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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why the evil is evel? Don't ask - don't tell!
Date: 1 Jan 2014 16:36:23
Message: <52c48a57@news.povray.org>
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On 01/01/2014 8:59 PM, andrel wrote:
> Bikes are not in the holy book.
You have lost all creditability, now.
I know that you are a Nederlander and bikes rate high in the lowlands.
Phalse Profit! ;-)
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Regards
Stephen
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On 01/01/2014 9:36 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 01/01/2014 8:59 PM, andrel wrote:
>> Bikes are not in the holy book.
>
> You have lost all creditability, now.
P.S. Bike sheds have a sacred place in the heart of every British
schoolboy. (Of a certain type.)
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Regards
Stephen
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Why the evil is evel? Don't ask - don't tell!
Date: 2 Jan 2014 01:19:44
Message: <52c50500@news.povray.org>
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On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 20:01:14 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 01/01/2014 7:32 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 13:28:46 +0200, Nekar Xenos wrote:
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>>> "Killing in God's Name" is wrong if God didn't tell you to do it.
>>
>> And how exactly do you prove that God told you to do it?
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> If you can't hear the voices. Then you must be evil.
> Die! Oh! son of Satan. ;-)
:)
Except, of course, in the US if you hear voices, you tend to be thought
of as being nuts.
Jim
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Why the evil is evel? Don't ask - don't tell!
Date: 2 Jan 2014 01:20:22
Message: <52c50526@news.povray.org>
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On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 20:06:58 +0000, Doctor John wrote:
> On 01/01/14 19:32, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 13:28:46 +0200, Nekar Xenos wrote:
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>>> "Killing in God's Name" is wrong if God didn't tell you to do it.
>>
>> And how exactly do you prove that God told you to do it?
>>
>> Jim
>>
> <Deliberately begs the question>
> It says so in our Holy Book.
> The Holy Book is the Word of God.
> Therefore God told us to do it.
>
> Also... God exists because our Holy Book says so.
> Since the Holy Book is the Word of God, it cannot be wrong
Now we need a non-tautological way of answering the question. The legal
system here in the US tends to frown on tautology as justification.
Jim
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Why the evil is evel? Don't ask - don't tell!
Date: 2 Jan 2014 01:21:11
Message: <52c50557@news.povray.org>
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On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:39:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 01/01/2014 9:36 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 01/01/2014 8:59 PM, andrel wrote:
>>> Bikes are not in the holy book.
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>> You have lost all creditability, now.
>
> P.S. Bike sheds have a sacred place in the heart of every British
> schoolboy. (Of a certain type.)
Orange. That's what colour it should be. ;)
Jim
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On 02/01/2014 6:19 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Except, of course, in the US if you hear voices, you tend to be thought
> of as being nuts.
That's why it, generally, doesn't come out until the trial. :-)
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Stephen
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why the evil is evel? Don't ask - don't tell!
Date: 2 Jan 2014 02:11:05
Message: <52c51109@news.povray.org>
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On 02/01/2014 6:21 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:39:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 01/01/2014 9:36 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 01/01/2014 8:59 PM, andrel wrote:
>>>> Bikes are not in the holy book.
>>>
>>> You have lost all creditability, now.
>>
>> P.S. Bike sheds have a sacred place in the heart of every British
>> schoolboy. (Of a certain type.)
>
> Orange. That's what colour it should be. ;)
>
Now, there is a colour, you could march to.
(If you are a bigot.) :-(
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Stephen
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Patrick Elliott <kag### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> Uh.. Wrong, wrong, wrong..
Fine. Women should take no precautions *at all* to try to lower the risks.
Why bother? They are going to get raped anyway.
I'm almost tempted to call you a nasty name.
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- Warp
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Why the evil is evel? Don't ask - don't tell!
Date: 2 Jan 2014 05:38:51
Message: <52c541bb@news.povray.org>
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John VanSickle <evi### [at] kosherhotmailcom> wrote:
> Well as a Christian I can tell you that the reason that I do not kill
> witches or homosexuals or Sabbath-breakers is not because I have let the
> commandments be trumped, but rather because those commandments were not
> given to me in he first place.
I know that excuse, but it misses the point.
It doesn't matter if God gave those commandments to everybody or only
to the hebrews, and it doesn't matter if the judiciary system to enact
those commandments is nowadays in place or not. The point is that God
did give those commandments, which means that God thinks they are good
and just. And if you are completely honest (as you should be, if you
are a Christian), then you would agree that you do *not* think those
commandments are good and just. The very fact that you would never
stone someone to death in any circumstance (much less for such a
"heinous" crime as breaking the sabbath or being rude to your parents)
shows that you do not think it's just punishment. If you are honest
to yourself, you will agree with this.
In other words, you disagree with your God.
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- Warp
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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Why the evil is evel? Don't ask - don't tell!
Date: 2 Jan 2014 06:27:43
Message: <op.w814sct7ufxv4h@xena>
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On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:38:51 +0200, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] kosherhotmailcom> wrote:
>> Well as a Christian I can tell you that the reason that I do not kill
>> witches or homosexuals or Sabbath-breakers is not because I have let the
>> commandments be trumped, but rather because those commandments were not
>> given to me in he first place.
>
> I know that excuse, but it misses the point.
>
> It doesn't matter if God gave those commandments to everybody or only
> to the hebrews, and it doesn't matter if the judiciary system to enact
> those commandments is nowadays in place or not. The point is that God
> did give those commandments, which means that God thinks they are good
> and just. And if you are completely honest (as you should be, if you
> are a Christian), then you would agree that you do *not* think those
> commandments are good and just. The very fact that you would never
> stone someone to death in any circumstance (much less for such a
> "heinous" crime as breaking the sabbath or being rude to your parents)
> shows that you do not think it's just punishment. If you are honest
> to yourself, you will agree with this.
>
> In other words, you disagree with your God.
>
Sin is sin and God hates sin but He loves us. Sin deserves death. That is
why Jesus died for our sins in our place - because we cannot do it
correctly out of ourselves. When we are one with Jesus, we do His will.
Jesus let the woman that was caught in idolatry free, yet with the words
"Sin no more".
If we love sin we won't want Jesus. Heaven is open to everyone. Heaven
belongs to Jesus and if you don't want to go to Jesus, you don't have to.
--
-Nekar Xenos-
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