let children (me)
fire them. I assume that the bullets were under charged.
I'm not a good shot. (Right handed with left eye dominant.) I need
gimbaled weapons. ;-)
>>> And never,
>>> ever, dry fire an Englishman. First make him drink a pint or two,_then_
>>> give him the sack.)
>>
>> That would be a pint or two of sack before giving him the order of the
>> boot. ;-)
>
> Is that somehow related to the order of the garter?
>
LOL
No it is the same as getting your jotters, your marching orders, your
cards etc.
http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-synonyms/to%20get%20the%20sack
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 3-11-2015 6:41, clipka wrote:
> Am 02.11.2015 um 08:59 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> Well, Stephen made a typing mistake: 'dor' instead of 'door' ;-)
>
> Nah, that was me.
Oh! Got the wrong sinner :-)
>
>> The church visibly
>> was in the wrong location at the wrong time (which happens even to holy
>> objects, or more so).
>
> "Wrong place wrong time" sounds a bit weird when talking about immobile
> property... it's not like they could have wheeled it off to someplace
> else in time, I guess.
>
I was waiting for some comment on that ;-)
--
Thomas
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On 2-11-2015 18:46, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/2/2015 12:35 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 2-11-2015 10:44, Stephen wrote:
>
>>> Indeed it is. I did have a year of Chaucer when I was at school and that
>>> helps.
>>
>> Yes, good! Instead of Chaucer I had the French troubadours and
>> trouvères. Marvellous language which has inspired me for many years.
>>
>
> Bloody Toffs! Off with their heads.
Fie! know your place, man!
>
>
>>>
>>> Well I am not an academic and think those things should be left to them
>>> and their ilk. ;-)
>>
>> Oh, we can do our own little bit ;-) It is useless, but I would love to
>> speak Old English, just for the fun of it.
>>
>
> Every boy needs a hobby.
> Actually I would love to speak another language, even if it was English.
> ;-)
Yes, that would be useful :-0
--
Thomas
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On 11/3/2015 8:01 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 2-11-2015 18:46, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, good! Instead of Chaucer I had the French troubadours and
>>> trouvères. Marvellous language which has inspired me for many years.
>>>
>>
>> Bloody Toffs! Off with their heads.
>
> Fie! know your place, man!
>
I have enough problems with Dr. John on that subject. Don't you start. :-)
>>
>> Every boy needs a hobby.
>> Actually I would love to speak another language, even if it was English.
>> ;-)
>
> Yes, that would be useful :-0
>
>
You're telling me. :-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 3-11-2015 9:25, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/3/2015 8:01 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 2-11-2015 18:46, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, good! Instead of Chaucer I had the French troubadours and
>>>> trouvères. Marvellous language which has inspired me for many years.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bloody Toffs! Off with their heads.
>>
>> Fie! know your place, man!
>>
>
> I have enough problems with Dr. John on that subject. Don't you start. :-)
I wouldn't dare!
>
>
>>>
>>> Every boy needs a hobby.
>>> Actually I would love to speak another language, even if it was English.
>>> ;-)
>>
>> Yes, that would be useful :-0
>>
>>
>
>
> You're telling me. :-)
>
I am struggling with it. Every day.
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Thomas
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