What's on your desktop? Not the virtual one but the real one.
Right now I have two monitors, a keyboard, a mouse and a KVM switch.
There are also an empty coffee cup (with the word TEA written on it),
two landline telephones and a mobile, a pile of unanswered mail, a toy
penguin called Tux, a half-empty bottle of Lucozade Sport and, for no
apparent reason, a 2 metre length of Cat5 cable.

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On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:05:35 +0100, Doctor John wrote:

> What's on your desktop?

Lots of stuff.

Probably too much to enumerate, actually - and I need to clear some of it 
off, because I am getting some new gear next week - including a new 27" 
monitor for work.  I'm not sure exactly where I'm going to put it, 
because I hate to block the view I have to the north out my window.

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On 06/07/14 21:52, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:05:35 +0100, Doctor John wrote:
> 
>> What's on your desktop?
> 
> Lots of stuff.
> 
> Probably too much to enumerate, actually - and I need to clear some of it 
> off, because I am getting some new gear next week - including a new 27" 
> monitor for work.  I'm not sure exactly where I'm going to put it, 
> because I hate to block the view I have to the north out my window.
> 
> Jim
> 

OK just some of the more unusual items.

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On 06/07/2014 09:05 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> What's on your desktop?

Three candles, a lava lamp, a plasma ball, a fibre-optic lamp, my 
keyboard and monitor, my stereo system, my *other* keyboard [the musical 
kind], about 400 CDs, a digital 8-track, a laser printer, an Ethernet 
hub, an assortment of stationary, my sound card, and my digital camera.

Oh, and not forgetting the USB key which allows Cubase to run. If you 
divide purchase price by physical volume, that's probably the densest 
object on the desk.

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On 6-7-2014 22:05, Doctor John wrote:
> What's on your desktop? Not the virtual one but the real one.
> Right now I have two monitors, a keyboard, a mouse and a KVM switch.
> There are also an empty coffee cup (with the word TEA written on it),
> two landline telephones and a mobile, a pile of unanswered mail, a toy
> penguin called Tux, a half-empty bottle of Lucozade Sport and, for no
> apparent reason, a 2 metre length of Cat5 cable.
>
> John
>
two monitors, an old deceased amplifier, a speakerbox, pinter, laptop, 
scanner, books, piles of paper, lots of wires, keys, broken glasses, 
batteries, caminandes usb thingy (http://www.caminandes.com/), business 
cards, mobile phone, mice, 40GB digital tape (unopened), voltage 
detector, ...

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On 06/07/14 22:44, andrel wrote:
> two monitors, an old deceased amplifier, a speakerbox, pinter, laptop,
> scanner, books, piles of paper, lots of wires, keys, broken glasses,
> batteries, caminandes usb thingy (http://www.caminandes.com/), business
> cards, mobile phone, mice, 40GB digital tape (unopened), voltage
> detector, ...
> 

You really need to tidy up.:-D

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On 06/07/14 22:44, andrel wrote:
>snip
>...mice,

The ones with legs that eat cheese?

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On 06/07/14 22:34, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 06/07/2014 09:05 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> What's on your desktop?
> 
> Three candles, a lava lamp, a plasma ball, a fibre-optic lamp, my
> keyboard and monitor, my stereo system, my *other* keyboard [the musical
> kind], about 400 CDs, a digital 8-track, a laser printer, an Ethernet
> hub, an assortment of stationary, my sound card, and my digital camera.
> 
> Oh, and not forgetting the USB key which allows Cubase to run. If you
> divide purchase price by physical volume, that's probably the densest
> object on the desk.

All on one desktop?
How big's your desk

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On 7-7-2014 0:06, Doctor John wrote:
> On 06/07/14 22:44, andrel wrote:
>> two monitors, an old deceased amplifier, a speakerbox, pinter, laptop,
>> scanner, books, piles of paper, lots of wires, keys, broken glasses,
>> batteries, caminandes usb thingy (http://www.caminandes.com/), business
>> cards, mobile phone, mice, 40GB digital tape (unopened), voltage
>> detector, ...
>>
>
> You really need to tidy up.:-D

Do I?

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On 7-7-2014 0:14, Doctor John wrote:
> On 06/07/14 22:44, andrel wrote:
>> snip
>> ...mice,
>
> The ones with legs that eat cheese?

The correct quote would be "are we talking about the little white furry 
things with the cheese fixation and women standing on tables screaming 
in early sixties sit coms?"


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On 06/07/14 23:39, andrel wrote:
> On 7-7-2014 0:14, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 06/07/14 22:44, andrel wrote:
>>> snip
>>> ...mice,
>>
>> The ones with legs that eat cheese?
> 
> The correct quote would be "are we talking about the little white furry
> things with the cheese fixation and women standing on tables screaming
> in early sixties sit coms?"
> 
> 

Indeed. . you have me there.

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On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:56:34 +0100, Doctor John wrote:

> On 06/07/14 21:52, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:05:35 +0100, Doctor John wrote:
>> 
>>> What's on your desktop?
>> 
>> Lots of stuff.
>> 
>> Probably too much to enumerate, actually - and I need to clear some of
>> it off, because I am getting some new gear next week - including a new
>> 27" monitor for work.  I'm not sure exactly where I'm going to put it,
>> because I hate to block the view I have to the north out my window.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
> OK just some of the more unusual items.

Green laser pointer, and a solar powered charger. :)

Oh, and a stack of "Get Out of Hell Free" cards.

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On 06/07/2014 11:17 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> All on one desktop?
> How big's your desk

The horizontal part is 240cm by 800cm.

Needless to say, you don't buy something like that in a shop. My mother 
constructed the thing. It's actually several lengths of cheap laminated 
counter-top, bolted together with a random assortment of screws, 
dowel-pins and angle brackets. It also has a small set of shelves on 
top. My mother lives for solving problems like this with needlessly 
complicated solutions...

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> What's on your desktop? Not the virtual one but the real one.

Apart from the obvious items, I've got a SpaceMouse 3D mouse, a bottle 
of coke with the label "Share a Coke Zero with Gin", some random parts 
from some of the products we are making/designing. The most interesting 
thing (and probably the highest price per unit volume) is a tiny disc of 
sapphire with a 40 micron hole down the middle.

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> The horizontal part is 240cm by 800cm.

That is *HUGE*.

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Le 2014-07-06 16:05, Doctor John a écrit :
> What's on your desktop? Not the virtual one but the real one.
> Right now I have two monitors, a keyboard, a mouse and a KVM switch.
> There are also an empty coffee cup (with the word TEA written on it),
> two landline telephones and a mobile, a pile of unanswered mail, a toy
> penguin called Tux, a half-empty bottle of Lucozade Sport and, for no
> apparent reason, a 2 metre length of Cat5 cable.
>
> John
>
 From left to right (as if it mattered!):
3-in-1 Printer
Computer Tower
Speaker
20" screen (old 4x3 aspect ratio)
15" screen (also old)
Speaker
Cordless phone base with phone in it.
In-basket filled with:
- IBM logo cup with pens, pencils and X-Acto knife.
- Paperclip dispenser with paper-clips.
- dozen post-it pads of various sizes
- 12" ruler
- Bluetooth ear piece charger
Box of Kleenex
Bottle of screen cleaning spray
Notepad
CD filled with pictures from my daughter's daycare
two unpaid bills

Up to 10 days ago, there would have been a cat snoring on the desk as 
well, but he's now in the Big-Comfy-Couch-In-The-Sky.

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Le 2014-07-07 03:45, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
> On 06/07/2014 11:17 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> All on one desktop?
>> How big's your desk
>
> The horizontal part is 240cm by 800cm.
>
You sure about that?

that desk is 8ft by 25ft.

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Am 06.07.2014 22:05, schrieb Doctor John:
> What's on your desktop? Not the virtual one but the real one.
> Right now I have two monitors, a keyboard, a mouse and a KVM switch.
> There are also an empty coffee cup (with the word TEA written on it),
> two landline telephones and a mobile, a pile of unanswered mail, a toy
> penguin called Tux, a half-empty bottle of Lucozade Sport and, for no
> apparent reason, a 2 metre length of Cat5 cable.

I can confirm the Cat5 cable ;-)

Other than that:
Two monitors - check. Both 24", for maximum screen real estate.
A keyboard - check.
A mouse - check.
A KVM switch - nope. But I do have access to the other machine via Xming.

An empty coffee cup and half-empty bottle of Lucozade - nope. A 
non-empty glass of water sits within arm's reach in a bookshelf to my 
right though; the desktop proved to be a too dangerous place for liquid 
containers.

Two landline telephones and a mobile - nope, just one landline. And not 
actually landline, but ISDN via VoIP.

A pile of unanswered mail - check. Plus plenty of other pieces of paper 
including invoices, newspaper clippings and a pizza service brochure, 
CDs, and some odds & ends.

A toy penguin - nope, no mascots here. A plastic rose though.

That, plus:
A printer stand with plenty of blank printer paper; a laser 
printer/scanner/photocopier/fax machine; two large jugs and a miniature 
dustbin all crammed with pens, pencils, markers, eraser pens, and a pair 
of scissors; a collection of plastic customer cards, business cards and 
similar; a silver TC-RTC trophy keychain; a wristwatch that hasn't been 
rewound for ages; a beyerdynamics headset I got for my 40th birthday; a 
small toothpick container (with a few picks left); a colorimeter; an LED 
flashlight; a set of nasty-sounding speakers I barely use anymore; a 
mousepad; and two game keypads I've not used for ages.

Ah, and of course a Raspberry Pi. Which is the reason why /I/ have a 2 
metre length of Cat5 cable on my desktop (a patch cable actually) ;-).

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Am 07.07.2014 09:45, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:
> On 06/07/2014 11:17 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> All on one desktop?
>> How big's your desk
>
> The horizontal part is 240cm by 800cm.

You're sure you don't mean 240cm by 80cm?

Then again, no, that would probably be too small for all the stuff.

Gee, I don't even have a room large enough for such a beast!

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Am 07.07.2014 15:36, schrieb Francois Labreque:

> Up to 10 days ago, there would have been a cat snoring on the desk as
> well, but he's now in the Big-Comfy-Couch-In-The-Sky.

That's sad; my sympathies.

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>>> How big's your desk
>>
>> The horizontal part is 240cm by 800cm.
>
> You're sure you don't mean 240cm by 80cm?

Er, yeah, that.

(It's too early in the morning...)

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On 07/07/2014 03:57 PM, clipka wrote:
> Gee, I don't even have a room large enough for such a beast!

I only have two rooms. But one of them contains a double bed, a 
wardrobe, a chest of drawers, a bookcase, that palatial desk and still 
has sufficient floorspace for my to practice my mambo steps.

I think when I tell people that I live in a "one-bedroom flat", they 
imaging something like a broom cupboard. I only have two rooms, but 
they're really quite... large.

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> Apart from the obvious items, I've got a SpaceMouse 3D mouse, a bottle
> of coke with the label "Share a Coke Zero with Gin", some random parts
> from some of the products we are making/designing. The most interesting
> thing (and probably the highest price per unit volume) is a tiny disc of
> sapphire with a 40 micron hole down the middle.

And for my desk at home... 3 monitors, a steering wheel and a gear 
stick... a couple of bills, a printer, amp and speakers, a rack full of 
various electronic bits, a mini-screwdriver set, a tape measure, an 
arduino and stepper motor driver board (with a heat sink bigger than 
board itself), a YLOD'd PS3 that I keep meaning to sell on ebay, a Sony 
action cam, a manual on how a dual-action polisher works, and my gf gets 
30cm at the end for an in-tray-like contraption that she hardly ever 
touches :-)

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On 06/07/2014 9:05 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> What's on your desktop?

You don't want to know. And I don't want to tell you.

Ugg!

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On 07/07/2014 8:45 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
> The horizontal part is 240cm by 800cm.

What is that in real money?

And what about the vertical part? That is what intrigues me.

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On 06/07/2014 11:06 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 06/07/14 22:44, andrel wrote:
>> two monitors, an old deceased amplifier, a speakerbox, pinter, laptop,
>> scanner, books, piles of paper, lots of wires, keys, broken glasses,
>> batteries, caminandes usb thingy (http://www.caminandes.com/), business
>> cards, mobile phone, mice, 40GB digital tape (unopened), voltage
>> detector, ...
>>
>
> You really need to tidy up.:-D
>

It is the man's life you are talking about, John.

andrel, how long have you had that desk as a pet?


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On 07/07/2014 2:36 PM, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Up to 10 days ago, there would have been a cat snoring on the desk as
> well, but he's now in the Big-Comfy-Couch-In-The-Sky.


Sadness. :-(

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On 07/07/2014 3:48 PM, clipka wrote:
>
> That, plus:
> A printer stand with plenty of blank printer paper; a laser
> printer/scanner/photocopier/fax machine; two large jugs and a miniature
> dustbin all crammed with pens, pencils, markers, eraser pens, and a pair
> of scissors; a collection of plastic customer cards, business cards and
> similar; a silver TC-RTC trophy keychain; a wristwatch that hasn't been
> rewound for ages; a beyerdynamics headset I got for my 40th birthday; a
> small toothpick container (with a few picks left); a colorimeter; an LED
> flashlight; a set of nasty-sounding speakers I barely use anymore; a
> mousepad; and two game keypads I've not used for ages.

Attention to detail, what! :-)

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Am 07.07.2014 21:59, schrieb Stephen:
> On 06/07/2014 9:05 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> What's on your desktop?
>
> You don't want to know. And I don't want to tell you.

How do you know we don't want to know? We can be pretty curious...

...thinks: Well, maybe /that/ is why the cat is gone. We probably 
shouldn't have asked...


"Curiosity killed the cat."
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On 7-7-2014 22:16, Stephen wrote:
> On 06/07/2014 11:06 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 06/07/14 22:44, andrel wrote:
>>> two monitors, an old deceased amplifier, a speakerbox, pinter, laptop,
>>> scanner, books, piles of paper, lots of wires, keys, broken glasses,
>>> batteries, caminandes usb thingy (http://www.caminandes.com/), business
>>> cards, mobile phone, mice, 40GB digital tape (unopened), voltage
>>> detector, ...
>>>
>>
>> You really need to tidy up.:-D
>>
>
> It is the man's life you are talking about, John.
>
> andrel, how long have you had that desk as a pet?
>
>

I built it, I think, a year after I moved in, so about 13-14 years now.



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On 07/07/14 19:21, scott wrote:
> <snip> ... and my gf gets
> 30cm at the end for an in-tray-like contraption that she hardly ever
> touches :-)
> 

Is there no end to your generosity? ;-)

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>> <snip> ... and my gf gets
>> 30cm at the end for an in-tray-like contraption that she hardly ever
>> touches :-)
>
> Is there no end to your generosity? ;-)

Well she has her own desk in another room... she's lucky I haven't 
cleared her stuff off my desk :-)

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On 08/07/2014 2:42 PM, scott wrote:
> she's lucky I haven't cleared her stuff off my desk :-)

No you are lucke. Or wise, even. ;-)


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On 07/07/2014 10:37 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 07.07.2014 21:59, schrieb Stephen:
>> On 06/07/2014 9:05 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>>> What's on your desktop?
>>
>> You don't want to know. And I don't want to tell you.
>
> How do you know we don't want to know?

'Cause I know better than thou.

> We can be pretty curious...
>

Some say stupid but not twice.

> ....thinks: Well, maybe /that/ is why the cat is gone. We probably
> shouldn't have asked...
>

No point. You wouldn't understand the answer.

>
> "Curiosity killed the cat."
>    - E. Schrodinger
>

Are you sure?

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On 07/07/2014 10:48 PM, andrel wrote:
> On 7-7-2014 22:16, Stephen wrote:
>> On 06/07/2014 11:06 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>>> On 06/07/14 22:44, andrel wrote:
>>>> two monitors, an old deceased amplifier, a speakerbox, pinter, laptop,
>>>> scanner, books, piles of paper, lots of wires, keys, broken glasses,
>>>> batteries, caminandes usb thingy (http://www.caminandes.com/), business
>>>> cards, mobile phone, mice, 40GB digital tape (unopened), voltage
>>>> detector, ...
>>>>
>>>
>>> You really need to tidy up.:-D
>>>
>>
>> It is the man's life you are talking about, John.
>>
>> andrel, how long have you had that desk as a pet?
>>
>>
>
> I built it, I think, a year after I moved in, so about 13-14 years now.
>

Then no man can tell you what to do with it.


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in news:53b9ac20$1@news.povray.org Doctor John wrote:

> What's on your desktop

about 25 books on brewing, box with 7 USB drives, scanner, printer, 2 
broken labtops, pint of porter with two sips left, thing with two legs to 
draw circles, two coffee mugs (empty), a fur dinosaur, abox with my son's 
teeth, blue fur hippo, e-reader, 5 pairs of glasses, cameras and a lot 
more

Ingo

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Am 08.07.2014 22:53, schrieb Stephen:
> On 07/07/2014 10:37 PM, clipka wrote:

>> "Curiosity killed the cat."
>>    - E. Schrodinger
>
> Are you sure?

Well, /if/ Schrodinger's kitty ever turns out to be /definitely/ dead, 
then it /will/ be curiosity that killed it. Without a cruel curious 
observer to open the box to look, kitty could exist happily ever after 
in a state of comfy uncertainty.

(Note that Schrodinger's though experiment is terribly bogus; as he 
noted himself, the idea of a feline being alive /and/ dead at the same 
time is ridiculous enough, but the mere thought of any box providing no 
conceivable escape route for a cat really tops it off. Now a canine, 
that would be an entirely different story...)

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On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:53:01 +0100, Stephen wrote:

>> "Curiosity killed the cat."
>>    - E. Schrodinger
>>
>>
> Are you sure?

LOL



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On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 03:36:23 +0200, clipka wrote:

>  but the mere thought of any box providing no
> conceivable escape route for a cat really tops it off.

With our three cats, that doesn't seem infeasible.  They seem to prefer 
spending all their time in the various boxes we've left around the house 
for them.

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From this whole exercise I must conclude that the "Clean Desk" movement 
has gotten nowhere at all :-) At my office somewhen during the nineties 
that was the policy; it didn't work of course.

So, what do I surround me with? Papers (lots of) from snippets (1x5 cm) 
to A4 format; books (also paper, but different, as those from an older 
generation know); a tea mug (full); a piece of toasted bread; a torture 
instrument to pierce holes in paper sheets; two rulers for different 
scales (e.g. 1:250 1:500 1:1250); two pens; a PC + screen; soundboxes.

Not properly on the desktop but within reach on a shelf, are more papers 
and books; a box with an assorted collection of desktop junk like 
scissors and staples etc; a pack of playing cards and a pack of Tarot 
cards; a couple of notebooks (paper); a thermometer; two external drives.

I may have forgotten some items.... :-)

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> From this whole exercise I must conclude that the "Clean Desk" movement
> has gotten nowhere at all :-)


I don't know about that. From what I've read here everyone seems quite
regulated. Mine is so cluttered it is like an archilogical dig finding things. I
have even misplaced a dwarf wolly mamoth, somewhere.

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On 9-7-2014 13:45, Stephen wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>>  From this whole exercise I must conclude that the "Clean Desk" movement
>> has gotten nowhere at all :-)
>
>
> I don't know about that. From what I've read here everyone seems quite
> regulated.

Well, regulated compared with /your/ desk? ;-)

Mine is so cluttered it is like an archilogical dig finding things. I
> have even misplaced a dwarf wolly mamoth, somewhere.

Yes, that's what I mean. I can easily recognise that :-)

Thomas

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Le 2014-07-08 23:05, Jim Henderson a écrit :
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 03:36:23 +0200, clipka wrote:
>
>>   but the mere thought of any box providing no
>> conceivable escape route for a cat really tops it off.
>
> With our three cats, that doesn't seem infeasible.  They seem to prefer
> spending all their time in the various boxes we've left around the house
> for them.
>
> Jim

Feline rules of acquisition:
1. Can I eat it?
2. Can I sleep on it?
	2.a.  Were you trying to read that?
	2.b.  Will cat hair mess it up?
3. Can I sleep in it?

If you've answered yes to any of the questions above, the item now 
belongs to the cat and any attempt to reclaim it will prove to be futile.

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Le 2014-07-09 07:45, Stephen a écrit :
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>>  From this whole exercise I must conclude that the "Clean Desk" movement
>> has gotten nowhere at all :-)
>
>
> I don't know about that. From what I've read here everyone seems quite
> regulated. Mine is so cluttered it is like an archilogical dig finding things. I
> have even misplaced a dwarf wolly mamoth, somewhere.
>

I had a prof in university who would routinely "lose" the phone on his 
desk and would have no choice but start from the wall jack and follow 
the wire, as the stack of papers and circuit boards would muffle the 
ring sound.



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Am 09.07.2014 15:57, schrieb Francois Labreque:

> I had a prof in university who would routinely "lose" the phone on his
> desk and would have no choice but start from the wall jack and follow
> the wire, as the stack of papers and circuit boards would muffle the
> ring sound.

He'll be screwed when they replace the old phones with wireless ones..

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On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 09:53:31 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:

> Le 2014-07-08 23:05, Jim Henderson a écrit :
>> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 03:36:23 +0200, clipka wrote:
>>
>>>   but the mere thought of any box providing no
>>> conceivable escape route for a cat really tops it off.
>>
>> With our three cats, that doesn't seem infeasible.  They seem to prefer
>> spending all their time in the various boxes we've left around the
>> house for them.
>>
>> Jim
> 
> Feline rules of acquisition:
> 1. Can I eat it?
> 2. Can I sleep on it?
> 	2.a.  Were you trying to read that?
> 	2.b.  Will cat hair mess it up?
> 3. Can I sleep in it?
> 
> If you've answered yes to any of the questions above, the item now
> belongs to the cat and any attempt to reclaim it will prove to be
> futile.

That explains what happens when a cat lies down on your lap, 
certainly...We call it "cat stapling," but I've also heard it called 
"feline paralysis."

Jim


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On 09/07/2014 7:48 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 09:53:31 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:

>> If you've answered yes to any of the questions above, the item now
>> belongs to the cat and any attempt to reclaim it will prove to be
>> futile.
>
> That explains what happens when a cat lies down on your lap,
> certainly...We call it "cat stapling," but I've also heard it called
> "feline paralysis."
>


My story is:
Quite a few years ago, my wife took time off work because she was ill. 
When I came home that night she was lying on the sofa. Because our cat 
had gone into the bedroom and head butted* her until she got out of bed. 
Then he went to sleep in "his" bed.

* Yes, the cat was from Glasgow and in the UK a head butt is called a 
Glasgow Kiss. So maybe Bertie was being affectionate?

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On 9-7-2014 20:48, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 09:53:31 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:
>
>> Le 2014-07-08 23:05, Jim Henderson a écrit :
>> If you've answered yes to any of the questions above, the item now
>> belongs to the cat and any attempt to reclaim it will prove to be
>> futile.
>
> That explains what happens when a cat lies down on your lap,
> certainly...We call it "cat stapling," but I've also heard it called
> "feline paralysis."

And there is no cure.

One of our cats found it quite normal at night to sleep on my chest, 
front paws on both sides of my neck, snoring in my ears, saliva dripping 
in my neck. The worst however, was when he was dreaming...

Thomas

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On 9-7-2014 13:45, Stephen wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>>  From this whole exercise I must conclude that the "Clean Desk" movement
>> has gotten nowhere at all :-)
>
>
> I don't know about that. From what I've read here everyone seems quite
> regulated. Mine is so cluttered it is like an archilogical dig finding things. I
> have even misplaced a dwarf wolly mamoth, somewhere.

The Clean Desk Policy was very strict. Except for a screen, a keyboard, 
a mouse and a phone, nothing was allowed after working hours. It meant 
you had to re-create your own junk every morning and clean it up before 
leaving. The bright idea (for which managers are sometimes known) behind 
the concept was that a "cluttered desk revealed a cluttered mind" etc 
etc. I suspect that the ideal was a permanently pristine desk during 
working hours.

Ah, but you know all that I am sure.

Thomas

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Le 2014-07-10 03:29, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> On 9-7-2014 13:45, Stephen wrote:
>> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>>>  From this whole exercise I must conclude that the "Clean Desk" movement
>>> has gotten nowhere at all :-)
>>
>>
>> I don't know about that. From what I've read here everyone seems quite
>> regulated. Mine is so cluttered it is like an archilogical dig finding
>> things. I
>> have even misplaced a dwarf wolly mamoth, somewhere.
>
> The Clean Desk Policy was very strict. Except for a screen, a keyboard,
> a mouse and a phone, nothing was allowed after working hours. It meant
> you had to re-create your own junk every morning and clean it up before
> leaving. The bright idea (for which managers are sometimes known) behind
> the concept was that a "cluttered desk revealed a cluttered mind" etc
> etc. I suspect that the ideal was a permanently pristine desk during
> working hours.
>
> Ah, but you know all that I am sure.
>
> Thomas
>

At my work, the "clean desk policy" was to prevent confidential 
information from falling into the wrong hands, which makes sense at 
first, but quickly veered into GATTACA levels of paranoia, since going 
through someone's rolodeck might reveal which customers and which 
suppliers she's working with and may give a competitor information about 
deals she's pursuing (assuming, of course, that the janitor is really a 
competitor in disguise), so they enforced rules such as "no telephone 
numbers must be visible" - which meant that depending on how anal 
retentive the person doing the evening workplace audit was, you could 
get written up for having the city phonebook on your bookshelf, or a 
business card from your dentist.

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