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This is not a political rant. As a father, and an ex-pilot, I want to
know the answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh41Wxez9PE
John
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children
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On 02/20/2015 07:54 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> This is not a political rant. As a father, and an ex-pilot, I want to
> know the answer
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh41Wxez9PE
Powerful ... unfortunately I'm not sure we'll ever learn. We crazy
humans have been hurting and killing each other quite awhile now and it
seems to be getting worse. As a young man I witnessed things that I
still have bad dreams about and as an old man I mostly try not to pay
attention to the state of things today because it brings a tear to my eyes.
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On 21/02/15 03:54, James Holsenback wrote:
> Powerful ... unfortunately I'm not sure we'll ever learn. We crazy
> humans have been hurting and killing each other quite awhile now and it
> seems to be getting worse. As a young man I witnessed things that I
> still have bad dreams about and as an old man I mostly try not to pay
> attention to the state of things today because it brings a tear to my eyes.
>
I assume you refer to the unpleasantness in Indo-China. My personal
experience was in Angola - and no, I still refuse to talk about it.
John
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Le 21/02/2015 12:38, Doctor John a écrit :
> On 21/02/15 03:54, James Holsenback wrote:
>> Powerful ... unfortunately I'm not sure we'll ever learn. We crazy
>> humans have been hurting and killing each other quite awhile now and it
>> seems to be getting worse. As a young man I witnessed things that I
>> still have bad dreams about and as an old man I mostly try not to pay
>> attention to the state of things today because it brings a tear to my eyes.
>>
>
> I assume you refer to the unpleasantness in Indo-China. My personal
> experience was in Angola - and no, I still refuse to talk about it.
>
That's how I interpret/react to a call to "Be human" by plaintiffs: No,
you do want to actually see more humanity. I prefer to be childish, or
animal.
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On 02/21/2015 06:38 AM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 21/02/15 03:54, James Holsenback wrote:
> I still refuse to talk about it.
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On 21/02/15 15:38, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 02/21/2015 06:38 AM, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 21/02/15 03:54, James Holsenback wrote:
>> I still refuse to talk about it.
>
>
Precisely
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On 02/21/2015 05:08 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 21/02/15 15:38, James Holsenback wrote:
>> On 02/21/2015 06:38 AM, Doctor John wrote:
>>> On 21/02/15 03:54, James Holsenback wrote:
>>> I still refuse to talk about it.
>>
>>
> Precisely
>
Thanks for understanding. BTW: I had no idea you were a brother from
another mother.
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On 21/02/15 22:35, James Holsenback wrote:
> Thanks for understanding. BTW: I had no idea you were a brother from
> another mother.
... as I said
John
BTW I would like to meet you. Next time I'm in the States maybe?
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On 02/21/2015 06:56 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 21/02/15 22:35, James Holsenback wrote:
>> Thanks for understanding. BTW: I had no idea you were a brother from
>> another mother.
>
> ... as I said
>
> John
>
> BTW I would like to meet you. Next time I'm in the States maybe?
>
yeah i'd probably enjoy tipping a few with ya
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On 21/02/15 11:44, Le_Forgeron wrote:
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> That's how I interpret/react to a call to "Be human" by plaintiffs: No,
> you do want to actually see more humanity. I prefer to be childish, or
> animal.
>
I'm not ignoring your reply, I just need time to think about it
John
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Le 22/02/2015 05:35, Doctor John a écrit :
> On 21/02/15 11:44, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>>
>> That's how I interpret/react to a call to "Be human" by plaintiffs: No,
>> you do want to actually see more humanity. I prefer to be childish, or
>> animal.
>>
>
> I'm not ignoring your reply, I just need time to think about it
>
> John
>
Don't bother too much, and I typoed: "you do *not* want"
Thanks for the response anyway.
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 13:38:21 +0200, Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmail com>
wrote:
> On 21/02/15 03:54, James Holsenback wrote:
>> Powerful ... unfortunately I'm not sure we'll ever learn. We crazy
>> humans have been hurting and killing each other quite awhile now and it
>> seems to be getting worse. As a young man I witnessed things that I
>> still have bad dreams about and as an old man I mostly try not to pay
>> attention to the state of things today because it brings a tear to my
>> eyes.
>>
>
> I assume you refer to the unpleasantness in Indo-China. My personal
> experience was in Angola - and no, I still refuse to talk about it.
>
> John
I have heard many horror stories from the Angola. I was called up for
military service after the Angolan war. If I was older, things might have
been a bit different for me.
--
-Nekar Xenos-
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On 22/02/15 17:54, Nekar Xenos wrote:
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> I have heard many horror stories from the Angola. I was called up for
> military service after the Angolan war. If I was older, things might
> have been a bit different for me.
>
... and this group would have been the poorer for it.
John
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On 22/02/15 09:47, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Don't bother too much, and I typoed: "you do *not* want"
> Thanks for the response anyway.
>
I'm guessing that you are younger than James, Thomas, Stephen and me.
[BTW this is not a criticism of you]
... but some of us have experienced so much sh*t ... and now words fail me.
John
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Le 22/02/2015 22:31, Doctor John a écrit :
> On 22/02/15 09:47, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>> Don't bother too much, and I typoed: "you do *not* want"
>> Thanks for the response anyway.
>>
>
> I'm guessing that you are younger than James, Thomas, Stephen and me.
> [BTW this is not a criticism of you]
No problem, but I'm not that young any more. I could have served my
military time while Thatcher was still in place. Just delayed it for a
bit of study (and my country is the other side of the channel).
Previously, in centuries rather in years, crusade-fighters would turn to
monastery and become monks. I believe a part of the cause was the same
lack of words.
A bit of Shakespeare (Macbeth): "it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
Be kind to your neighbours, and do not try to rule further than your
doorstep.
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 23:02:54 +0200, Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom>
wrote:
> On 22/02/15 17:54, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>>
>> I have heard many horror stories from the Angola. I was called up for
>> military service after the Angolan war. If I was older, things might
>> have been a bit different for me.
>>
>
> ... and this group would have been the poorer for it.
>
> John
Thank you.
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