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From: andrel
Subject: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 05:15:16
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Anyone know what happened to our mascot? only 1 post in the last 20 days 
and that was more than a week ago.




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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 05:25:01
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On 26/09/2014 10:14, andrel wrote:
> Anyone know what happened to our mascot? only 1 post in the last 20 days
> and that was more than a week ago.
>

Is this not about the time when he tries to break his legs sliding down 
a mountain on two sticks?


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 06:09:54
Message: <54253B5D.6050404@gmail.com>
On 26-9-2014 11:25, Stephen wrote:
> On 26/09/2014 10:14, andrel wrote:
>> Anyone know what happened to our mascot? only 1 post in the last 20 days
>> and that was more than a week ago.
>>
>
> Is this not about the time when he tries to break his legs sliding down
> a mountain on two sticks?
>
>
no it isn't, it is summer (for a certain amount of 'summer'). That is 
why I am worried he might have a serious case of real life. Unless he 
went to queenstown, australia this time, off course.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 08:07:43
Message: <5425570f$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/09/2014 11:09, andrel wrote:

>>
> no it isn't, it is summer (for a certain amount of 'summer'). That is
> why I am worried he might have a serious case of real life. Unless he
> went to queenstown, australia this time, off course.
>
>

You almost had me biting there. ;-)
You are right, it is too early.

He is probably playing with his Bash scripts.


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 08:18:51
Message: <542559ab$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2014-09-26 08:07, Stephen a écrit :
> On 26/09/2014 11:09, andrel wrote:
>
>>>
>> no it isn't, it is summer (for a certain amount of 'summer'). That is
>> why I am worried he might have a serious case of real life. Unless he
>> went to queenstown, australia this time, off course.
>>
>>
>
> You almost had me biting there. ;-)
> You are right, it is too early.
>
> He is probably playing with his Bash scripts.
>
>
Lots of people have to play with Bash this week.  Andy's probably not 
the only one.

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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 10:41:30
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On 26/09/14 13:18, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Lots of people have to play with Bash this week.  Andy's probably not
> the only one.
> 

Indeed, he is not. The patching and recompiling is the smallest part of
the job though. It's the checking of the system afterwards that's taking
the time.

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 12:09:15
Message: <54258fab$1@news.povray.org>
Am 26.09.2014 16:41, schrieb Doctor John:
> On 26/09/14 13:18, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> Lots of people have to play with Bash this week.  Andy's probably not
>> the only one.
>>
>
> Indeed, he is not. The patching and recompiling is the smallest part of
> the job though. It's the checking of the system afterwards that's taking
> the time.

Have a happy weekend, Doc! :-P

I hope you get good money out of these days.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 12:34:26
Message: <54259592$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/09/14 17:09, clipka wrote:
> 
> Have a happy weekend, Doc! :-P
> 
> I hope you get good money out of these days.
> 

So do I. I'm meeting Stephen for another PovCon London on Tuesday; I'll
need a bit of spare cash.

John
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 26 Sep 2014 12:58:26
Message: <54259b32$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/09/2014 17:34, Doctor John wrote:
> On 26/09/14 17:09, clipka wrote:
>>
>> Have a happy weekend, Doc! :-P
>>
>> I hope you get good money out of these days.
>>
>
> So do I. I'm meeting Stephen for another PovCon London on Tuesday; I'll
> need a bit of spare cash.
>

Great! I won't then. :-D


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 09:33:42
Message: <54280e36$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/09/2014 10:14 AM, andrel wrote:
> Anyone know what happened to our mascot? only 1 post in the last 20 days
> and that was more than a week ago.

Interesting. I was beginning to wonder if anybody even reads this forum 
any more...

(Anyone remember when this forum was so busy that it was logistically 
difficult to actually *read* all the traffic faster than it's being posted?)

I honestly didn't think anybody actually takes any notice of me.



If anyone is counting, you may have realised that it is now 1 year since 
I got my new flat. A few days ago I was just contemplating that this is 
arguably one of the best decisions of my entire life - and feeling quite 
positive about things.

The last few days, for a combination of reasons, I've been feeling very 
depressed. I just can't seem to snap out of it. I haven't felt like this 
for a long time. Hopefully it'll go away again soon...


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 11:24:57
Message: <54282849$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/14 14:33, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> (Anyone remember when this forum was so busy that it was logistically
> difficult to actually *read* all the traffic faster than it's being
> posted?)
> 

Indeed I do. I seem to remember a list of posting statistics that placed
you in #1 and me in #2. But that was many years ago

> I honestly didn't think anybody actually takes any notice of me.
> 

What? A day without you is like a day with no sunrise.

> The last few days, for a combination of reasons, I've been feeling very
> depressed. I just can't seem to snap out of it. I haven't felt like this
> for a long time. Hopefully it'll go away again soon...

Just keep posting here. Even if we can't cure your depression, our
insanity might give you the occasional cause to smile

John
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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 13:50:51
Message: <54284a7b$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/2014 04:24 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> Just keep posting here. Even if we can't cure your depression, our
> insanity might give you the occasional cause to smile

What, because I can tell myself "at least I'm not as crazy as these 
guys"? :-P


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 14:21:45
Message: <542851b9@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/14 18:50, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> 
> What, because I can tell myself "at least I'm not as crazy as these
> guys"? :-P

That's certainly one way of putting it, but I was thinking more of
distracting your mind from whatever it is that seems to have caught it
itself in an infinite loop.

BTW apropos Stephen's reply: when are you next going to slide on snow
with sticks attached to your feet?

John
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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 14:40:06
Message: <54285606@news.povray.org>
>> What, because I can tell myself "at least I'm not as crazy as these
>> guys"? :-P
>
> That's certainly one way of putting it, but I was thinking more of
> distracting your mind from whatever it is that seems to have caught it
> itself in an infinite loop.

I think I'll need a bigger distraction. Maybe back when we were getting 
30+ messages per hour...

> BTW apropos Stephen's reply: when are you next going to slide on snow
> with sticks attached to your feet?

Given that I am now a home-owner, I presume I will never again be able 
to afford such a thing.



I'm not done travelling though. Let me tell you a story: The other 
night, at about 1am, I got a text message. So I pick up my phone, and 
I'm like "if this is PPI, I'm not gonna be happy!" It turns out it was 
my little sister. "Hi Andrew, hope you're well, oh by the way, I just 
got engaged." DAMN! I didn't even know my sister HAD a boyfriend until 
quite recently... and now she's going to MARRY the guy! O_O

I thought my sister would never marry. Not that she's a player - far 
from it - just that she's very fussy about boys. Every boy she's ever 
been with, she's eventually said "you know what? You're bugging me. Get 
lost!" She's had several multi-year relationships, but they all ended. 
This one, apparently, is for realz.

So yeah. This is going to mean some big changes. First, the guy she's 
marrying lives in America. So she's moving to America, and I'll probably 
never see her again. Second, his entire family is Greek Orthodox, so 
she's in training for that. (I really hope this doesn't mean she turns 
into one of those crazy religious fundamentalists...)

Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where 
that is yet.)

On the one hand, I really don't want to go to America. I don't went to 
spend thousands of pounds to sit on a million-hour flight to end up in a 
hostile nation and spent two weeks jet-lagged.

On the other hand, IT'S MY SISTER'S WEDDING! She's my only sister, it's 
the single most important day of her entire life... what sort of 
arsehole would I be if I'm not there?

So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified. But 
the wedding doesn't happen for ages, so no need to panic just yet. (The 
wedding is approximately 1 year from now.) Plenty of time to worry about 
it later.

So there's that.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 14:56:24
Message: <542859d8$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/14 19:40, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> 
> Given that I am now a home-owner, I presume I will never again be able
> to afford such a thing.
> 

To the contrary, now you're a home-owner your credit rating has gone
through the roof.

<snip>

> 
> So yeah. This is going to mean some big changes. First, the guy she's
> marrying lives in America. So she's moving to America, and I'll probably
> never see her again. Second, his entire family is Greek Orthodox, so
> she's in training for that. (I really hope this doesn't mean she turns
> into one of those crazy religious fundamentalists...)
> 

Nah! The worst that could happen is that she'll insist on cooking
Kleftiko and giving you Baklava at every opportunity.

> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
> that is yet.)

East Coast. So closer than you think

<another snip>

> On the other hand, IT'S MY SISTER'S WEDDING! She's my only sister, it's
> the single most important day of her entire life... what sort of
> arsehole would I be if I'm not there?

You answer your own question right there.

> So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified. But
> the wedding doesn't happen for ages, so no need to panic just yet. (The
> wedding is approximately 1 year from now.) Plenty of time to worry about
> it later.
> 
> So there's that.

More practically, think about a wedding present ;-)

Joh
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 15:13:14
Message: <54285dca$1@news.povray.org>
Oops! Forgot to add Congratulations, felicitations etc etc to your
sister from the whole group

[sounds of champagne corks popping]

John
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 15:34:28
Message: <542862c4@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/2014 18:50, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 28/09/2014 04:24 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> Just keep posting here. Even if we can't cure your depression, our
>> insanity might give you the occasional cause to smile
>
> What, because I can tell myself "at least I'm not as crazy as these
> guys"? :-P

You got that wrong Andrew. It is the other way around. :-P

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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 15:46:54
Message: <542865ae$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/14 20:34, Stephen wrote:
> On 28/09/2014 18:50, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> On 28/09/2014 04:24 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>>> Just keep posting here. Even if we can't cure your depression, our
>>> insanity might give you the occasional cause to smile
>>
>> What, because I can tell myself "at least I'm not as crazy as these
>> guys"? :-P
> 
> You got that wrong Andrew. It is the other way around. :-P
> 

Ignore him, Andrew, He's just discovered online gaming and bought a bit
of serious kit to indulge himself with.

John
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 16:08:30
Message: <54286abe$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/2014 19:40, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
> that is yet.)
>

A few miles before Skegness. ;-)

> On the one hand, I really don't want to go to America. I don't went to
> spend thousands of pounds to sit on a million-hour flight to end up in a
> hostile nation and spent two weeks jet-lagged.
>
If you can trust your sister to go ahead with it. ;-)
Booking in advance would cost between £600 & £700. The flight time is 
quite long about 9 hours with one change. As for the jet lag, there are 
ways around that.
A couple of years ago I was working in New Mexico, just to the left of 
Texas. The journey time was 25 hours including layovers in Huston or 
Dallas. A little white pill from my doctor kept me awake for about 36 
hours after I got up and I was none of the worse for it. I went to bed 
night time US time and woke up daytime. Bingo! what is the problem?


> On the other hand, IT'S MY SISTER'S WEDDING! She's my only sister, it's
> the single most important day of her entire life... what sort of
> arsehole would I be if I'm not there?
>

I think that you and Dr J have said it all.
You have to go. Make the best of it. Take tea as a present I believe 
they lost most of theirs in the harbour. It is a wonderful opportunity. 
For your Brother-in-lay to show you off.


> So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified.

So what! I have been terrified every time I've been on a plane for the 
last twenty years. All you need to do is sit there and not make a fool 
of yourself. You're not being asked to fly it.
Sit back, don't look out of the window and be bored. Bored is good btw.

> But the wedding doesn't happen for ages, so no need to panic just yet. (The
> wedding is approximately 1 year from now.) Plenty of time to worry about
> it later.

:-)

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 16:11:12
Message: <54286b60$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/2014 20:46, Doctor John wrote:
> On 28/09/14 20:34, Stephen wrote:
>> On 28/09/2014 18:50, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> On 28/09/2014 04:24 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>>>> Just keep posting here. Even if we can't cure your depression, our
>>>> insanity might give you the occasional cause to smile
>>>
>>> What, because I can tell myself "at least I'm not as crazy as these
>>> guys"? :-P
>>
>> You got that wrong Andrew. It is the other way around. :-P
>>
>
> Ignore him, Andrew, He's just discovered online gaming and bought a bit
> of serious kit to indulge himself with.
>

Oh! yesss.

Forgot to say that the good doctor and I are going for drinkie poos, 
Tuesday. You are more than welcome. :-D


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     Stephen


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 16:23:00
Message: <54286e24$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/14 21:11, Stephen wrote:
> 
> Forgot to say that the good doctor and I are going for drinkie poos,
> Tuesday. You are more than welcome. :-D
> 

Indeed you are. ...and anyone else who happens to be in the area then.

John
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From: andrel
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 16:31:15
Message: <54287007.1080305@gmail.com>
On 28-9-2014 20:56, Doctor John wrote:
> On 28/09/14 19:40, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>> that is yet.)
>
> East Coast. So closer than you think

At some point in time google had a way to compute the travel by foot 
from europe to the US. That included some swimming and the point where 
you landed in the US was boston.

And also congratulate your sister from me.

(I once attended a Dutch-Sikh wedding in the US. These multicultural 
wedding can be interesting.)


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 16:45:11
Message: <54287357$1@news.povray.org>
>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>> that is yet.)
>
> A few miles before Skegness. ;-)

Damn...

> Booking in advance would cost between £600 & £700. The flight time is
> quite long about 9 hours with one change. As for the jet lag, there are
> ways around that.
> A couple of years ago I was working in New Mexico, just to the left of
> Texas. The journey time was 25 hours including layovers in Huston or
> Dallas. A little white pill from my doctor kept me awake for about 36
> hours after I got up and I was none of the worse for it. I went to bed
> night time US time and woke up daytime. Bingo! what is the problem?

Staying awake isn't the problem - it's trying to fall asleep. Hell, I 
can't sleep NOW, and I haven't been anywhere yet!

>> So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified.
>
> So what! I have been terrified every time I've been on a plane for the
> last twenty years. All you need to do is sit there and not make a fool
> of yourself. You're not being asked to fly it.
> Sit back, don't look out of the window and be bored. Bored is good btw.

The plane doesn't worry me. But at the last family wedding, I managed to 
tell my cousin's new wife that her dress looks like some curtains we 
used to have...

Let's just hope I can manage to NOT SPEAK for a few hours, eh? :-S


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 16:47:17
Message: <542873d5$1@news.povray.org>
>> Given that I am now a home-owner, I presume I will never again be able
>> to afford such a thing.
>
> To the contrary, now you're a home-owner your credit rating has gone
> through the roof.

1. If you need to use credit, you have already lost.

2. Surely the fact that I now have large, immovable debts pressing down 
on me should vastly REDUCE my ability to pay back any additional loans?

>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>> that is yet.)
>
> East Coast. So closer than you think

So... only the width of the entire Atlantic Ocean? :-P


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 16:49:30
Message: <5428745a$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/2014 09:31 PM, andrel wrote:
> (I once attended a Dutch-Sikh wedding in the US. These multicultural
> wedding can be interesting.)

"Interesting" is one way of putting it. Apparently the groom has invited 
over 400 people. My sister has so far invited about 20 people.

I've only actually met my new brother-in-law once. He only spoke once or 
twice during the entire day. I have no idea what his personality is. 
(Then again, I'm not marrying him...)


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 17:13:58
Message: <54287a16$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/14 21:47, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> 
> 2. Surely the fact that I now have large, immovable debts pressing down
> on me should vastly REDUCE my ability to pay back any additional loans?
> 

That seems not to be the way the way the W^HBankers see it

>>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>>> that is yet.)
>>
>> East Coast. So closer than you think
> 
> So... only the width of the entire Atlantic Ocean? :-P

it's only a couple of inches on my map ;-)

We all know that you will attend the ceremony whatever it costs you.

John
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 19:20:54
Message: <542897d6$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/2014 21:47, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Given that I am now a home-owner, I presume I will never again be able
>>> to afford such a thing.
>>
>> To the contrary, now you're a home-owner your credit rating has gone
>> through the roof.
>
> 1. If you need to use credit, you have already lost.
>

How 1950's

> 2. Surely the fact that I now have large, immovable debts pressing down
> on me should vastly REDUCE my ability to pay back any additional loans?
>

You would think so. But you are showing that you can pay your mortgage 
so your rating is high. I on the other hand paid all my credit off when 
I got made redundant, 20 years ago. My credit rating is very low.
For some people having a high rating is bad. I don't think you would 
have to worry too much.

>>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>>> that is yet.)
>>
>> East Coast. So closer than you think
>
> So... only the width of the entire Atlantic Ocean? :-P

That's if they flew in a straight l Oops! Great Circle. If you are lucky 
Iceland is where you would change planes.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 20:11:12
Message: <5428a3a0$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/2014 21:45, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>>> that is yet.)
>>
>> A few miles before Skegness. ;-)
>
> Damn...
>

Yes it was our town first. ;-)



> Staying awake isn't the problem - it's trying to fall asleep. Hell, I
> can't sleep NOW, and I haven't been anywhere yet!
>

Staying awake for 24 hours sometimes helps you get to sleep.


>>> So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified.
>>
>> So what! I have been terrified every time I've been on a plane for the
>> last twenty years. All you need to do is sit there and not make a fool
>> of yourself. You're not being asked to fly it.
>> Sit back, don't look out of the window and be bored. Bored is good btw.
>
> The plane doesn't worry me. But at the last family wedding, I managed to
> tell my cousin's new wife that her dress looks like some curtains we
> used to have...
>

Okay fair point. Any chance that your sister will run off with Mrs 
Robinson, so it is called off? ;-)


> Let's just hope I can manage to NOT SPEAK for a few hours, eh? :-S

Put on a West Country accent. They will never understnd wht you are 
saying but think you cute.

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     Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 28 Sep 2014 20:19:22
Message: <5428a58a$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.09.2014 20:40, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:

> So yeah. This is going to mean some big changes. First, the guy she's
> marrying lives in America. So she's moving to America, and I'll probably
> never see her again. Second, his entire family is Greek Orthodox, so
> she's in training for that. (I really hope this doesn't mean she turns
> into one of those crazy religious fundamentalists...)

Haven't heard of any Greek Orthodox people wrapping TNT around their 
bellies or publicly burning Kur-ans recently, if that's what you're 
worrying about. AFAIK they're quite into sticking to their rituals, 
rather than trying to change the world.

> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
> that is yet.)

East coast, New England. One of the cradles of that crazy religious 
fundamentalism, but aside from the Halloween season the locals are not 
into witch hunts anymore (been there, seen it).

> On the one hand, I really don't want to go to America. I don't went to
> spend thousands of pounds to sit on a million-hour flight to end up in a
> hostile nation and spent two weeks jet-lagged.

The leg over to America is usually rather easy. It's the leg back 
that'll give you the lags.

Also, there are probably direct flights to Boston.

As I mentioned already, the people in the Boston area are quite 
civilized these days. After all, they've had the most time to settle in 
and regain some of their sanity after having been crammed in a tiny boat 
for over two months without seeing any dry land (not to mention living 
on that same boat for an additional four more months anchored at Cape 
Cod Bay during the winter), which certainly must have been a 
traumatizing experience.

Also, the open hostilities between the Bostoners and the British Empire 
are said to have mostly ceased by now. They even paid for the tea a few 
years back.

> On the other hand, IT'S MY SISTER'S WEDDING! She's my only sister, it's
> the single most important day of her entire life... what sort of
> arsehole would I be if I'm not there?
>
> So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified. But
> the wedding doesn't happen for ages, so no need to panic just yet. (The
> wedding is approximately 1 year from now.) Plenty of time to worry about
> it later.

... or plenty of time to rehearse panicking. (My advice: Don't ;-))


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From: scott
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 29 Sep 2014 04:40:35
Message: <54291b03@news.povray.org>
>> Staying awake isn't the problem - it's trying to fall asleep. Hell, I
>> can't sleep NOW, and I haven't been anywhere yet!
>>
>
> Staying awake for 24 hours sometimes helps you get to sleep.

When I used to go to Japan I found that sleeping for 2-3 hours late 
afternoon after travelling was the best way to avoid any jet lag. I 
would then get up around 6pm, go and have dinner, then go to bed and 
sleep pretty normally after that. But anyway, Andy is going on 
*holiday*, so who cares if you are a bit tired or can't sleep, it's not 
like you're going to be sat in a boring meeting or getting up at 7am !!!


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 29 Sep 2014 05:40:16
Message: <542928F0.6010602@gmail.com>
On 29-9-2014 10:40, scott wrote:
>>> Staying awake isn't the problem - it's trying to fall asleep. Hell, I
>>> can't sleep NOW, and I haven't been anywhere yet!
>>>
>>
>> Staying awake for 24 hours sometimes helps you get to sleep.
>
> When I used to go to Japan I found that sleeping for 2-3 hours late
> afternoon after travelling was the best way to avoid any jet lag. I
> would then get up around 6pm, go and have dinner, then go to bed and
> sleep pretty normally after that. But anyway, Andy is going on
> *holiday*, so who cares if you are a bit tired or can't sleep, it's not
> like you're going to be sat in a boring meeting or getting up at 7am !!!
>

I think you missed the point that the meetings are in fact the problem. 
Not because they are boring, but because they are personal.
I think Andy would not have a problem sleeping through a meeting. 
Shaking hands with the father in law of your sister is quite another 
challenge. No amount of alcohol will ease that. On the contrary.

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From: scott
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 29 Sep 2014 06:02:52
Message: <54292e4c$1@news.povray.org>
> Shaking hands with the father in law of your sister is quite another
> challenge. No amount of alcohol will ease that. On the contrary.

Shaking hands with such a person would be more than enough to keep me 
alert and awake, no matter how little sleep I'd had. In fact any form of 
social interaction (plus beer) seems to keep me awake.

On the contrary watching slide after slide on some boring subject whilst 
sat down in a warm room always has me struggling to keep my eyes open 
and my mouth closed :-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 29 Sep 2014 06:45:00
Message: <5429382c$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/09/2014 11:02, scott wrote:
>> Shaking hands with the father in law of your sister is quite another
>> challenge. No amount of alcohol will ease that. On the contrary.
>
> Shaking hands with such a person would be more than enough to keep me
> alert and awake, no matter how little sleep I'd had. In fact any form of
> social interaction (plus beer) seems to keep me awake.
>

I have a switch in my head that when it is thrown I have about 15 
minutes to get comfortable.

> On the contrary watching slide after slide on some boring subject whilst
> sat down in a warm room always has me struggling to keep my eyes open
> and my mouth closed :-)
>

Death by powerpoint. :-)

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     Stephen


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 12 Oct 2014 07:20:01
Message: <543a63e1$1@news.povray.org>
> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
> that is yet.)

Ha!

...yeah, it turns out it's actually Baltimore, not Boston.

I thought Baltimore was the west coast? Or is that Oregon? I get the two 
mixed up...


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 12 Oct 2014 11:41:44
Message: <543aa138@news.povray.org>
Am 12.10.2014 13:20, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:
>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>> that is yet.)
>
> Ha!
>
> ...yeah, it turns out it's actually Baltimore, not Boston.
>
> I thought Baltimore was the west coast? Or is that Oregon? I get the two
> mixed up...

Baltimore's at the east coast, almost exactly the same distance from New 
York as Boston, but in almost exaxtly the opposite direction. At least 
that's where Google Maps puts it.

Oregon is indeed at the west coast (remember the "Oregon Trail" computer 
game?)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 12 Oct 2014 12:44:16
Message: <543aafe0$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/10/2014 16:41, clipka wrote:
> (remember the "Oregon Trail" computer game?)

It is sad that we have come to this. It is an indictment on the younger 
generations.

Remember the Alamo, the car rental firm? ;-)

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 12 Oct 2014 22:50:27
Message: <543b3df3$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:20:12 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>> that is yet.)
> 
> Ha!
> 
> ...yeah, it turns out it's actually Baltimore, not Boston.
> 
> I thought Baltimore was the west coast? Or is that Oregon? I get the two
> mixed up...

Baltimore is a city in Maryland.  Oregon is a state, just south of 
Washington (where I now live) on the Pacific coast.

Jim

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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 13 Oct 2014 03:25:02
Message: <543b7e4e$1@news.povray.org>
On 12-10-2014 18:44, Stephen wrote:
> On 12/10/2014 16:41, clipka wrote:
>> (remember the "Oregon Trail" computer game?)
>
> It is sad that we have come to this. It is an indictment on the younger
> generations.
>
> Remember the Alamo, the car rental firm? ;-)
>

What do they know? I crossed the Beresina and lived to tell about it.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 13 Oct 2014 04:57:54
Message: <543b9412@news.povray.org>
On 13/10/2014 08:25, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 12-10-2014 18:44, Stephen wrote:
>> On 12/10/2014 16:41, clipka wrote:
>>> (remember the "Oregon Trail" computer game?)
>>
>> It is sad that we have come to this. It is an indictment on the younger
>> generations.
>>
>> Remember the Alamo, the car rental firm? ;-)
>>
>
> What do they know? I crossed the Beresina and lived to tell about it.
>

And you were no spring chicken, then. ;-)
I am glad you got away. :-)

"He who fights and runs away. Lives to flee another day."


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 13 Oct 2014 07:07:34
Message: <543bb276$1@news.povray.org>
On 13-10-2014 10:57, Stephen wrote:
> On 13/10/2014 08:25, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 12-10-2014 18:44, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2014 16:41, clipka wrote:
>>>> (remember the "Oregon Trail" computer game?)
>>>
>>> It is sad that we have come to this. It is an indictment on the younger
>>> generations.
>>>
>>> Remember the Alamo, the car rental firm? ;-)
>>>
>>
>> What do they know? I crossed the Beresina and lived to tell about it.
>>
>
> And you were no spring chicken, then. ;-)
> I am glad you got away. :-)
>
> "He who fights and runs away. Lives to flee another day."
>
>
...until the grim reaper... ;-)

Thomas


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 08:03:04
Message: <543d10f8$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2014-10-12 22:50, Jim Henderson a écrit :
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:20:12 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
>>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>>> that is yet.)
>>
>> Ha!
>>
>> ...yeah, it turns out it's actually Baltimore, not Boston.
>>
>> I thought Baltimore was the west coast? Or is that Oregon? I get the two
>> mixed up...
>
> Baltimore is a city in Maryland.  Oregon is a state, just south of
> Washington (where I now live) on the Pacific coast.
>
> Jim
>

Baltimore is a city just south of Washington (the city).
Oregon is a state just south of Washington (the state).

Both are on opposite sides of the country.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 08:34:27
Message: <543d1853$1@news.povray.org>
On 14/10/14 13:03, Francois Labreque wrote:
> 
> Baltimore is a city just south of Washington (the city).
> Oregon is a state just south of Washington (the state).
> 
> Both are on opposite sides of the country.
> 
> 

Washington is also a small town just south of Newcastle-upon-Tyne and
west of Sunderland

John
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From: andrel
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 09:11:49
Message: <543D2100.9010408@gmail.com>
On 14-10-2014 14:34, Doctor John wrote:
> On 14/10/14 13:03, Francois Labreque wrote:
>>
>> Baltimore is a city just south of Washington (the city).
>> Oregon is a state just south of Washington (the state).
>>
>> Both are on opposite sides of the country.
>>
>>
>
> Washington is also a small town just south of Newcastle-upon-Tyne and
> west of Sunderland

which Sunderland are we talking about here?


-- 
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 09:20:59
Message: <543d233b$1@news.povray.org>
On 14/10/14 14:11, andrel wrote:
> On 14-10-2014 14:34, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 14/10/14 13:03, Francois Labreque wrote:
>>>
>>> Baltimore is a city just south of Washington (the city).
>>> Oregon is a state just south of Washington (the state).
>>>
>>> Both are on opposite sides of the country.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Washington is also a small town just south of Newcastle-upon-Tyne and
>> west of Sunderland
> 
> which Sunderland are we talking about here?
> 
> 

This one:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9434119,-1.5307498,11z?hl=en

John
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You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 09:37:30
Message: <543d271a$1@news.povray.org>
On 14/10/2014 14:11, andrel wrote:
>
> which Sunderland are we talking about here?

The Sunderland that is in the northern part of England.

Obvious, I would have thought. ;-)

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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 10:20:47
Message: <543d313f$1@news.povray.org>
On 14-10-2014 15:37, Stephen wrote:
> On 14/10/2014 14:11, andrel wrote:
>>
>> which Sunderland are we talking about here?
>
> The Sunderland that is in the northern part of England.
>
> Obvious, I would have thought. ;-)
>
Not really. The UK ones are /all/ in the northern part of England ;-)

[ducks and runs]

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 11:42:01
Message: <543d4449$1@news.povray.org>
On 14/10/2014 15:20, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 14-10-2014 15:37, Stephen wrote:
>> On 14/10/2014 14:11, andrel wrote:
>>>
>>> which Sunderland are we talking about here?
>>
>> The Sunderland that is in the northern part of England.
>>
>> Obvious, I would have thought. ;-)
>>
> Not really. The UK ones are /all/ in the northern part of England ;-)
>
> [ducks and runs]
>

And trips up. ;-)
Sutherland is in the north of Scotland. :-P


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 20:22:59
Message: <543dbe63$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:03:14 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:

> Le 2014-10-12 22:50, Jim Henderson a écrit :
>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:20:12 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>
>>>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>>>> that is yet.)
>>>
>>> Ha!
>>>
>>> ...yeah, it turns out it's actually Baltimore, not Boston.
>>>
>>> I thought Baltimore was the west coast? Or is that Oregon? I get the
>>> two mixed up...
>>
>> Baltimore is a city in Maryland.  Oregon is a state, just south of
>> Washington (where I now live) on the Pacific coast.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
> Baltimore is a city just south of Washington (the city).
> Oregon is a state just south of Washington (the state).
> 
> Both are on opposite sides of the country.


That's an interesting way to look at it. :)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: missing flower
Date: 14 Oct 2014 20:23:42
Message: <543dbe8e$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:11:28 +0200, andrel wrote:

> On 14-10-2014 14:34, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 14/10/14 13:03, Francois Labreque wrote:
>>>
>>> Baltimore is a city just south of Washington (the city).
>>> Oregon is a state just south of Washington (the state).
>>>
>>> Both are on opposite sides of the country.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Washington is also a small town just south of Newcastle-upon-Tyne and
>> west of Sunderland
> 
> which Sunderland are we talking about here?

The one east of Washington. ;)

Jim



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