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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Watching the watcher
Date: 20 Oct 2013 16:51:32
Message: <52644254$1@news.povray.org>
http://what-if.xkcd.com/63/

Somewhere, Darren is probably looking down on all this from above and 
quietly chuckling to himself about how wrong we all are...


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 21 Oct 2013 08:55:50
Message: <52652456$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2013-10-20 16:51, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
> http://what-if.xkcd.com/63/
>
> Somewhere, Darren is probably looking down on all this from above and
> quietly chuckling to himself about how wrong we all are...

This reminds me of the X-Files episode where Mulder gets inside Area 51 
as a pizza delivery guy.

(Although I may be mixing the Area 51 X-Files episode, with a tv ad...)

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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 21 Oct 2013 09:26:03
Message: <52652b6b$1@news.povray.org>
On 20/10/13 21:51, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> http://what-if.xkcd.com/63/
> 
> Somewhere, Darren is probably looking down on all this from above and
> quietly chuckling to himself about how wrong we all are...

Pizza delivery guys, yes. But taxi-drivers, no. At least, not here in
London. Ask a black-cab driver and he'll probably answer:
"I 'ad that Matt Brittin [MD Google UK] in my cab last week. 	...so what
do you think of Spurs chances this season? ....
Coalition Government!!? Bloody politicians. Shoot the lot of 'em, I
would....
And when are we gonna get a fine day? .....
[etc etc, until]
There you go mate, that'll be £25.00 exactly."

John
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 21 Oct 2013 13:32:00
Message: <52656510$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:55:08 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:

> Le 2013-10-20 16:51, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>> http://what-if.xkcd.com/63/
>>
>> Somewhere, Darren is probably looking down on all this from above and
>> quietly chuckling to himself about how wrong we all are...
> 
> This reminds me of the X-Files episode where Mulder gets inside Area 51
> as a pizza delivery guy.
> 
> (Although I may be mixing the Area 51 X-Files episode, with a tv ad...)

You might be mixing the Area 51 episode with "Bad Blood" - the episode 
with the vampires.

Jim


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 21 Oct 2013 23:25:02
Message: <op.w5b6fyw5ufxv4h@xena>
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:32:00 +0200, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>  

wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:55:08 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:
>
>> Le 2013-10-20 16:51, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>>> http://what-if.xkcd.com/63/
>>>
>>> Somewhere, Darren is probably looking down on all this from above an
d
>>> quietly chuckling to himself about how wrong we all are...
>>
>> This reminds me of the X-Files episode where Mulder gets inside Area 
51
>> as a pizza delivery guy.
>>
>> (Although I may be mixing the Area 51 X-Files episode, with a tv ad..
.)
>
> You might be mixing the Area 51 episode with "Bad Blood" - the episode

> with the vampires.
>
> Jim

I remember an episode were Mulder switched bodies with someone who works
  

at Area 51. No Pizza delivery in there from what I can remember.

-- 

-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 21 Oct 2013 23:54:36
Message: <5265f6fc$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 05:25:00 +0200, Nekar Xenos wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:32:00 +0200, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:55:08 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2013-10-20 16:51, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>>>> http://what-if.xkcd.com/63/
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere, Darren is probably looking down on all this from above and
>>>> quietly chuckling to himself about how wrong we all are...
>>>
>>> This reminds me of the X-Files episode where Mulder gets inside Area
>>> 51 as a pizza delivery guy.
>>>
>>> (Although I may be mixing the Area 51 X-Files episode, with a tv
>>> ad...)
>>
>> You might be mixing the Area 51 episode with "Bad Blood" - the episode
>> with the vampires.
>>
>> Jim
> 
> I remember an episode were Mulder switched bodies with someone who works
> at Area 51. No Pizza delivery in there from what I can remember.

Yeah, the actor who played the character he switched places with was 
Michael McKean IIRC.

"Bad Blood", though, involved a pizza delivery guy who was a vampire.  
His name, IIRC, was "Ronnie" (but I don't recall the actor's name and am 
too lazy to pull up IMDB and look).

Jim


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 23 Oct 2013 09:46:56
Message: <5267d350$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2013-10-21 23:25, Nekar Xenos a écrit :
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:32:00 +0200, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:55:08 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2013-10-20 16:51, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>>>> http://what-if.xkcd.com/63/
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere, Darren is probably looking down on all this from above and
>>>> quietly chuckling to himself about how wrong we all are...
>>>
>>> This reminds me of the X-Files episode where Mulder gets inside Area 51
>>> as a pizza delivery guy.
>>>
>>> (Although I may be mixing the Area 51 X-Files episode, with a tv ad...)
>>
>> You might be mixing the Area 51 episode with "Bad Blood" - the episode
>> with the vampires.
>>
>> Jim
>
> I remember an episode were Mulder switched bodies with someone who works
> at Area 51. No Pizza delivery in there from what I can remember.
>

Sorry about the confusion guys, the pizza delivery guy getting inside 
area 51 was an ad.  It's been a while.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 23 Oct 2013 17:08:31
Message: <52683acf@news.povray.org>
Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:
> Sorry about the confusion guys, the pizza delivery guy getting inside 
> area 51 was an ad.  It's been a while.

Mmm... pizza...

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 24 Oct 2013 06:12:57
Message: <5268f2a9@news.povray.org>
On 23/10/13 22:08, Warp wrote:
> Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:
>> Sorry about the confusion guys, the pizza delivery guy getting inside 
>> area 51 was an ad.  It's been a while.
> 
> Mmm... pizza...
> 

(((8(|)

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You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 24 Oct 2013 13:29:54
Message: <52695912$1@news.povray.org>
On 23/10/2013 10:08 PM, Warp wrote:
> Mmm... pizza...

Mine's in the oven now. Unfortunately, it's a Dr Otker pizza.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 24 Oct 2013 16:44:59
Message: <526986cb$1@news.povray.org>
On 24/10/13 18:30, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 23/10/2013 10:08 PM, Warp wrote:
>> Mmm... pizza...
> 
> Mine's in the oven now. Unfortunately, it's a Dr Otker pizza.

But I bet it tasted better just because you cooked it in your oven in
your own home.

John
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 25 Oct 2013 03:00:00
Message: <web.526a1603ea16501b7d8c6e9c0@news.povray.org>
Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On 24/10/13 18:30, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> > On 23/10/2013 10:08 PM, Warp wrote:
> >> Mmm... pizza...
> >
> > Mine's in the oven now. Unfortunately, it's a Dr Otker pizza.
>
> But I bet it tasted better just because you cooked it in your oven in
> your own home.
>

I think that buying a plain margherita then cooking it with your own toppings,
is the way to go.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 25 Oct 2013 07:21:09
Message: <526a5425$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/10/13 07:56, Stephen wrote:
> Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> On 24/10/13 18:30, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2013 10:08 PM, Warp wrote:
>>>> Mmm... pizza...
>>>
>>> Mine's in the oven now. Unfortunately, it's a Dr Otker pizza.
>>
>> But I bet it tasted better just because you cooked it in your oven in
>> your own home.
>>
> 
> I think that buying a plain margherita then cooking it with your own toppings,
> is the way to go.
> 
> 
I agree absolutely, but give the man a chance. He's had twenty-odd years
of being cooked at^H^Hfor. He has to start somewhere.

John
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 25 Oct 2013 07:45:01
Message: <web.526a58adea16501b7d8c6e9c0@news.povray.org>
Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On 25/10/13 07:56, Stephen wrote:
> > I think that buying a plain margherita then cooking it with your own toppings,
> > is the way to go.
> >
> >
> I agree absolutely, but give the man a chance. He's had twenty-odd years
> of being cooked at^H^Hfor. He has to start somewhere.
>
> John
> --
> Protect the Earth
> Save it from wordy signatures. ;-)
>

Of course, of course. But now it is a possibility, in the back of the mind.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 25 Oct 2013 07:58:22
Message: <526a5cde$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/10/13 12:40, Stephen wrote:
>> --
>> Protect the Earth
>> Save it from wordy signatures. ;-)
>>

Oi! Do that one more time ... Na! Sod the warning! Outside now! (If I'm
not there in 5 minutes, start without me)

John
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From: scott
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 25 Oct 2013 10:53:39
Message: <526a85f3@news.povray.org>
>>> Mine's in the oven now. Unfortunately, it's a Dr Otker pizza.
>>
>> But I bet it tasted better just because you cooked it in your oven in
>> your own home.
>
> I think that buying a plain margherita then cooking it with your own toppings,
> is the way to go.

Start with a plain base, then you can use BBQ sauce instead of that 
tomato and oregano stuff they use :-)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 25 Oct 2013 19:15:33
Message: <526afb95@news.povray.org>
Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> But I bet it tasted better just because you cooked it in your oven in
> your own home.

Personally, I absolutely adore sushi, and make it from time to time.
(A friend of mine taught me how to.)

A couple of weeks ago I went to an actual sushi restaurant. A really
nice one. Quite expensive. I wanted to try sushis made by pros. I ordered
a plate with 8 different kinds of sushi.

I was disappointed. The majority were very bland and lacked the richness
of the kind of sushi that my friend and I make. A couple of variants were
a little better, but not much.

Of course there are several hundreds of kinds of sushi, and millions of
different sushi restaurants, and many make sushi that would put my
home-made sushi to shame, but in this particular case, it was quite
disappointing. Home-made clearly beat expensive restaurant sushi.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 04:57:25
Message: <526b83f5$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/10/2013 12:58 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 25/10/13 12:40, Stephen wrote:
>>> >>--
>>> >>Protect the Earth
>>> >>Save it from wordy signatures.;-)
>>> >>
> Oi! Do that one more time ... Na! Sod the warning! Outside now! (If I'm
> not there in 5 minutes, start without me)
>

The bike shed?
I know your type. ;-)

> -- Protect the Earth

> You hold it in trust for your children

Tee hee, I'm working in Belgium and they are touchy about that sort of 
thing. :-P

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 06:23:06
Message: <526b980a@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2013 12:15 AM, Warp wrote:
> Of course there are several hundreds of kinds of sushi, and millions of
> different sushi restaurants, and many make sushi that would put my
> home-made sushi to shame, but in this particular case, it was quite
> disappointing. Home-made clearly beat expensive restaurant sushi.

Do not mistake the price tag for an accurate measure of quality. ;-)

As you all know, some while ago I started baking cakes, for no 
particular reason. I was quite surprised at how *good* they taste, 
considering I didn't do anything particularly special. If you buy a 
sponge cake from the shops, it is light and fluffy, but basically tastes 
of exactly _nothing_. Whereas the cake I baked was particularly moist, 
and had quite a lot of flavour for a plain sponge cake...

Come to think of it, I haven't baked anything for months. I have a 
fan-assisted oven now - supposedly the best kind for baking. I should 
bake something, right now!


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 07:15:44
Message: <526ba460$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/13 11:23, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Come to think of it, I haven't baked anything for months. I have a
> fan-assisted oven now - supposedly the best kind for baking. I should
> bake something, right now!

Watch the timimg, tho'. Fan-assisted ovens tend to cook faster than
plain vanilla types.
Are we likely to see you on The Great British Bake-off soon? ;-)

John
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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 07:23:27
Message: <526ba62f$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2013 12:16 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> Are we likely to see you on The Great British Bake-off soon? ;-)

People keep asking me that. I'm not sure just being able to bake a 
Victoria sponge qualifies me...


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 09:11:12
Message: <526bbf70$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2013 11:23 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Come to think of it, I haven't baked anything for months. I have a
> fan-assisted oven now - supposedly the best kind for baking. I should
> bake something, right now!

I just baked a sponge.

6 eggs: £1.40
1 Kg white self-raising flour: £1.00
1 Kg castor sugar: £1.20
250g butter: £0.75
Realising that you don't actually own a wooden spoon: priceless? :-/


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 10:23:51
Message: <526bd077@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/13 14:11, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 26/10/2013 11:23 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Come to think of it, I haven't baked anything for months. I have a
>> fan-assisted oven now - supposedly the best kind for baking. I should
>> bake something, right now!
> 
> I just baked a sponge.
> 
> 6 eggs: £1.40
> 1 Kg white self-raising flour: £1.00
> 1 Kg castor sugar: £1.20
> 250g butter: £0.75
> Realising that you don't actually own a wooden spoon: priceless? :-/

Excellent. :-D What did you use instead?

John
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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 10:41:49
Message: <526bd4ad$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2013 03:24 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> Realising that you don't actually own a wooden spoon: priceless? :-/
>
> Excellent. :-D What did you use instead?

Well, a plastic serving ladle. But you try creaming butter with that... 
It bends as soon as you try to apply any force!

My wrist hurts. :-S


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 10:43:02
Message: <526bd4f6@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2013 02:11 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> I just baked a sponge.

Not my best ever. But hey, hopefully it'll taste OK...


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 10:44:46
Message: <526bd55e$1@news.povray.org>
Le 26/10/2013 15:11, Orchid Win7 v1 nous fit lire :
> On 26/10/2013 11:23 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Come to think of it, I haven't baked anything for months. I have a
>> fan-assisted oven now - supposedly the best kind for baking. I should
>> bake something, right now!
> 
> I just baked a sponge.
> 
> 6 eggs: £1.40
> 1 Kg white self-raising flour: £1.00
> 1 Kg castor sugar: £1.20
> 250g butter: £0.75
> Realising that you don't actually own a wooden spoon: priceless? :-/

so, metal or nylon for you ?


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 11:34:45
Message: <526be115$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/13 15:43, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 26/10/2013 02:11 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> I just baked a sponge.
> 
> Not my best ever. But hey, hopefully it'll taste OK...
> 
Looks good enough to eat :-D
Damn it, now I'm hungry.

John
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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 11:59:08
Message: <526be6cc$1@news.povray.org>
>> Realising that you don't actually own a wooden spoon: priceless? :-/
>
> so, metal or nylon for you ?

I've got metal dining spoons - but they're very thin and flimsy. I've 
already bent one of the teaspoons trying to squash a teabag. So that 
won't work. Instead, I used a plastic serving spoon - which also bent, 
but at least it'll bend back again...


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 11:59:28
Message: <526be6e0$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2013 04:35 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 26/10/13 15:43, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> On 26/10/2013 02:11 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> I just baked a sponge.
>>
>> Not my best ever. But hey, hopefully it'll taste OK...
>>
> Looks good enough to eat :-D
> Damn it, now I'm hungry.

Well, you know where the kitchen is. ;-)


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 13:24:50
Message: <526bfae2$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2013 03:43 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 26/10/2013 02:11 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> I just baked a sponge.
>
> Not my best ever. But hey, hopefully it'll taste OK...

Hmm, this sponge is disappointingly dry. Maybe I left it to cool too long...


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 17:05:43
Message: <526c2ea7@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/13 16:59, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 26/10/2013 04:35 PM, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 26/10/13 15:43, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> On 26/10/2013 02:11 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>>> I just baked a sponge.
>>>
>>> Not my best ever. But hey, hopefully it'll taste OK...
>>>
>> Looks good enough to eat :-D
>> Damn it, now I'm hungry.
> 
> Well, you know where the kitchen is. ;-)

I am, as ever, in awe of those that can bake. Egg, sugar and flour
recipes seem to require a lightness of touch that I don't possess.
The even browning of the cake is beautiful <Bows to the master>.

Possible solution to dryness: More butter?

John
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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 26 Oct 2013 17:16:03
Message: <526c3113$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2013 10:06 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> I am, as ever, in awe of those that can bake. Egg, sugar and flour
> recipes seem to require a lightness of touch that I don't possess.
> The even browning of the cake is beautiful<Bows to the master>.

Nah, just mix an equal quantity of butter, sugar and flour. Add enough 
egg to get approximately the right wetness. Bake.

That's really all I did. Admittedly, figuring out "the right wetness" is 
tricky... But as recipes go, it's pretty simple to memorise. ;-)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 29 Oct 2013 04:13:56
Message: <526f6e44$1@news.povray.org>
> Personally, I absolutely adore sushi, and make it from time to time.
> (A friend of mine taught me how to.)

Yes it's good fun isn't it, and you can put in there exactly what you like.

> A couple of weeks ago I went to an actual sushi restaurant. A really
> nice one. Quite expensive. I wanted to try sushis made by pros. I ordered
> a plate with 8 different kinds of sushi.

You should visit Japan :-) The sushi is 10x cheaper and 10x better than 
anything I've bought in Europe.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 29 Oct 2013 04:27:02
Message: <526f7156$1@news.povray.org>
> Nah, just mix an equal quantity of butter, sugar and flour. Add enough
> egg to get approximately the right wetness. Bake.
>
> That's really all I did. Admittedly, figuring out "the right wetness" is
> tricky... But as recipes go, it's pretty simple to memorise. ;-)

I had a good recipe for chocolate cake somewhere, that involved pouring 
in half a pint of boiling water at the end (just before putting it in 
the oven). The mixture was *very* wet but came out really good the 2nd 
time. The 1st time I severely underestimated how much it would rise and 
after about 10 minutes it just started pouring chocolate mix all over 
the bottom of the oven :-)

Oat cookies are also really easy to make, melt butter and syrup in a 
pan, put flour, oats and sugar in another bowl, then mix all together 
and form into balls on a baking sheet. In under 30 mins you can have 
some nice gooey warm cookies. I put in a few spoons of ginger powder too.


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 29 Oct 2013 04:53:34
Message: <526f778e$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/10/2013 08:27 AM, scott wrote:
>> Nah, just mix an equal quantity of butter, sugar and flour. Add enough
>> egg to get approximately the right wetness. Bake.
>>
>> That's really all I did. Admittedly, figuring out "the right wetness" is
>> tricky... But as recipes go, it's pretty simple to memorise. ;-)
>
> I had a good recipe for chocolate cake somewhere, that involved pouring
> in half a pint of boiling water at the end (just before putting it in
> the oven). The mixture was *very* wet but came out really good the 2nd
> time. The 1st time I severely underestimated how much it would rise and
> after about 10 minutes it just started pouring chocolate mix all over
> the bottom of the oven :-)
>
> Oat cookies are also really easy to make, melt butter and syrup in a
> pan, put flour, oats and sugar in another bowl, then mix all together
> and form into balls on a baking sheet. In under 30 mins you can have
> some nice gooey warm cookies. I put in a few spoons of ginger powder too.

Other than Victoria sponge, the only other thing I've successfully made 
is shortbread - and I can't remember the recipe off the top of my head.

I tried many, many times to make fudge - I LOVE FUDGE! - but it just 
doesn't work. :-(


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 29 Oct 2013 05:15:22
Message: <526f7caa$1@news.povray.org>
> I tried many, many times to make fudge - I LOVE FUDGE! - but it just
> doesn't work. :-(

I've never tried, but AIUI the critical part with fudge (and most 
sugar-based stuff) is to get the mixture to exactly the right 
temperature and no higher. If you heat it just 2 or 3°C hotter you get 
something different.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 29 Oct 2013 11:07:01
Message: <526fcf15@news.povray.org>
On 29/10/13 08:53, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> 
> Other than Victoria sponge, the only other thing I've successfully made
> is shortbread - and I can't remember the recipe off the top of my head.
> 
> I tried many, many times to make fudge - I LOVE FUDGE! - but it just
> doesn't work. :-(

My daughter makes an amazing beetroot and chocolate cake. She hasn't
given me the recipe tho'. When I finally get it, I'll post it here.

John
-- 
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You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 29 Oct 2013 12:30:00
Message: <web.526fe22aea16501b7d8c6e9c0@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

> I tried many, many times to make fudge - I LOVE FUDGE! - but it just
> doesn't work. :-(

Two weekends ago I made about two pounds of Scottish Tablet. It is a bit like
fudge but not as bitter. ;-)


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 29 Oct 2013 14:34:53
Message: <526fffcd$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/10/2013 09:15 AM, scott wrote:
>> I tried many, many times to make fudge - I LOVE FUDGE! - but it just
>> doesn't work. :-(
>
> I've never tried, but AIUI the critical part with fudge (and most
> sugar-based stuff) is to get the mixture to exactly the right
> temperature and no higher. If you heat it just 2 or 3°C hotter you get
> something different.

Hence the sugar thermometer, which exists for this exact reason. I still 
can't get it to work though...


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 29 Oct 2013 18:27:19
Message: <52703647@news.povray.org>
scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> You should visit Japan :-) The sushi is 10x cheaper and 10x better than 
> anything I've bought in Europe.

How much sushi would I have to eat before it becomes cheaper to travel
to Japan from Finland in order to eat sushi?-)

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 30 Oct 2013 04:00:02
Message: <web.5270bc19ea16501b7d8c6e9c0@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 29/10/2013 09:15 AM, scott wrote:
> >> I tried many, many times to make fudge - I LOVE FUDGE! - but it just
> >> doesn't work. :-(
> >
> > I've never tried, but AIUI the critical part with fudge (and most
> > sugar-based stuff) is to get the mixture to exactly the right
> > temperature and no higher. If you heat it just 2 or 3°C hotter you get
> > something different.
>
> Hence the sugar thermometer, which exists for this exact reason. I still
> can't get it to work though...

I don’t think that the temperature is that critical. People have been making
fudge at home for a long time. The water drop test is adequate.

A possible cause is that when the recipe says beat the fudge, it means, set
about it with a will and a wooden spoon, :-) until it is the right consistency.
You need to use quite a bit of elbow grease. (Be careful not to drip into your
fudge. ;-) )
Another thing, it is generally better on the second day.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 3 Nov 2013 14:49:40
Message: <5276a8d4$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/10/13 22:27, Warp wrote:
> scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
>> You should visit Japan :-) The sushi is 10x cheaper and 10x better than 
>> anything I've bought in Europe.
> 
> How much sushi would I have to eat before it becomes cheaper to travel
> to Japan from Finland in order to eat sushi?-)
> 
Quite a lot. But think how much you could learn about the culture.

John
-- 
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Watching the watcher
Date: 4 Nov 2013 01:50:06
Message: <5277439e@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:50:08 +0000, Doctor John wrote:

> On 29/10/13 22:27, Warp wrote:
>> scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
>>> You should visit Japan :-) The sushi is 10x cheaper and 10x better
>>> than anything I've bought in Europe.
>> 
>> How much sushi would I have to eat before it becomes cheaper to travel
>> to Japan from Finland in order to eat sushi?-)
>> 
> Quite a lot. But think how much you could learn about the culture.

And about the frequent flier miles you'd rack up. :)

Jim


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