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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 15 Sep 2014 17:42:14
Message: <54175d36$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 12:45:41 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 14/09/2014 03:18, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:41:56 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That's fine by me. I'm taking time off ATM.
>>> I might need consoling after the 19th.
>>
>> Hope everything's OK....
>>
>>
> It won't be for half the country, either way.
> 
> Indyref.

Ah, right, I somehow wasn't even thinking about that. ;)

>>> Stephen raising his bottle of Grouse to all and sundry. ;-)
>>
>> Jim raising his bottle as well - currently just water with lemon, at
>> least until the effects of the medication I started last week are known
>> (for hypertension).
>>
>>
> Not too high, I hope.

Actually, quite high.  But it's a lot better now, and the meds are 
helping.

Jim

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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 14:17:43
Message: <541c7347$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:38:25 -0400, Jim Henderson wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:35:49 +0100, Doctor John wrote:
> 
>> On 13/09/14 04:12, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> 
>>> Clever.  I see that you're starting a game of that game that we love
>>> so much, that game that has a long history of being played and loved
>>> by so many people around the world. ;)
>>> 
>>> Vauxhall Bridge Road (towards Trafalgar Square)
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> 
>> On the principle that you'd be insane to travel to Victoria (serious
>> disruptions due to ongoing reconstruction of the station), I assume
>> you'll have to turn off down Regency Street. Therefore: Oxford Circus
> 
> That makes sense.  After all, during the reconstruction, it's kinda
> difficult to get around anyways, and things may not be on time.
> 
> Which reminds me that I have a vague recollection of construction at
> Leicester Square when we were there a decade ago, so that's where I want
> to move to, just to see how it turned out.

*buzz*  Hesitation!

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 15:12:38
Message: <541c8026@news.povray.org>
On 19/09/2014 19:17, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:38:25 -0400, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:35:49 +0100, Doctor John wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/09/14 04:12, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Clever.  I see that you're starting a game of that game that we love
>>>> so much, that game that has a long history of being played and loved
>>>> by so many people around the world. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Vauxhall Bridge Road (towards Trafalgar Square)
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>> On the principle that you'd be insane to travel to Victoria (serious
>>> disruptions due to ongoing reconstruction of the station), I assume
>>> you'll have to turn off down Regency Street. Therefore: Oxford Circus
>>
>> That makes sense.  After all, during the reconstruction, it's kinda
>> difficult to get around anyways, and things may not be on time.
>>
>> Which reminds me that I have a vague recollection of construction at
>> Leicester Square when we were there a decade ago, so that's where I want
>> to move to, just to see how it turned out.
>
> *buzz*  Hesitation!
>
Sorry James, I know that you are a veteran of this game that is played 
not only here but in many planets throughout the Galaxy. But under the 
S.F. pretentious goal bird rules. The almost good doctor is allowed time 
to recover from the nasty surprise that Sven delivered. And do have 
respect for this aged veteran of many, many years.

:-P


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 16:06:10
Message: <541c8cb2@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:12:35 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> Sorry James, I know that you are a veteran of this game that is played
> not only here but in many planets throughout the Galaxy. But under the
> S.F. pretentious goal bird rules. The almost good doctor is allowed time
> to recover from the nasty surprise that Sven delivered. And do have
> respect for this aged veteran of many, many years.
> 
> :-P

But Stephen - as a long-standing veteran of the game with many years 
experience playing it, even after a day stuck in bed due to illness, I 
had fully expected the good Doctor John to have returned and elucidated 
where his next move would be.  With all due respect to the other veterans 
of the game, what with the many decades of experience between the entire 
group of us, even a surprise from Sven might have caused such an 
experienced player to have moved a little more quickly on to the next 
station, even if it was across the diagonal.

:P



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 16:44:00
Message: <541c9590$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/09/14 21:06, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
> But Stephen - as a long-standing veteran of the game with many years 
> experience playing it, even after a day stuck in bed due to illness, I 
> had fully expected the good Doctor John to have returned and elucidated 
> where his next move would be.  With all due respect to the other veterans 
> of the game, what with the many decades of experience between the entire 
> group of us, even a surprise from Sven might have caused such an 
> experienced player to have moved a little more quickly on to the next 
> station, even if it was across the diagonal.
> 

Sorry, RL intervened. So, keeping it topical:
Scotland Yard (bus stop on Whitehall - RMT and ASLEF are on strike)
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You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 16:52:36
Message: <541c9794$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/09/2014 21:06, Jim Henderson wrote:
> But Stephen - as a long-standing veteran of the game with many years
> experience playing it, even after a day stuck in bed due to illness, I
> had fully expected the good Doctor John to have returned and elucidated
> where his next move would be.  With all due respect to the other veterans
> of the game, what with the many decades of experience between the entire
> group of us, even a surprise from Sven might have caused such an
> experienced player to have moved a little more quickly on to the next
> station, even if it was across the diagonal.

Samantha, who is sitting on my right hand, is near fainting in 
anticipation of a move. And we must take her points into account as she 
is abreast of the score.
Hmm!
The play is reversed and the goodish doctor forfeits his turn as one bad 
turn deserves another. Throw the dice again.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 16:53:56
Message: <541c97e4$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/09/2014 21:52, Stephen wrote:
> The play is reversed and the goodish doctor forfeits his turn as one bad
> turn deserves another. Throw the dice again.

Our scorer forgives and James is in Huff.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 17:59:14
Message: <541ca732$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 21:53:54 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 19/09/2014 21:52, Stephen wrote:
>> The play is reversed and the goodish doctor forfeits his turn as one
>> bad turn deserves another. Throw the dice again.
> 
> Our scorer forgives and James is in Huff.

Foo.

And I hope the RL stuff isn't too serious, John.

I guess that means it's your go again, Stephen. :)

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 18:03:58
Message: <541ca84e$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/09/14 21:53, Stephen wrote:
> On 19/09/2014 21:52, Stephen wrote:
>> The play is reversed and the goodish doctor forfeits his turn as one bad
>> turn deserves another. Throw the dice again.
> 
> Our scorer forgives and James is in Huff.
> 

I take advantage of James's temporary indisposition and head for:
Goodge Street.

John
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 19 Sep 2014 18:12:31
Message: <541caa4f$1@news.povray.org>
On 19/09/14 22:59, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
> And I hope the RL stuff isn't too serious, John.
> 

No. Just work-related sh*t. Had to rewrite a complete Justification of
Resources before the dead-line (today at midday).
Left work early and took the Feegle to the park with his best friend
Ellie this afternoon.

John
-- 
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 20 Sep 2014 08:47:22
Message: <541d775a$1@news.povray.org>
OK conformist, you wouldn't want to burst your own perfectly controlled 
bubble you live in, right?


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 20 Sep 2014 08:55:00
Message: <541d7924@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> Never trust a man who wants power.

Actually everyone wants it, to have more "control" over their lives, the 
Monetary System only gives you as much control as the money you have, 
and since nobody gives away money in the amounts we'd want to, we all 
want more money/power. So it's not the power but the use of it, and it 
should be taken as it is, a tool, like a hammer, you build something 
with it and then you live it the fuck alone.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 20 Sep 2014 09:09:37
Message: <541d7c91$1@news.povray.org>
On 20/09/2014 13:54, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> Never trust a man who wants power.
>
> Actually everyone wants it, to have more "control" over their lives, the
> Monetary System only gives you as much control as the money you have,
> and since nobody gives away money in the amounts we'd want to, we all
> want more money/power. So it's not the power but the use of it, and it
> should be taken as it is, a tool, like a hammer, you build something
> with it and then you live it the fuck alone.

I meant power over others. I thought that was implicit.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 20 Sep 2014 15:06:17
Message: <541dd029$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:12:16 +0100, Doctor John wrote:

> On 19/09/14 22:59, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> 
>> And I hope the RL stuff isn't too serious, John.
>> 
>> 
> No. Just work-related sh*t. Had to rewrite a complete Justification of
> Resources before the dead-line (today at midday).

Ah, OK - I know that feeling. :)

> Left work early and took the Feegle to the park with his best friend
> Ellie this afternoon.

Fun!

Jim





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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 20 Sep 2014 17:41:23
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On 20/09/14 20:06, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:12:16 +0100, Doctor John wrote:
> 
>> On 19/09/14 22:59, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>
>>> And I hope the RL stuff isn't too serious, John.
>>>
>>>
>> No. Just work-related sh*t. Had to rewrite a complete Justification of
>> Resources before the dead-line (today at midday).
> 
> Ah, OK - I know that feeling. :)
> 

With a bit of luck, I'll get what we need. I've over-estimated by 25%
and expect the Powers That Be to cut me by 20%. Guess who wins :-)

>> Left work early and took the Feegle to the park with his best friend
>> Ellie this afternoon.
> 
> Fun!
> 

Yup! Lots of running around for the kids and lots of sitting around,
chatting and sipping wine and nibbling things for the parents. (as you
might have guessed we were not alone)

John
-- 
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 20 Sep 2014 19:08:22
Message: <541e08e6$1@news.povray.org>
It is, you can hardly have power over other without power over money or 
vice-versa


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 21 Sep 2014 01:11:24
Message: <541e5dfc$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 22:41:09 +0100, Doctor John wrote:

> On 20/09/14 20:06, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:12:16 +0100, Doctor John wrote:
>> 
>>> On 19/09/14 22:59, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And I hope the RL stuff isn't too serious, John.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No. Just work-related sh*t. Had to rewrite a complete Justification of
>>> Resources before the dead-line (today at midday).
>> 
>> Ah, OK - I know that feeling. :)
>> 
>> 
> With a bit of luck, I'll get what we need. I've over-estimated by 25%
> and expect the Powers That Be to cut me by 20%. Guess who wins :-)

That's the way to do estimation - I learned quite quickly that weighted 
best case/worst case/likely case averages are pretty effective, because 
it tends to err on the side of caution.

>>> Left work early and took the Feegle to the park with his best friend
>>> Ellie this afternoon.
>> 
>> Fun!
>> 
>> 
> Yup! Lots of running around for the kids and lots of sitting around,
> chatting and sipping wine and nibbling things for the parents. (as you
> might have guessed we were not alone)

We've had quite the day here - our son K took a job working the front 
desk in our apartment building, and he arrived early this afternoon.  
We've been showing him around town today, just got back from seeing 
Guardians of the Galaxy a second time (for us - he hadn't seen it before).

Jim





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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 9 Oct 2014 11:20:11
Message: <5436a7ab$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:03:43 +0100, Doctor John wrote:

> On 19/09/14 21:53, Stephen wrote:
>> On 19/09/2014 21:52, Stephen wrote:
>>> The play is reversed and the goodish doctor forfeits his turn as one
>>> bad turn deserves another. Throw the dice again.
>> 
>> Our scorer forgives and James is in Huff.
>> 
>> 
> I take advantage of James's temporary indisposition and head for:
> Goodge Street.
> 
> John

*buzz* Hesitation from Stephen.

So I guess Stephen's in huff.

Wimbledon.

Jim
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 9 Oct 2014 12:42:27
Message: <5436baf3@news.povray.org>
On 09/10/2014 16:20, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:03:43 +0100, Doctor John wrote:
>
>> On 19/09/14 21:53, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 19/09/2014 21:52, Stephen wrote:
>>>> The play is reversed and the goodish doctor forfeits his turn as one
>>>> bad turn deserves another. Throw the dice again.
>>>
>>> Our scorer forgives and James is in Huff.
>>>
>>>
>> I take advantage of James's temporary indisposition and head for:
>> Goodge Street.
>>
>> John
>
> *buzz* Hesitation from Stephen.
>
> So I guess Stephen's in huff.
>

I said at the beginning that I would not sully myself Stephen <clearing 
throat sound> Fry, rules.


> Wimbledon.
>

A brave move but it just might just give you an advantage.



-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 10 Oct 2014 02:56:04
Message: <54378304@news.povray.org>
On 09/10/14 17:42, Stephen wrote:
> On 09/10/2014 16:20, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Wimbledon.
>>
> 
> A brave move but it just might just give you an advantage.
> 

<The feegle wakes up early, sees game in progress and seizes dice>
One, two, thlee, many! <Moves Pappi's marker to M*rningt*n Crescent,
whilst accidentally kicking Jim's marker under the bed> Goal! I winned!

John (on behalf of His Royal Feegleness)
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You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 10 Oct 2014 23:28:17
Message: <5438a3d1$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 07:56:02 +0100, Doctor John wrote:

> On 09/10/14 17:42, Stephen wrote:
>> On 09/10/2014 16:20, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> Wimbledon.
>>>
>>>
>> A brave move but it just might just give you an advantage.
>> 
>> 
> <The feegle wakes up early, sees game in progress and seizes dice> One,
> two, thlee, many! <Moves Pappi's marker to M*rningt*n Crescent, whilst
> accidentally kicking Jim's marker under the bed> Goal! I winned!
> 
> John (on behalf of His Royal Feegleness)

Bugger!  Beaten by the Feegle!

Well played!

Jim



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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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