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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:03:45 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 07/14/2015 06:51 PM, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
>> James Holsenback <nom### [at] none com> wrote:
>>> I've been staying away from flash for quite sometime now ... so it's
>>> about time
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33520935
>>
>> Personally, I find this annoying as hell. I use youtube. I visit
>> sites that have embedded video. Very few of them use HTML5, and as
>> yet, nobody has come up with an alternative that works.
>
> there's a couple of flash to html5 plugins for firefox and that work
> fine (I visit youtube often and they work well) ... true enough though
> that there are plenty of sites that haven't seen the light. now perhaps
> mozilla's strong arming will prompt a move away from perhaps the most
> insecure piece of software on the planet. my comments to bbc's new look
> a few months ago included a rant about flash content ... javascript is a
> close second.
??? Youtube supports HTML5....
Jim
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 07/14/2015 07:38 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:03:45 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
>
>> On 07/14/2015 06:51 PM, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
>>> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
>>>> I've been staying away from flash for quite sometime now ... so it's
>>>> about time
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33520935
>>>
>>> Personally, I find this annoying as hell. I use youtube. I visit
>>> sites that have embedded video. Very few of them use HTML5, and as
>>> yet, nobody has come up with an alternative that works.
>>
>> there's a couple of flash to html5 plugins for firefox and that work
>> fine (I visit youtube often and they work well) ... true enough though
>> that there are plenty of sites that haven't seen the light. now perhaps
>> mozilla's strong arming will prompt a move away from perhaps the most
>> insecure piece of software on the planet. my comments to bbc's new look
>> a few months ago included a rant about flash content ... javascript is a
>> close second.
>
> ??? Youtube supports HTML5....
yep
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On 07/14/2015 08:07 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 07/14/2015 07:38 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:03:45 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/14/2015 06:51 PM, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
>>>> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
>>>>> I've been staying away from flash for quite sometime now ... so it's
>>>>> about time
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33520935
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I find this annoying as hell. I use youtube. I visit
>>>> sites that have embedded video. Very few of them use HTML5, and as
>>>> yet, nobody has come up with an alternative that works.
>>>
>>> there's a couple of flash to html5 plugins for firefox and that work
>>> fine (I visit youtube often and they work well) ... true enough though
>>> that there are plenty of sites that haven't seen the light. now perhaps
>>> mozilla's strong arming will prompt a move away from perhaps the most
>>> insecure piece of software on the planet. my comments to bbc's new look
>>> a few months ago included a rant about flash content ... javascript is a
>>> close second.
>>
>> ??? Youtube supports HTML5....
>
> yep
>
in firefox .... tools->add-ons and search for "flash to html5" i've been
using YouTube HTML5-Video 0.7.1.1-signed
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:03:45 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
>
> > On 07/14/2015 06:51 PM, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
> >> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
> >>> I've been staying away from flash for quite sometime now ... so it's
> >>> about time
> >>>
> >>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33520935
> >>
> >> Personally, I find this annoying as hell. I use youtube. I visit
> >> sites that have embedded video. Very few of them use HTML5, and as
> >> yet, nobody has come up with an alternative that works.
> >
> > there's a couple of flash to html5 plugins for firefox and that work
> > fine (I visit youtube often and they work well) ... true enough though
> > that there are plenty of sites that haven't seen the light. now perhaps
> > mozilla's strong arming will prompt a move away from perhaps the most
> > insecure piece of software on the planet. my comments to bbc's new look
> > a few months ago included a rant about flash content ... javascript is a
> > close second.
>
> ??? Youtube supports HTML5....
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> --
> "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
> besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
Only on a very small selection of videos, last I tried it. It was extremely
buggy and about half of the videos I tried to watch simply wouldn't load.
A.D.B.
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On 07/14/2015 09:43 PM, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:03:45 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/14/2015 06:51 PM, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
>>>> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
>>>>> I've been staying away from flash for quite sometime now ... so it's
>>>>> about time
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33520935
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I find this annoying as hell. I use youtube. I visit
>>>> sites that have embedded video. Very few of them use HTML5, and as
>>>> yet, nobody has come up with an alternative that works.
>>>
>>> there's a couple of flash to html5 plugins for firefox and that work
>>> fine (I visit youtube often and they work well) ... true enough though
>>> that there are plenty of sites that haven't seen the light. now perhaps
>>> mozilla's strong arming will prompt a move away from perhaps the most
>>> insecure piece of software on the planet. my comments to bbc's new look
>>> a few months ago included a rant about flash content ... javascript is a
>>> close second.
>>
>> ??? Youtube supports HTML5....
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
>> besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
>
> Only on a very small selection of videos, last I tried it. It was extremely
> buggy and about half of the videos I tried to watch simply wouldn't load.
no such problems for me ... smoothly plays any video's that i've tried
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 01:03:45 +0200, James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom>
wrote:
> there's a couple of flash to html5 plugins for firefox and that work
> fine (I visit youtube often and they work well) ... true enough though
> that there are plenty of sites that haven't seen the light. now perhaps
> mozilla's strong arming will prompt a move away from perhaps the most
> insecure piece of software on the planet. my comments to bbc's new look
> a few months ago included a rant about flash content ... javascript is a
> close second.
>
Flash used to be a problem for SEO, I'm not sure if it still is, so I
welcome HTML5 with open arms :)
Concerning Javascript, I wonder if JS is needed for responsive webpages to
resize according to screen size. You actually need that for Cellphones and
all the different screen sizes you get now.
--
-Nekar Xenos-
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Le 15/07/2015 05:36, Nekar Xenos a écrit :
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 01:03:45 +0200, James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom>
> wrote:
>
>> there's a couple of flash to html5 plugins for firefox and that work
>> fine (I visit youtube often and they work well) ... true enough though
>> that there are plenty of sites that haven't seen the light. now
>> perhaps mozilla's strong arming will prompt a move away from perhaps
>> the most insecure piece of software on the planet. my comments to
>> bbc's new look a few months ago included a rant about flash content
>> ... javascript is a close second.
>>
>
> Flash used to be a problem for SEO, I'm not sure if it still is, so I
> welcome HTML5 with open arms :)
>
> Concerning Javascript, I wonder if JS is needed for responsive webpages
> to resize according to screen size. You actually need that for
> Cellphones and all the different screen sizes you get now.
>
screen size (layout based on screen size) can now just be done with
modern css, no need for JS for that (unless you need back compatibility
with IE... )
JS is used, IIRC, for "infinity scroll" pages... to pull the lower from
the server as you go down.
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On 14/07/2015 23:51, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
>> I've been staying away from flash for quite sometime now ... so it's
>> about time
>>
>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33520935
>
> Personally, I find this annoying as hell. I use youtube.
I thought YouTube stopped using flash years ago?
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:43:06 -0400, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
> Only on a very small selection of videos, last I tried it. It was
> extremely buggy and about half of the videos I tried to watch simply
> wouldn't load.
That could well be the browser. I've not noticed any problems, nor any
limited selection.
That said, Youtube says "many", so maybe I've just not noticed it when it
falls back to Flash.
Jim
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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Anthony D. Baye <Sha### [at] spamnomorehotmailcom> wrote:
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> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
> > I've been staying away from flash for quite sometime now ... so it's
> > about time
> >
> > http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33520935
> Personally, I find this annoying as hell.
Mozilla warning you of a serious vulnerability that hackers are actively
abusing is annoying?
That's not the word I would use...
--
- Warp
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