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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 14:33:17
Message: <52fa7afd$1@news.povray.org>
While browsing in my lunch break, I came across this:

http://www.casabatllo.es/

I have no idea where the hell this is, but it looks like one very 
special building!



I also came across this picture of an amazing piece of furniture:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Art_Nouveau_Dining_Masson.jpg

It boggles my mind that a human being was able to *think* of this shape, 
never mind actually curve it out of a lump of wood and have it not break...



More generally, doing a Google image search for "art nouveau" turns up 
huge numbers of images (of widely varying quality) featuring vibrant 
colours and sweeping curves.

One of the early hits is this:

http://tinyurl.com/qfkz85g

I have literally *no idea* how it is physically possible to draw curves 
like this. Even using a computer, I cannot begin to imagine how you 
would describe such intricate curves. I am baffled as to how anybody 
manages to draw these.

Here's another one:

http://tinyurl.com/q69kva6

How on Earth do you design something so complicated? How do you even 
picture something like that in your mind's eye, never mind actually 
*draw* it?

Finally, take a look at this:

http://arquitracobrasil.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/000188780.jpg

Isn't that the most amazing vista?



I guess we can take away two things from this:

1. I have no imagination.
2. I suck at drawing.



PS. If you try the thing with the image search, you will *also* find 
that about 80% of the images are of girls, in varying states of undress. 
I guess girls have more flowing curves - or the Internet is entirely 
populated by males...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 15:14:08
Message: <52fa8490$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/02/2014 7:33 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> While browsing in my lunch break, I came across this:
>
> http://www.casabatllo.es/
>
> I have no idea where the hell this is,

Barcelona

> but it looks like one very
> special building!
>

Welcome to the world of Gaudi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Gaud%C3%AD

He also designed a church'
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sagrada+Fam%C3%ADlia&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ToT6Uq6PHa_Q7AbakYCQBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1301&bih=614




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     Stephen


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 16:02:54
Message: <52fa8ffe@news.povray.org>
Le 11/02/2014 20:33, Orchid Win7 v1 nous fit lire :

> http://tinyurl.com/q69kva6
> 
> How on Earth do you design something so complicated? How do you even
> picture something like that in your mind's eye, never mind actually
> *draw* it?
> 

"art nouveau" was inspired by tree, flowers, insects, and beats, as a
reaction to over linear industry-objects of the previous era (Victorian
"steampunk" is a caricature of that previous era)

Using industry-material to reproduce anti-industry pattern. It's a
reaction to the flat straight destination of all industrial production
of that time. Some entries of the Parisian metropolitan, built at that
period, are still displaying such fancy decorations.


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 16:43:42
Message: <52fa998e$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/02/2014 08:14 PM, Stephen wrote:

> Welcome to the world of Gaudi.
>
> He also designed a church'
>
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sagrada+Fam%C3%ADlia&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ToT6Uq6PHa_Q7AbakYCQBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1301&bih=614

Jesus Christ! O_O






...oh, wait.


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 16:50:11
Message: <52fa9b13$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/02/2014 09:02 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> "art nouveau" was inspired by tree, flowers, insects, and beats, as a
> reaction to over linear industry-objects of the previous era (Victorian
> "steampunk" is a caricature of that previous era)

I actually kinda like all that steampunk stuff too. (Although, as you 
say, it's an exaggeration; nothing like this ever actually existed in 
the Victorian era.)

I'm not sure what *caused* art nouveau; I wasn't there. I just know that 
it looks visually stunning. (I'm reminded of YES for some reason.) And, 
interestingly, it was apparently immediately followed by art deco, which 
is the polar opposite of it; flat colours and geometric shapes.



Also, I don't know when they added it, but now if you start typing in 
Google, it attempts to finish your search term for you. Which is 
fortunate, because "nouveau" is almost impossible to spell.

(There's an open source video driver for various nVidia GPUs which is 
named "nouveau" for some reason. Our team spent ages fixing broken 
builds due to yet *another* misspelling of this absurd name...)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 17:33:03
Message: <52faa51f$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/02/2014 9:43 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 11/02/2014 08:14 PM, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Welcome to the world of Gaudi.
>>
>> He also designed a church'
>>
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sagrada+Fam%C3%ADlia&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ToT6Uq6PHa_Q7AbakYCQBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1301&bih=614
>>
>
> Jesus Christ! O_O
>
>
That was the reaction he hoped to elicit, I would think.

>

> ....oh, wait.

:-)

If you ever get the chance. No! Make the opportunity to visit Barcelona. 
The sea food is above comparison, the art is there and the people are 
Spanish. Nay! Catalonian, therefore by definition nice people.


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     Stephen


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 17:54:17
Message: <52faaa19@news.povray.org>
On 11/02/14 21:50, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> I'm not sure what *caused* art nouveau; I wasn't there. I just know that
> it looks visually stunning. (I'm reminded of YES for some reason.) And,
> interestingly, it was apparently immediately followed by art deco, which
> is the polar opposite of it; flat colours and geometric shapes.
> 

That's interesting. It was memories of YES album covers that fired my
interest in ray-tracing.

> 
> Also, I don't know when they added it, but now if you start typing in
> Google, it attempts to finish your search term for you. Which is
> fortunate, because "nouveau" is almost impossible to spell.

Quite a while ago. I usually switch it off because I hate machines
trying to second-guess me.

John
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 18:04:18
Message: <52faac72$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/02/2014 10:53 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> Quite a while ago. I usually switch it off because I hate machines
> trying to second-guess me.

I hate lippy machines.

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From: FractRacer
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 18:38:18
Message: <52fab46a@news.povray.org>
Le 11/02/2014 20:33, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>
> I have literally *no idea* how it is physically possible to draw curves
> like this. Even using a computer, I cannot begin to imagine how you
> would describe such intricate curves. I am baffled as to how anybody
> manages to draw these.
>
Try "durer knots" in your google search, Albrecht Dürer was a graphist 
living in 1500, he made some wonderfull curves and knots.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 19:50:56
Message: <52fac570@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:43:46 +0000, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

> On 11/02/2014 08:14 PM, Stephen wrote:
> 
>> Welcome to the world of Gaudi.
>>
>> He also designed a church'
>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sagrada+Fam%C3%
ADlia&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ToT6Uq6PHa_Q7AbakYCQBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1301&bih=614
> 
> Jesus Christ! O_O
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ...oh, wait.

I still can't believe I was in Barcelona and didn't take the time to go 
see it.  Well, I could see it from the top of my hotel, but I was there a 
week ahead of the start of the conference I was there for (employer rules 
didn't allow everyone on a few flights, so they spread them out over many 
flights, and I was on the second flight in).

From where I was, it was pretty amazing.  I really wish I'd gone and had 
a closer look.

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 19:51:30
Message: <52fac592$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:33:02 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> Catalonian, therefore by definition nice people.

Just don't try to use Spanish when you talk to them - most will pretend 
not to understand you. :)

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 11 Feb 2014 22:02:20
Message: <52fae43c$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/02/14 00:50, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
> I still can't believe I was in Barcelona and didn't take the time to go 
> see it.  Well, I could see it from the top of my hotel, but I was there a 
> week ahead of the start of the conference I was there for 

So, what were you doing for that empty week?

BTW you can't plead the 5th. The US Constitution doesn't apply on the
interwebs ;-)

John
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 12 Feb 2014 00:04:25
Message: <52fb00d9@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:01:37 +0000, Doctor John wrote:

> On 12/02/14 00:50, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> 
>> I still can't believe I was in Barcelona and didn't take the time to go
>> see it.  Well, I could see it from the top of my hotel, but I was there
>> a week ahead of the start of the conference I was there for
> 
> So, what were you doing for that empty week?

Would you believe setting up the conference I was there to attend (not 
all by myself, I offered to help). :)

> BTW you can't plead the 5th. The US Constitution doesn't apply on the
> interwebs ;-)

The interwebs aren't a court of law, either, so I could opt just not to 
answer. ;)

Jim
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 13 Feb 2014 14:51:02
Message: <52FD2212.2080908@gmail.com>
On 11-2-2014 23:33, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/02/2014 9:43 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> On 11/02/2014 08:14 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Welcome to the world of Gaudi.
>>>
>>> He also designed a church'
>>>
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sagrada+Fam%C3%ADlia&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ToT6Uq6PHa_Q7AbakYCQBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1301&bih=614
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Jesus Christ! O_O
>>
>>
> That was the reaction he hoped to elicit, I would think.
>
>>
>
>> ....oh, wait.
>
> :-)
>
> If you ever get the chance. No! Make the opportunity to visit Barcelona.
> The sea food is above comparison, the art is there and the people are
> Spanish. Nay! Catalonian, therefore by definition nice people.

And they have a nice hospital nearby... oh, sorry, wrong audience.
But seriously even the hospital is interesting (though not Gaudi) and 
the food in the local canteen for the doctors and nurses (and occasional 
visitors) is much better than many restaurants in my town.




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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 13 Feb 2014 15:40:41
Message: <op.xa8mdyebufxv4h@xena>
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 01:42:20 +0200, FractRacer <lg.### [at] gmailcom> wro
te:

> Le 11/02/2014 20:33, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>>
>> I have literally *no idea* how it is physically possible to draw curv
es
>> like this. Even using a computer, I cannot begin to imagine how you
>> would describe such intricate curves. I am baffled as to how anybody
>> manages to draw these.
>>
> Try "durer knots" in your google search, Albrecht Dürer was a graphi
st
> living in 1500, he made some wonderfull curves and knots.
>
>
I know Da Vinci was also into complicated knots, but I can't seem to fin
d  

it on the net. This one is "after Da Vinci"
http://arthistory.about.com/od/from_exhibitions/ig/Leonardo-in-Milan/32-
After-Leonardo-da-Vinci-Knot-Pattern-ca-1495.htm


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 13 Feb 2014 15:56:38
Message: <op.xa8m4juaufxv4h@xena>
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:33:20 +0200, Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

and then there's Luigi Colani...

https://www.google.co.za/search?q=luigi+colani&safe=active&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NjH9Uu-FO9GAhQfOhIG4Dg&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=949#q=luigi+colani+designs&safe=active&tbm=isch

:)

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From: FractRacer
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 14 Feb 2014 08:31:01
Message: <52fe1a95$1@news.povray.org>
Le 13/02/2014 21:40, Nekar Xenos a écrit :
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 01:42:20 +0200, FractRacer <lg.### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>
>> Le 11/02/2014 20:33, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>>>
>>> I have literally *no idea* how it is physically possible to draw curves
>>> like this. Even using a computer, I cannot begin to imagine how you
>>> would describe such intricate curves. I am baffled as to how anybody
>>> manages to draw these.
>>>
>> Try "durer knots" in your google search, Albrecht Dürer was a graphist
>> living in 1500, he made some wonderfull curves and knots.
>>
>>
> I know Da Vinci was also into complicated knots, but I can't seem to
> find it on the net. This one is "after Da Vinci"
>
http://arthistory.about.com/od/from_exhibitions/ig/Leonardo-in-Milan/32-After-Leonardo-da-Vinci-Knot-Pattern-ca-1495.htm
>
>
>

I did'nt know this work of Leonard De Vinci, the pictures are very similar.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Visual arts
Date: 15 Feb 2014 04:52:49
Message: <52ff38f1$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/02/2014 12:51 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:33:02 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Catalonian, therefore by definition nice people.
>
> Just don't try to use Spanish when you talk to them - most will pretend
> not to understand you. :)
>

A lot of Welsh are the same. :-(


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